Warren May Hourdrop Question
Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions
I have a Boss GT-1 Guitar effects processor I make my own sounds with, I am not sure what or how many effects went into the humming tone of the lullaby. I try and create the sound that would go with the music & tone I am after, for the lullaby I was after something that sounded like rocking the baby at 3:00 in the morning
If the other's amp has more then one connection you could, maybe but what ever setting they have it set to, would also be the setting you would be using.
I didn't buy a floating pickup, I made it myself. If you notice the photos of the 2 dulcimers with the pickups you can better see what I am describing. Also, notice in the lullaby iI am playing a different dulcimer, that's because you can make the floating pickup to go on top of several of your dulcimers.
Yes, a humbucking (a little taller) or Seymour Duncan (a little thinner) would work, you just need to place either pickup on 2 little post that fits on the sides of your fretboard and tall enough the strings are not bothered. I am using 2 small wooden screw blocks from the kids wooden construction set & just some mounting putty to hold it all together for my floating pickup.
I do have a dulcimer that has a flat strum hollow and the Seymour Duncan just slides under the strings - but most dulcimers don't have a flat area. That's when I came up with the idea of above the strings. these pickups are great, they read the strings not the vibration of the sound board, so you get a better tone & more responsive.
I hope this helps
Beautiful project done with love, I was so glad I was able to be a part of it. If only our Musical Hugs could reach all who need a hug -
I do like my tab (still not posted) but after many tries & not liking any of the dulcimers sounds, or picks, or tones, I created - stopping for today - but this is what I have. Trying maybe to put too much in (explosions, marching, crying, hope) and it just sounds the same. Oh well
What if we have a challenge to play - any instrument (music & chords included with tabs) - 'Peace in the Family' - Ukrainian Folk Song?
How many peaceful music hugs can we share to our groups & friends and ones in need - world wide?
What can we do as musicians? Any ideas?
(Dale had a shop in Pigeon Forge in the 1990s )
Thanks for the information - could it be Dale didn't make/sell many dulcimers, that it's hard to find out information? Or, maybe because he made them before we could google or post about the dulcimers from Pigeon Forge.
So sad, So young & So much more to give. I love the dogwood sound holes on his dulcimers & I bet many members have one of Bill Taylor's dulcimer. Now a piece of history and a piece of his love to go on.
Thoughts & prayers
Someone posted in Everything Dulcimer they were selling a dulcimer for a friend - Walnut Valley Dulcimer.
Turns out thats just the info. I have been needing to know where this dulcimer (that a someone's grandfather had) came from - kit or not. The arched fingerboard, the inset maple ball and the chamfered strum hollow.
The dulcimer is a great adventure. Always with a bit of patience we find out more about what it is we are wanting to know.
Great info. interesting story of how the name came about
I have tried out my floating removable Humbucking pickup on 4 different dulcimers so far and it works great, fitting each dulcimer.
With this video, I have moved the pickup up some and I am strumming behind it.
I set a Seymour Duncan up years ago under the strings in a flat space at strum hollow, so I could learn & use the Boss GT-1 during Harvey, the TX Hurricane. It is the only dulcimer I had with a flat space, all others had the strum hollow.
As it's set now, I am more concerned on having clear notes as I fret - it is not so high to be uncomfortable. I may sand it a bit more, I was just giving myself time to decide. Also in changing the strings I put on heavier ones (& a different brand) deciding now if I wanted to go a bit lighter on the melody.
Thanks for all your help, the Intonation was the concern at first but it is right on now.
(Now that you have conquered set-up, the next thing is you will start building dulcimers.)
I feel good about learning to care for a dulcimer but - not there yet on building. Would love to watch someone from start to finish but I'm better at drawing one then building one.
OK, careful, careful.
Sanded down - still space between nickel & string but much easier to fret, so will leave it here for now.
What would have taken someone maybe an hour or two to set up, has taken me 3 days but I learned a lot and took my time - checking with you guys as I went.
Team effort - Thanks again
Thanks Dusty, I was so busy working up at the nut - just wanted to make sure I could still sand the bridge.
Sorry, nut is sanded down, strings are on the 0 fret, it's the bridge (bottom end) I'm considering sanding.
So, I can sand the bridge to help the action. I really think the dulcimer was set up for a noter
One last question, I hope:
Nut sanded, new strings & tone is good off the 0 fret -
But the action is still a bit too high - can I sand the bridge down just a bit?
Thanks Nate, I have it sanded way down and tiny slits cut in the wooden nut for the middle string & using the nails for the melody & the bass.
All Good, thanks so much everyone
( feel comfortable sanding the nut way down)
There was another nut in the case, no slits. I sanded that one down, saving the wooden one till I would see if I could get it to work. Hey, Hey - right on from open string to the 7th YEA!!!! Off some up pass 14 but I don't go that hi & if I would - think I would just use a different dulcimer. I even sanded the top more rounded like Nate said, for better pressure on the string.
I like the wood better, since I don't have anything else white but good for now. I will need to replace the strings, they got a work out today. I'm leaving the nails in since I would have small holes to fill and I don't want to change what the builder did too much.
Thanks for all the help, I'm slow but learning much from y'all
( the intonation is correct at the nut or at the zero fret)
Intonation is correct at the zero fret, not at the nut
(the builder just shim something over the 0 fret)
What could act as a shim for over the 0 fret?
Could I maybe place something right in front of the 0 fret, creating another 0 - like the size of a tooth pic? I have sanded the nut but hesitant to sand anymore.
( found that how rounded off the side of the nut facing the headstock is can affect the pressure )
This was good info.
I Always like making a new (for me) dulcimer mine. This one had the rounded-off plug of wood where a hole had been bored into the scroll (I think Patrick's grandfather just didn't finish this part) anyway, I didn't like the look of the plug. While thinking of what I can do -
I inserted a fleur de lis
(may be a modified kit)
(rounded-off plug of wood was glued )
What would be the idea to 'bored in the scroll' only to glue a plug of wood (not something more decorative)? An idea starts but then changes needed? Maybe he was thinking of carving something but time ran out & just glued till he could get around to carving the plug.
How ever this grandfather built the dulcimer - kit or not, he did well. I'm still thinking the high action and the 3 strings close together, he had to be using a noter.
( large hole was bored in the scroll, and a rounded-off plug of wood was glued into it.)
yes, but not all the way through - Do kits do the scallop raised fretboards? Lots different from a regular kit.
(eliminated the nails)
I think the nails were there to hold the 3 strings close together the 2 melody & the middle string - maybe for playing with a noter. The Bass was where it belonged.
(the nut is installed backwards) Not sure Ken if you meant besides sanding to also turn the nut around or switch out with the bottom bridge but I did turn it around and those two things seems to take care of things.
Thanks again guys,
Still the mystery of the kit, it does seem to have the leaves of Cripple Creek and the same nut & bridge but not the head scroll (circle on the sides - different) or the raised fretboard, or wooden knobs - hmmm
(the strings should touch the 0 fret)
Would I slit the nut or sand the bottom to lower it so the strings touch the 0 fret? I'm better at sanding some off the bottom, don't that.
Yes Cedar Creek, cripple Creek but the head scroll is different & it has the raised scallop fret board.
Don't need who made the dulcimer but what kit it's may be from - and back in the 90's if that is different then kits now.
Someone's grandfather made this dulcimer sometime maybe in the 90's from a kit. Can anyone tell who's kit it's made from? The case has a McSpadden sticker on it but that doesn't necessary mean it's their kit. Also there are leaves & hummingbird more like Cedar Creek. Lots of photos and a raised scallop fret board - hope these clues help.
Why are there little nails to hold the strings in place up at nut?
The strings coming off of the nut, are they suppose to ride over the 0 fret (touch or above)? Maybe the slits were not cut into the nut - therefore high action and off a bit up at the 6+ fret. (I place a small stick under the strings up at 0 fret - that helps the tuning up the fret board - so maybe I just need the strings to ride over the 0 fret?)
(The +3 tab conversion really works best) Sorry, but what does that mean?
Use a DAd tab & count up 3 frets on melody? So, if it's a 2 I would play a 5? Same as a DAA tab
or - use a DAA tab & count up 3 frets, so a 3 I would play on a 6?