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11/04/09 02:58:31PM
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David Beede said:
Foggy - Always glad to talk gourd stuff. I keep meaning to put some building stuff on line but haven't gotten to it. There is a little piece on David Hyatt's site about how I reheaded a banjo for Mike Seeger with a tensioning system I invented that has no metal in it. Here 'tis:
http://www.dhyatt.com/craft_how_to_skin_Beede.html

Foggers wrote:
Hi David - that is so lovely! Have seen you on YT with the gourd banjos, and am really interested in gourd "technology" - will PM you!
Hi David; that is a really interesting way to tension the head on a gourd - though I guess that Delrin is not exactly a traditional material!!My OH is an amateur luthier having made just 2 MDs after years of tinkering with electric guitars mainly. He now has an idea for a percussion instrument that would need a gourd as the sound box, and it seems impossible to source properly dried gourds here in the UK (weather just too damp I think!)
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11/02/09 09:16:04PM
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David Beede said:
Glad to see some banjo action 'round here.
I took up ol' time banjo years ago, but then got away from it in favor of dulcimers. I've been building and playing gourd banjos for about five years now and have grown very fond of the mellow round sound they have. Some of mine I string heavy and tune down to D which makes them easy to play along with DAD dulcimer players. The bluesy feel from being fretless also tickles my ear. Here's a tune of mine that I taught to my wife, Julie Johnson's first grade class. They sing on it and illustrated it with some amazing art work. It's one of those "metaphor wrapped in a riddle" songs. Check it out here:
Hi David - that is so lovely! Have seen you on YT with the gourd banjos, and am really interested in gourd "technology" - will PM you!
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11/02/09 09:15:05PM
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Randy Adams said:
David I saw a vid of your 1973 box banjo over @ Cig Box Nation...nice box & sounds great! No wonder you build such beautiful instruments!...that's a long time...there's not too much good to be said about getting old...but getting good at your job is one of 'em!

So I got my new/old banjo goin'....ended up putting a piece of brass over the fingerboard to brighten up the sound of the 1st string. I recorded a couple of vids today & I would share them with you if you please?
I learned Watermelon on the Vine from a Gid Tanner & the Skillet Lickers record....great Georgia band from the 1920's!

When I got my banjo to where it was playable the 1st song it wanted to play was this tune...I couldn't think of the title....after I recorded it my son asked me "what tune is that?" & it came to me....it's Nashville Blues, a Earl Scruggs tune. I don't play it in the right style or the right key/mode but it's Nashville Blues allright! Thx for whatching!
Once again Randy - you are great! The sound of that banjo is so right for those tunes.
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10/30/09 12:18:58PM
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Randy Adams said:
Here's what I been doin the last couple days.
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My brother Rodney gave me this banjo a while back & at first I played it and liked it but...it had frets....and a long scale. So yesterday I removed the frets, sanded her down, glued a veneer on the fingerboard, cut 3.5" out of the neck made a 22.5" scale....I like to tune in A & D.....it cracks now!....& I think I got it to where I won't get slivers when I'm playin it!... : )....
I'm hoping this banjo will call to me...ya know....think of a song & know right away this is the perfect banjo to play it on.....get in the rotation so to speak.
This might be fun!
Wow Randy - and here is me too meek to tweak the tension on the head of my banjo! That is lovely work and I shall look forward to HEARING it when you post something here or on YT.
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10/30/09 12:16:29PM
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Strumelia said:
Foggers said:
Thanks Randy. It is really interesting trying out tunes on different instruments. I think certain tunes just work on a particular instrument. A song from Jean Ritchie that I have always wanted to do is "Sweet William and Lady Margaret". Of course Jean does it on MD but when I listened to it and sang it I could just "hear" an OT banjo accompaniment. That was one of the things that prompted me to go back to the banjo (as I already could play a little fingerstyle on it) and finally work on getting the frailing going!.

Foggers,
Listen to the clip of my favorite recently recorded version of "Lady Margaret"- HERE . It's played by Brad Leftwich, Alice Gerrard, and Tom Sauber. Instruments are fiddle and banjo, so it might give you some ideas for playing it on banjo.
That whole CD is well worth buying.
Thanks for the album recommendation Lisa- what a treat! I have the albums Alice Gerrard did with Hazel Dickens so this is a great addition to my collection - just downloaded it.
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10/22/09 01:15:21PM
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Thanks Randy. It is really interesting trying out tunes on different instruments. I think certain tunes just work on a particular instrument. A song from Jean Ritchie that I have always wanted to do is "Sweet William and Lady Margaret". Of course Jean does it on MD but when I listened to it and sang it I could just "hear" an OT banjo accompaniment. That was one of the things that prompted me to go back to the banjo (as I already could play a little fingerstyle on it) and finally work on getting the frailing going!.
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10/20/09 07:09:03PM
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Well I have been persevering with me frailing and an currently working on accompanying Rich my OH when he sings "Little Sadie". I will put up an MP3 when we can get through it without coughing (we are both full of germs at the mo).I have curbed my urge for a new banjo - I have tweaked the sound of my countryman banjo by loosening off the tension on the tailpiece and it is sounding a little more plunky. I am reluctant to tweak the head tension in case I go too far and can't redeem a problem. I have also worked out that the resonator comes of easily anyway as it does not have a flange. See how I sound like I know what I am talking about??? That's cos I did go to the expense of buying a book on banjo construction and maintenance so I can sound all clever now.... Actually, I like to know something about the practical side of any instrument I play- i like to know the basics and be able to tune, change strings and do minor adjustments at least.What seems funny is that it was getting my first dulcimer exactly a year ago that re-kindled my interest in the banjo I had owned for a few years too. I used to find it difficult to move between instruments; it felt like my fingers went kind of dyslexic. But now I think that the skills I pick up on one are usefully transfereable to the others- so I am becoming a better all round musician.
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10/06/09 12:02:54PM
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Strumelia said:
I'd like to see a photo of your "Countryman" banjo- maybe it's just right for clawhammer....let's see it! :)

Foggers said:
Of course I can now see that my "Countryman " banjo just aint right at all for clawhammer playing...maybe I need a new banjo from Santa??
I shall see what I can do about a pic. My other instruments are already jealous of the amount of attentions I lavish on my MDs. (We all know our instruments have feelings, don't we?) so it is about time I did pics of the others.It is a resonator banjo more suited to bluegrass. I am finding the idea of a banjo with a frailing scoop on the neck quite attractive because my fingers and thumb just seem to be catching the sides of the frets when I try to play up the neck a little for that more plunky and mellow sound. Gosh, listen to me slowly TALK MYSELF INTO A NEW BANJO !!!
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10/05/09 05:13:03PM
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THanks for the replies Lisa and Randy; here is the news...Well my laptop kind of hiccupped on the DVDs, but after threatening it with a hammer, things settled down and the disks play okay.I like Dwight's approach to the right hand rhythm. I had already made a start on the bump-ditty pattern through a book i got a couple of months ago, but when I listen to practice recordings it just sounds too "busy" somehow. Having had a weekend with Dwight's "Just Rhythm" DVD I can see that I need to stop worrying so much about the "ditty" and I am already sounding more like I want to! So that is fun indeed.Of course I can now see that my "Countryman " banjo just aint right at all for clawhammer playing...maybe I need a new banjo from Santa??
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10/02/09 09:54:19AM
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Yippeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!FInally my long awaited Dwight Diller instructional DVDs have arrived. Gonna have to put the MD down for a couple of days and spend some time frailin' instead.
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09/01/09 08:36:32AM
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razyn said:
I don't play very often, but I started a long time ago. I have a few old banjos, say 1870-1900 or so, with and without frets -- and one reproduction "minstrel" banjo, made within the past ten years (an eBay coup de foudre). I've been to the Antietam Early Banjo Gathering, twice, and really enjoy the fellowship of those guys even though many of them are certifiable (i.e., dedicated Civil War reenactors). There's a Ning group for Minstrel Banjo, and I was lurking in it about a year before Strumelia started this dulcimer one.

My best banjo is an open back S.S. Stewart "Universal Favorite" tenor (a Nashville pawn shop purchase) that Homer Ledford converted to a 5-string for me. He added his special tone ring, as well as making the new birdseye maple neck (fitted with the old inlays), in 1966. One of the earlier Ledford banjos, I guess. He didn't sign it or anything, but I have letters from him when we arranged for it. I swapped him a nice early Washburn mandolin he wanted -- didn't pay actual money for the conversion, but he costed it out at $75. (More than I had paid for his standard dulcimer, in 1963.) I also got Pete Seeger to autograph it, when he did a workshop in Nashville around 1968 -- so now I can't change the dang head. Mike Seeger also played it, not long after that -- guess I should have asked him to write on it too, but we were actually friends, so that just seemed odd.

Back in the day, about 1915-20 when Uncle Dave Macon was a wagoner and there was not yet a radio show in Nashville (the Grand Ole Opry), my paternal grandfather was one of his employers. (I just checked the Wikipedia article about Uncle Dave, and it discusses The Macon Midway Mule and Wagon Transportation Company.) So my dad and my grandmother had some anecdotes about him. I knew two of his sons, but he had died when I was about twelve -- and he had long since been a professional entertainer, rather than a wagoner. I got into folk music a few years later. I do have a banjo that Uncle Dave broke in about 1892, when he fell off a friend's porch in Lascassas. He gave it to the boy who lived there -- who got the broken neck fixed, and about 70 years later I bought it from him. And I also got some good banjo tunes from him (Elbert F. Pilkington).

Dick
Wow rayzn - I am deeply envious of your contacts with people who are heroes of mine - Pete and Mike Seeger, Homer Ledford....I have looked at some of the re-enactor/historical society banjo clips on Youtube. There are some fascinating instruments there but I am not sure I could countenance playing one with calfskin and real gut strings. And I know what you mean about the mentality of some re-enactors: I used to do meadieval re-enactment and found some of my companions to be rather in retreat from real life!!
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08/25/09 11:29:59AM
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Hi Jill - my friend has a Goldtone 5 string that is so heavy I can only hold it long enough for one song, then it just has to go! It is interesting swapping around on different instruments; I think it helps me to build my knowledge in transferring from one to another. Hope you get a lighter tenor banjo and get stuck in!
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08/11/09 01:24:32PM
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Hi Randy thanks for that link - I have checked out her other YouTube clips and there is some very handy tutorial stuff there about the basic right hand rhythm, which is exactly what I need to work on. I really like her style - there is something just so steady and light-hearted about her playing. Have added her to my YT subscriptions.
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08/10/09 08:30:51PM
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Yes I was impressed when I checked out the YouTube clips; and his basic instructional DVD is called "Rhythm". I think it is exactly where I need to start as all my instrumental skills have been more melodic/harmonic (e.g. fingerstyle guitar) so it is the rhythm that I need to work on. His teaching tyle is simple - no TAB, clear explanation and good close ups of both hands - exactly what I need! So I have placed an order.Thanks for your advice Lisa - will let you know how I get on with it!
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08/10/09 01:50:06PM
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Hi Lisa thanks for the suggestions - could not get the link to work for Pat Costello's clips but have found Dwight's website and have a had a catalogue emailed to me from Elaine Diller, so I think I shall get a DVD from them once I have checked out the clips on Youtube.Jane
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08/07/09 12:52:47PM
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Getting a 5 string banjo about 4 years ago was my entry into US folk and old time music, leading more recently to the MD.I have neglected the banjo until recent months and have set my mind to finally mastering the clawhammer technique. I don't have any teachers nearby, I have pored over the free lessons on YouTube and various books/CDs but I think I need an instructional DVD so that I can really see it in action, slow it right down, and build up really slowly (impatience is one of my vices when it comes to learning new skills!). Can anyone recommend a good one to get me started?
updated by @foggers: 02/17/19 05:56:53AM
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09/02/09 08:02:10PM
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Dulcimer or Guitar?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Ken Hulme said:
Cynthia;

Tuning:

You can tune any dulcimer, with the same normal set of strings, to DAA, DAd, CGG or CGc; maybe has high as FCC/FCf and as low as BFF/BFb. The strings are certainly flexible enough to go up and down at least one note

I don't recommend a baritone instrument for beginners because the normal baritone tuning does not allow you to play melody together with others. The tuning - AEa - uses ordinary DAd tabulature, but you're not tuned to the same key - you're in A, not D - so it doesn't sound very good if you play along with other dulcimers tuned to D. You can play guitar-style accompaniment chords along with D tuned dulcimers, but that's not the conventional dulcimer unison melody playing experience... A baritone/bass dulcimer is like a stand-up bass in a string band. It plays rhythmic "filler sound" not melodies. The dulcimer is/was originally designed as a personal melody playing instrument, not an orchestral part-playing instrument.
Yes that is exactly right. I have a baritone tuned AEa, and I wanted it expressly to accompany singing of slow ballads and more bluesy songs; it is too big in terms of hand stretch for doing fast tunes and whilst I do the odd bit of instrumental in a song, the playing of melody is not its primary purpose.
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08/26/09 07:18:44AM
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barbara kelly said:
Um Ken? Please don't, I would think that would hurt..lol Or, make it long enough to stir soup and you've solved two problems..lol
Or how about having an interchangeable fitting on your index finger - so you can attach the noter when you need it, a soup spoon for the kitchen....a screwdriver for the work shop?? The applications could be endless!!
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08/07/09 11:47:36AM
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Interesting thoughts there Carson.The appeal of the dulcimer is exactly its simplicity and that someone learning can grasp basics and produce some satisfactory sounds quite quickly. That is exactly what it was developed for; ordinary folks wanting some family and community entertainment and respite from hard working days.Nowadays the "needs" a dulcimer can meet are broader and will include those who want to progress in complexity and performance ability.Of course the age-old question is how many modifications (chromatic fret board, six strings etc) add up to make some instrument that is no longer a mountain dulcimer? Ken H calls such items "dulcimer shaped intruments" and I can see his point.So there is a tension between the traditional noter and drone style rooted with the traditions of the instrument, and the chord/melody style which starts to push the boundaries of what you can do with a dulcimer. These will appeal to different people in different ways. Reading your comments I get a sense that you are enjoying the fundamental simplicity of drone style after being steeped in music of the harmonic genre.Personally I like both approaches and will decide which suits a song or tune best when I am working on it. I was drawn to the MD through the playing of Jean Ritchie who is very much an N&D player, but she manages to play a kind of harmony to the melody she is singing, and that just grips me with its sweetness and directness.As I experiment with MD styles I am making some interesting discoveries. Some more modern songs/tunes can suddenly reveal something very different when played in N&D style.I play guitar and am learning banjo too, so now when I hear a song I want to add to my repertoire I have a range of choices to consider in terms of which instrument and which styles to incorporate.It's all good stuff as far as I am concerned!
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08/25/09 11:45:14AM
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Wow - I just checked back on this thread and it is great to read all our stories, from people who have had decades with the MD to people like me who are very recent converts. That is one of the things that is so good about this instrument- you can just find your own level with it so much more easily than with other stringed instruments. Thanks for your stories everyone.Peace and music.
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08/07/09 11:10:13AM
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Hi Luann - who did you inherit your dulcimer from?
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08/06/09 08:43:22PM
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First time I saw one was on TV in some footage of Joni Mitchell playing one. It must be a LONG time ago as I was young, married and broke and would not have even known where to start looking for one here in the UK.When I got into english traditional music and the folk revival of the 60s, I came across it on some recordings then and I was further enchanted by its sweet and lighter sound than the big old yamaha dreadnought style guitar I was generally thumping away on at that time.At that time I never saw one for real.....Then about 4 years ago when Richard bought me a 5 string banjo I started looking into US music more, not just bluegrass and gospel (though I like them and they suit my voice) but old time stuff and the traditional folk stuff. It was fascinating that the folk traditions from this side of the Atlantic had such clear descentants in the US. That was wneh I found Queen of the MD, Jean Ritchie and got some of her albums. But as I was kind of trying to get my head around the banjo at that time, Iwas not seriously thinking of another instrument too.By about 2007 I was starting to think I would like an MD and I know Richard my partner started to investigate the building of them (he has done other amateur luthiering projects). Then by chance in autumn of 2008 we found a couple of models with a vendor at a world music festival. Although his building project was well into the planning/purchasing stages by then, we decided to buy the cheaper, Romanian made one, just so that I could get started in learning. I was so taken with it I nearly spent the rest of the festival in the hotel room noodling around on it rather than actually catching any of the acts we had so wanted to see!In Jan 09 the dulcimer was finished in time for my birthday (I guess I can't call it Appalachian when it was made in Sheffield, S Yorkshire, in the north of England !!) . I have loaded some rather grainy pics of it on my profile page.SInce then we have purchased a Ledford 1972 MD via US Ebay, and Richard has completed a second, baritone MD.
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