Problem With Buzzing Base String

ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
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4 years ago
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Robin Thompson:

I'm happy your bass string buzz was remedied!  

Thank you, Robin!  I appreciate it!

 

 

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
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4 years ago
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I'm happy your bass string buzz was remedied!  

ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
@zeeaviatrix
4 years ago
13 posts

 was looking at all the different topics and ran across this topic I started 9 months ago.  Sorry, folks, I neglected to tell you the end of the story.  I finally decided to send my dulcimer back to McSpadden which they repaired in 3 days and sent it back expedited shipping at no cost to me.  Totally awesome!  The problem was, as I had suspected, the first fret which needed some adjustment.  The vibrating string was hitting the fret causing the buzzing sound and by lowering the fret just a hair, the problem was terminated.  Happy ending, my dulcimer sounds wonderful once again!

ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
@zeeaviatrix
5 years ago
13 posts

 

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That can sometimes be attributed to a string that is not tight enough for the note it's being tuned to. With a slightly too slack string, your finger pushes the string right down to the wood much more easily, bending/pulling it to sound a bit sharp.  Also a slightly slack string will much more likely hit the frets when it's vibrating.  Again, for both these issues, I suggest you put on a wound bass string that is not so thin as your current .022.    Try a .024 wound.

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I see.  I will definitely try that.  Hope it works and will let you know! 

 

Strumelia
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5 years ago
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ZeeAviatrix:

@ Kusani

Thanks, what's weird is that the string is in tune when played open, but sharpens when you use the frets.  That doesn't make sense to me.

That can sometimes be attributed to a string that is not tight enough for the note it's being tuned to. With a slightly too slack string, your finger pushes the string right down to the wood much more easily, bending/pulling it to sound a bit sharp.  Also a slightly slack string will much more likely hit the frets when it's vibrating.  Again, for both these issues, I suggest you put on a wound bass string that is not so thin as your current .022.    Try a .024 wound.




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ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
@zeeaviatrix
5 years ago
13 posts

@ Kusani

Thanks, what's weird is that the string is in tune when played open, but sharpens when you use the frets.  That doesn't make sense to me.

ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
@zeeaviatrix
5 years ago
13 posts

[quote="Strumelia"]

"I suggest you try a new bass string, and try one that is just one size thicker-  like a wound .23 or .24 instead of your .22 . That will increase the tension a bit so it won't buzz against any frets while vibrating. 
Also, the windings on an old string may have flattened out a bit at the nut or bridge area, slowly lowering the string by just enough to start creating buzzes.... a new string would solve that as well.  

Wound bass strings tend to be the first string to age and start sounding 'dead' anyway- so it's a good thing to replace the wound thick string on your instrument if it's getting old."

Thank you, Strumelia!  I will try that as well.  The strings are new since last August but I really don't know how long strings are supposed to last.  I play every day for a good 30-60 minutes, so they're getting a pretty good workout.

 

ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
@zeeaviatrix
5 years ago
13 posts

[quote="Skip"]

I suggest  you check the string height first. Try sliding a dime under the strings right next to the 1st fret. It will probably drag or not fit if the slot in the nut has worn a bit. Call the Dulcimer Shop for advice and order another nut also. The bridge should also be checked by sliding a nickel on top of the 7th fret. 

 

Thank you, Skip!  The nickel fit, the dime did not.  I definitely think the strings are too close to the 1st fret and some adjustment will need to be made.  The string is definitely buzzing off the 1st fret.  Thanks for the tip!

 

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
5 years ago
2,247 posts

I suggest you try a new bass string, and try one that is just one size thicker-  like a wound .23 or .24 instead of your .22 . That will increase the tension a bit so it won't buzz against any frets while vibrating. 
Also, the windings on an old string may have flattened out a bit at the nut or bridge area, slowly lowering the string by just enough to start creating buzzes.... a new string would solve that as well.  

Wound bass strings tend to be the first string to age and start sounding 'dead' anyway- so it's a good thing to replace the wound thick string on your instrument if it's getting old.




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Skip
Skip
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5 years ago
359 posts

I suggest  you check the string height first. Try sliding a dime under the strings right next to the 1st fret. It will probably drag or not fit if the slot in the nut has worn a bit. Call the Dulcimer Shop for advice and order another nut also. The bridge should also be checked by sliding a nickel on top of the 7th fret. 

The toothpick effectively shortens the VSL.


updated by @skip: 05/16/19 09:10:11PM
Kusani
Kusani
@kusani
5 years ago
134 posts

By slightly raising the string you have increased the tension ever so slightly which could cause it to be 'slightly' sharp down the entire fretboard. Retune that one string and see what happens. 

ZeeAviatrix
ZeeAviatrix
@zeeaviatrix
5 years ago
13 posts

Hello,

I bought a custom McSpadden dulcimer about one year ago, after deciding to learn how to play, and I have really enjoyed it.  It has a wonderful, mellow sound and has been a pleasure to play … until now.  Within the last few days, my base string has started buzzing in an annoying way.  It looks to me like the vibrating string is hitting the first fret.  (It might be my imagination but I believe the melody string is starting to sympathetically buzz as well, as of today.)

I have read every Forum Discussion on buzzing strings on this site.  Someone suggested using a toothpick to raise the string slightly.  Well, when I did that, the buzzing stopped but every note down the string was off key (slightly sharp), which doesn't make a lot of sense to me since the adjustment is right up to the nut. The base string is original and is a wrapped .22 string.  I read where someone said a newer string might buzz more than an older string in one of the forums, so I don't think the age of the string is a factor.

I play my dulcimer every single day and I am wondering if I have already worn something out!  Is it possible for a nut or the grooves in the nut to deepen?  I feel nervous about having someone work on it because I am wondering how they are going to fix it without messing it up.  

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated since I am fairly new to the dulcimer world.

Many thanks!