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Strumelia
@strumelia
12/06/09 09:06:24PM
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STINKAROO advice...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Lois Hornbostel said:
Nowadays, it's "in" for old-time musicians to play very dronally, as Bruce Greene does - and it sounds good. Guitarists play their chord progressions along with his dronal style and have learned not to complain. One of the reasons he and Don sound so nice together (and authentic) on old-time music is they are dronal.
Oh my gosh Lois, can you imagine some guitar player complaining to Bruce about his playing? I can just picture it!... LOL!! =8-0
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/22/09 10:04:32PM
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Someone should say to your mother- "If you keep listening you'll hear better." ;D
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/15/09 02:09:31PM
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<<I've been getting used to just nodding and smiling when confronted with much "helpful advice" from others. When I went to get the strings I'm using now I was told at the music store that four .010 banjo strings wouldn't work on a dulcimer. Nod and smile.'>>Me too. Same things happens at the bicycle store when they tell me 'nobody rides steel bikes anymore...nobody uses 9 speed anymore...nobody uses bar-end shifters anymore."....nod and smile, nod and smile... LOL
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/10/09 09:27:43PM
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STINKAROO advice...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Ok, a fun thread now-Did you ever get a piece of dulcimer playing or music playing advice that totally STUNK, didn't work for you and actually messed you up in some way? (no naming names though please, this is all in fun!) =8-o ;D


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Strumelia
@strumelia
04/06/10 06:37:38PM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


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Bill, the short answer, if you are fretting only the melody string, is this:Look in the list of songs at the beginning of the book, where Jean tells what MODE the song is in.Tune like this for each mode:Mixolydian= DAdAeolian= DACIonian= DAADorian= DAGForget about the other modes for the time being. These four are plenty to start.Note that your melody string is the only one you need to retune. And also note that in DAd, the melody string d is the highest note you will tune to. When going from DAd to any of the other modes, you will be tuning your melody string DOWN, not up.Ok? This will get you started! LOL!
Strumelia
@strumelia
04/06/10 04:13:49PM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Bill, this book was written at a time when dulcimer 'tab' was not that common yet- and a higher percentage of players knew how to read music a little. This issue is one small drawback of this particular book.Here's how I figure it out:First I look at where it tells me what MODE the song is in for the book- In the beginning of the book there is an index of songs and their modes.For example, Aunt Rhodie is in ionian mode, Jean states there.Then I go to the song itself, and I look at the fret the song ends in. In this case, fret 3....thus confirming ionian mode.Now, if you happen to know that DAA tuning as an ionian tuning, you could just stop right there and tune to DAA and follow the fret numbers in Jean's tab and all will be well. But say you want to know which ionian tuning she uses, or what key she has chosen?Well if you look closely at the song, on the left top of the song it says "Tune dulcimer..." and underneath that it gives three whole notes indicating the three notes to tune your three strings.The lowest note will be your bass string.Look at this chart: http://www.cyberfret.com/reading/converting-standard-notation-to-guitar-tablature/1st-position.html Ignore the guitar tab part, just look at the named notes on the music staff.Do you see the first C note, and where it is located on the staff of lines? You will see that Jean's BASS low note is on that same low line. So Jean is tuning her bass string to C. Jean's other two notes she writes un er (Tune dulcimer..." are G notes, if you look at the note chart and compare. Thus, jean is tuning her dulcimer to DGG, which is the typical ionian tuning for the key of C.If you print that note chart out, it can help you figure things out when confronted by these frustrating mysteries.Another example is Shady Grove in jean's book. She states in the song list that it's aeolian.Then look at where she places the low bass string under 'tune dulcimer', and look at the note chart- it's a C note again. Then look at her middle string indication under 'tune dulcimer' (the note in the middle)- again it's a G. Now look at her highest note for tuning the strings, and look at the lower chart to find it- it's a B flat (flat is the little "b" indication).So, for shady grove, Jean is tuning C-G-b flat.CGb-flat is the key of C version of what we usually see for aeolian key of D....D-A-C tuning. All strings are simply one whole step down from DAC, and going from key of D to key of C.Again, just knowing that she tabs it in aeolian mode from the first Song List at the beginning of the book would then tell you you can simply tune in any aeolian tuning, such as DAC, and be able to play the same tab and same tab numbers.I know this sounds complicated, but the notation charts can help you determine what some notes are.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/13/09 11:02:45PM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Yes that book might not really be that hard to write....it might only have 2 or 3 tunes in it! ;DI have always been meaning to get that Homespun set of Jean's too....one of those 1000 things on my 'list' to do...
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/10/09 06:55:27AM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


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Maybe I'll purposely write a tab book on Locrian mode tunes for dulcimer.Hmmmm.....might be a bit short. But then again I like challenges! LOL
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/09/09 09:49:03PM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Oh, I see what you mean now- sorry! you mean that in the 70's there were a lot more dulcimer books written for ionian rather than mixolydian, like today's majority are in. Yes, I agree. :)For a rather obscure instrument, it never ceases to amaze me how many tab/instructional books there actually have been written for MD.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/09/09 09:05:10PM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Though one might easily assume that, actually the tabs in her book are in the following modes/tunings:5 mixolydian songs, 3 aeolian, 4 ionian, 2 dorian, and 2 phrygian.Then of course other chapters are on dulcimer history, playing chords, harmony, etc. :)
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/09/09 04:11:18PM
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The Dulcimer Book by Jean Ritchie


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

It's an oldie but a goodie!Every time I open it I learn something new, year after year. Jean has a way of explaining things well in simple terms. Has a nice selection of simple folk tunes to play in different modes, some fascinating history and wonderful photos. It includes chord playing, noter playing, harmony playing, and finger picking styles too.You can often find very inexpensive used copies on Amazon or Ebay.


updated by @strumelia: 06/11/15 07:21:26AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
07/25/12 01:20:28PM
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Any banjo players out there?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I think banjos and mountain dulcimers make more people happy than any other instruments!

Strumelia
@strumelia
07/10/11 06:24:20PM
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Sam thank you for the nice comments.

Foggers, I look forward to hearing more on your banjo journey!

I got to play some banjo this weekend at a little oldtime festival in MA.

Strumelia
@strumelia
06/14/11 10:06:33PM
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I asked my husband Brian this evening if he wanted to play some music together after dinner- something we just don't make the time to do often enough! To my surprise out of the blue he asked if I would give him a banjo lesson. So I did!

He did very well. We had to get creative due to his lacking the use of his left index finger and thumb (he has learned to get around this quite well while fiddling). We started with a non-chord style approach in G modal tuning to take advantage of the open drone strings as much as possible. I was very flattered that he would actually ask me for abanjo lesson, considering what a wonderful fiddler he is! I'm very lucky to live with a good natural musician.

So it was an interesting and rewarding musical evening for us both.

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/12/11 08:11:51PM
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Any banjo players out there?


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I gave a 90 minute banjo lesson to a friend the other day, and boyhowdy but that toughened up my wimpy callouses in a hurry! lol! I taught him Sandy Boys, and he loved it.

Strumelia
@strumelia
11/19/10 11:20:13AM
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Any banjo players out there?


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I used to have an SS Stewart student style banjo years ago too. It was nice! But I had to cut back the herd so I sold it to one of my banjo students.Randy, here's my tale of my own 'ugling duckling' banjo.
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/18/10 10:01:50PM
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I bet it sounds wonderful. I love the sound of those thin spun-over metal pots. They always sound beautifully resonant but clear, without sounding like they are 'underwater' like so many of the large deep pots these days.
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/16/10 10:23:59AM
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Any banjo players out there?


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i played some banjo this past weekend, and a somewhat crummy recording was made of us playing "Brushy Fork of John's Creek". Brian is playing fiddle...
Strumelia
@strumelia
04/13/10 05:18:57PM
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Gold Tones have a good reputation as a real solid good sounding affordable banjo. Good choice!
Strumelia
@strumelia
04/11/10 11:15:58AM
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Paul R.,Having done lots of 'setup tweaking' on both my bicycles and my banjos, it never ceases to amaze me how many similarities I find between fine tuning bikes and banjos. It's rather uncanny. I love tweaking the setup on my banjos!When i first started playing clawhammer banjo, I had banjo fever and felt I needed a banjo for every 'banjo sound' I wanted to produce. I wound up with about 13 banjos, but most of them simply gathered dust and several were unfortunate impulse buys. I Ebayed a few to get rid of the clutter, and now I have 7, one of which I still plan to sell too. My remaining 6 include 1 antique and 5 good playable 'work horses'. Two of those five are fretless. The 5 are played fairly regularly and I think I'll never need to buy any other banjos. I could actually make do with 3 or so, but since I have the 5 good ones I will keep playing them.My point here is that I used to think I needed a certain specific banjo for every distinct sound I was after. Now I've gotten way more laid back and these days I kinda feel like any banjo I grab off the wall will do just fine in any situation. As long as the banjo is set up well and plays smoothly, I'm no longer quite so picky about getting an exact certain 'sound'...now I tend to just say "hey, it's a banjo!" and it is what it is. At least all banjos sound like banjos, and they almost all sound good to me. LOL
Strumelia
@strumelia
10/30/09 09:21:08AM
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Foggers said:
Thanks Randy. It is really interesting trying out tunes on different instruments. I think certain tunes just work on a particular instrument. A song from Jean Ritchie that I have always wanted to do is "Sweet William and Lady Margaret". Of course Jean does it on MD but when I listened to it and sang it I could just "hear" an OT banjo accompaniment. That was one of the things that prompted me to go back to the banjo (as I already could play a little fingerstyle on it) and finally work on getting the frailing going!.
Foggers,Listen to the clip of my favorite recently recorded version of "Lady Margaret"- HERE . It's played by Brad Leftwich, Alice Gerrard, and Tom Sauber. Instruments are fiddle and banjo, so it might give you some ideas for playing it on banjo.That whole CD is well worth buying.
Strumelia
@strumelia
10/20/09 07:32:20PM
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Any banjo players out there?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

That's so true that learning a second instrument, or a third, actually helps us with all our instruments.I just LOVE tinkering with my banjos! The banjo is the absolute best instrument for tweaking all the mechanical parts on it. TOO FUN!!Great that you took off your resonator and loosened the tailpiece a bit. Try loosening the head just a little bit all around too....like a 1/4 turn per bracket. If it doesn't sound good then put it back again. I find the best sound is when loosening the tailpiece all the way and then tightening it just only enough until it grabs a little....no more. Gives a nice soft bell tone.
Strumelia
@strumelia
10/06/09 12:58:02PM
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Any banjo players out there?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Well you should know that many of the very best old clawhammer banjo frailers use/used resonator banjos.By the way, I have frailing scoops on my banjos, but i have migrated to playing even higher up the neck than the scoops, so they don't do anything for me anyway. ;)The banjo you have is likely just fine for clawhammering....just don't use metal bluegrass picks.
Strumelia
@strumelia
10/06/09 09:48:51AM
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I'd like to see a photo of your "Countryman" banjo- maybe it's just right for clawhammer....let's see it! :) Foggers said:
Of course I can now see that my "Countryman " banjo just aint right at all for clawhammer playing...maybe I need a new banjo from Santa??
Strumelia
@strumelia
10/02/09 10:28:35AM
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Foggers, that's great!Dwight Diller was my original banjo teacher about 11 years ago- I took a 3 day workshop of his when i was just starting out.I love his approach to clawhammer banjo- nothing fancy, but heavy on good rhythm. Dwight used to say "The right hand is the meat and potatoes, everything else is gravy."...I love that! ;DWhenever I feel that the banjo world is too frustrating and fussy, I just go back to the basic 'meat and potatoes' of Dwight's philosophy. you couldn't have picked a better learning instructor, in my opinion. Foggers said:
Yippeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

FInally my long awaited Dwight Diller instructional DVDs have arrived. Gonna have to put the MD down for a couple of days and spend some time frailin' instead.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/10/09 04:19:01PM
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Hi Jane,I have never seen Dwight's DVD's, but I took a weekend workshop with him when i was just starting out.He mainly emphasizes rhythm which is good. I like the West Virginia tunes he specializes in , and his recordings are such a pleasure to listen to- nice easy pace and clear to hear what he is doing- never fancy or fussy. I love how he plays, and I have several of his great music cd's, such as "Just Banjo" and Banjo '99, or some such titles.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/07/09 05:32:36PM
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Any banjo players out there?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hi Foggers,I play clawhammer banjo. I was lucky enough to have a decent teacher to get me started- Dwight Diller.I highly recommend his DVD's and recordings.Frankly, because I had a live teacher and banjo playing friends to help me, I don't know a lot about visual aides for learning the clawhammer stroke.But...have you checked out some of Pat Costello's online instruction? He has a lot of clips for beginners I believe. Check some here: Pat's clips I don't agree with some of his banjo philosophies, but perhaps his basic stroke instruction can help you if you have not seen it already.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/10/09 09:13:20PM
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WoW we have already topped 50 members


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You are all most welcome. :)I too am delighted and amazed at how much people seem to like the place.I was kind of lucky in that these past two weeks I coincidentally did not have a lot of patent invention illustration jobs piled on my desk for a change (my actual 'day job'...yes I do actually have a real JOB!). So I was able to take the time for the most time consuming/tweaking part of getting FOTMD set up. My wonderful Brian was very understanding as I took this time off of our regular work. Now it seems to only need modest changing and adjusting here and there, for ongoing growth/maintenance.I am so very gratified to see how happy folks are with it so far- believe me, that makes every moment spent well worthwhile. Such a wonderful bunch of people. Yay! Thank you!
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/07/09 08:31:45AM
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WoW we have already topped 50 members


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I'm pretty amazed myself as to how quickly it is growing. I am so pleased that it seems so easy to make friends here and get to know each other better. People who were just names to me before are now suddenly more like friends. I really love that. And new people from all over are appearing- people with many varied mountain dulcimer musical tastes and styles, even from various countries. I also am sensing that this site makes it very easy for beginners to feel comfortable- YAY!Thank you and everyone here SO MUCH for making it a success! :D
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/26/09 11:53:33AM
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Dulcimer or Guitar?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

ok now you're scaring me! =8-o Ken Hulme said:
Razyn - I'm thinking about getting the Model 3 - with the wine corkscrew and fretsaw attachments!
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/26/09 09:17:25AM
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General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Foggers said:
Or how about having an interchangeable fitting on your index finger - so you can attach the noter when you need it, a soup spoon for the kitchen....a screwdriver for the work shop?? The applications could be endless!!
Then we could all talk about Ken's wooden implant. =8-o ;D LOL
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/25/09 05:26:38PM
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Dulcimer or Guitar?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Hi- another member pointed out that this discussion is just as much about traditional noter style playing as it is about modern chord style playing.It's a great discussion, and is of interest to all of us no matter what style of playing we prefer- so I moved it to the general dulcimer playing forum so everyone could enjoy it more easily.Carry on! :)
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/24/09 08:25:11PM
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Dulcimer or Guitar?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Clare Chu said:
Fascinating discussion. I find that I'm drawn to the more trebly brighter sounds of the traditional dulcimers, a more plaintive sound that makes me picture a lonely mountain cabin next to a creek. But then again, I'm a violin player and sometime mandolin player so I tend to like trebly sounds.

I noticed that other folks like the walnut with western red cedar topped dulcimers that are mellower sounding and emphasize the bass string more. This seems to be more prevalent in California, maybe because of the guitar background?
Clare I totally agree with you on this. And yes I *do* think the guitar strength of the West coast had an influence on mtn dulcimer revival in the 1960-70's.I too am into fiddle and mandolin and I too prefer the higher plaintive treble sound on the dulcimer. I don't even use heavier middle or bass strings at all, in fact.This is all SO interesting!
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/24/09 06:49:34AM
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Carson Turner said:
What do you do with a big box of worms?
They eat up all our kitchen scraps- coffee grounds, newspapers, eggshells, veggie/fruit waste, banana peels, old bread, egg cartons...they love to eat it all up. Keeps it all from going to the landfill. They are neat and clean and they pay me back with trays full of lovely pure earthworm castings to fertilize my garden with...so I can grow more good veggies! The bin does not smell- it's like having a box full of nice forest earth. I could keep it in the basement, but it's much more convenient to have it in the kitchen- nature's garbage disposal. ;)
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/23/09 11:25:35PM
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Rod Westerfield said:
I'm not sure that a fishing pole left, but I'll borrow one an let's go fishin.... love them worms...
I've got about 4000 worms right in my kitchen! Wait, I'll go get them!

Strumelia
@strumelia
08/23/09 04:22:41PM
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Carson Turner said:
I do some past-life regression hypnosis - fascinating stuff. Of course I have to do the "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer because I don't have an MA in Psychology (but do have 2.5 master's) so can't license in this state even though I was trained to do it....... another rant on a different topic for another day.
Hmmm...no, I meant in my current life, years ago. Just a figure of speech when i said "in one of my past lives'. lol
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/23/09 03:35:57PM
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Dulcimer or Guitar?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

It's really a combination of all these factors we've been discussing.I mean if you play a dulcimer like a guitar it will sound more guitar-like, but it will still sound like a dulcimer also. And likewise if you put a dinky skinhead on a dulcimer and play it like a banjo it will sound more banjo-like.....but you won't fool ME! LOL It'll still sound like a dulcimer too.By the way it's cuatro, not quatro. In one of my past lives I was a member of a traditional cuatro orchestra up in the mountains of Puerto Rico. (really)
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/23/09 10:34:06AM
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Dulcimer or Guitar?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I think the dulcimer more often sounds like a guitar when it's playing typical 1-3-5 modern Western chordal music (which most modern folk and pop music is) and using guitar-ish flatpicking technique. Once you get away from the full 1-3-5 chord progression & flatpicking sound and go back to open drone/mode based music while fretting only the melody string, it immediately sounds almost nothing like a guitar.In simplified terms- when you play a dulcimer like you play a guitar, it sounds more guitar like. ;)
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/20/09 07:55:40AM
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General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Hi Teri,I split my time pretty evenly between banjo and mtn dulcimer. Even though I stick with all traditional music, I still like a little variety and hence the two instruments which I love.Learning new things is good. You should just do what you want! ;D
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