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Nathina
@nathina
11/22/20 08:23:12PM
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No wonder everyone has more than one.


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I have my dulcimers tuned to DAd DAdd. So I find a song that sounds better in DAaa, and then there is one in CGcc. Tune, retune, and retune again. How many have dulcimers just tuned to different keys and use that when they find a song? I do have capos but only use them for one song in a set if it has another key. 


updated by @nathina: 11/22/20 08:32:43PM
Nathina
@nathina
11/21/20 02:47:16PM
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How is the COVID-19 coronavirus affecting you?


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No, toilet paper is in abundance here. No problems. Certain imported goods are gone, the supply chain is broken. But otherwise no real problems with food.


updated by @nathina: 11/21/20 02:47:37PM
Nathina
@nathina
11/21/20 01:51:10PM
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How is the COVID-19 coronavirus affecting you?


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I cook Thai, Vietnamese and Japanese. Turkey day will be a turkey. Have to have a turkey with everything as usual. Christmas there is another frozen turkey waiting. They tied to say there was a shortage of turkeys, Covid caused, haven't found any shortage.

Nathina
@nathina
11/21/20 01:12:59PM
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How is the COVID-19 coronavirus affecting you?


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Not having any festivals to attend is a downer. My favorite restaurants have gone the way of the dodo, with more closing permanently every day. One more lockdown and that is it for a lot of them. Not sure what will happen with all the unemployed and under employed once the protections lift. Can't teach as I cannot do it online. Can't travel as most of the flights are cancelled or non existent and 28 days out of my life in isolation is not I thing I value. Not a good time at all. And on top of that, watching the Virus spread, (second wave was predicted) and yet everyone seems astonished. Current measurements will not work, but then they new it wouldn't yet had to provide the population with something to believe in, and they are running out of people to blame. On the other hand it is interesting to watch history repeat, and be able to predict to the letter what will happen. 


updated by @nathina: 11/21/20 01:15:08PM
Nathina
@nathina
11/18/20 06:26:50PM
83 posts

Blue Lion Dulcimers why so Special?


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What makes Blue Lion so much different than the other great luthiers?

Nathina
@nathina
11/18/20 11:48:39AM
83 posts

McSpadden v. Folkcraft?


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And I like when I see a new build using beautiful woods, Especially of the wood is reused. Such a wonderful way to bring the wood back to life.

Nathina
@nathina
11/17/20 02:27:56PM
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Bridge and Nut fix question


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Right, was not sure how high an action then we were talking about. Thanks Again

Nathina
@nathina
11/17/20 01:49:47PM
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Bridge and Nut fix question


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Thanks, but I was thinking use of a noter for a slide on the melody, and a possible technique of pressing the higher string down to create increase tension thus creating a sharp. (technique used typically on Chinese stringed instruments). I gave up guitar due to first bleeding fingers, then calloused one, then no feeling in the tips.

Nathina
@nathina
11/17/20 12:34:38PM
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Bridge and Nut fix question


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The only reason I can think of for higher actions is performing a slide or tremelo. Are there others?

Nathina
@nathina
11/16/20 10:50:08PM
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Bridge and Nut fix question


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You are adjusting the stretch of each string independently as to obtain the note.If you want to stretch it more, the note goes up the scale, until the tensile strength of the string is reached and they break.

Nathina
@nathina
11/16/20 10:04:45PM
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Bridge and Nut fix question


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There shouldn't be any difference in tone as you are using a tuner to bring it into true. Tone would vary by quality of string.

Nathina
@nathina
11/16/20 09:05:29PM
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Bridge and Nut fix question


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On the HD, all choruses are doubled, and each string is offset from the other, thus the "stretch" is different but the sound is the same. I see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for the md. In fact the chorus strings are also offset in the head.

Nathina
@nathina
11/15/20 09:08:13PM
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If this is true the Piezo goes on the bottom?


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Dusty I watched the video by David Beede. He is a fret board resonator believer which affects the soundboard so is probably in agreement with Doug Berch. His plastic card affects the soundboard not the bottom board otherwise there would be no difference, so it seems to prove that the top / fret board is more the resonator than the bottom.

Nathina
@nathina
11/15/20 08:59:08PM
83 posts

If this is true the Piezo goes on the bottom?


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Thanks. The contention that the discussion is having, is that there is nothing resonating from the fret board or the top. All resonance comes from the bottom, as some believe. However, if that were true, I would think concentration would go into the bottom for better sound tone woods, and not the top, plus film piezo's when installed would be placed attached to the bottom and not the top. Obviously the entire unit vibrates, top bottom sides, but the sound board I would think is what makes the difference. Size of the sound box and type of sound tone wood on the top.Doug Berch designs his units with the fretboard in mind, believing the sound transmits from the fret board primarily. Even if so, it would enter the top before the bottom, so no contention. I did play with the pickup on the gibson and found that no quality came (dull) out of the side, or bottom but I found a spot on the sound board beside the bridge and slightly down from the sound hole that was the best. I also ordered another Ksime to use on the McSpadden, as the Schaller was too powerful for the small sound board. It was picking up everything and then some even from the next room. I know there are a lot of theories and each promotes their dulcimer designs the best. It becomes very confusing. I know woods, I know what to expect and what they can do, but my training seems to be put to the test, with unusual theories and ideas that I know cannot be good dynamically or acoustically.

Nathina
@nathina
11/15/20 07:44:57PM
83 posts

If this is true the Piezo goes on the bottom?


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Reading Ron Gibson notes, he believes that the soundboard (top) is the vibrating resonator. Doug Berch believes it is the fret board, which is ok since the fret board will resonate and the top soundboard will pick it. Obviously others believe it is the bottom of the dulcimer that resonates. Yet the supports which I will call stays, are glued to the bottom and I have also read that up to five stays can be used. Those opposed to extra supports say that it dulls the sound. Have I fallen into a can of worms of opposing ideas from different luthiers?

Additionally all the piezos I have seen used are placed either as stick ons on the top, or film under the top and not on the bottom. This is more than confusing.


updated by @nathina: 11/15/20 07:46:38PM
Nathina
@nathina
11/15/20 06:50:02PM
83 posts

If this is true the Piezo goes on the bottom?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

From Benjamin Collie Seymour "actually the back is what vibrates and generates the sound on a dulcimer as the top is separated by the fretboard which runs the length of the body thus making nodes which stop the top from vibrating. That is why the false back on a Galax increases the sound and why scheitholts, epinettes, langeleiks, etc. were set on tables with the table acting as a resonator. Sound generation on a dulcimer is totally different than for most other stringed instruments."

I guess it is different than an HD. Thus even more important is two nicely matched boards or a solid one for the back. So then tops outside of being pretty are insignificant since the back is what resonates. Didn't know that according to Benjamin Collie Seymour. And we should be placing piezos on the bottom then?
Nathina
@nathina
11/15/20 06:19:32PM
83 posts

Dulcimer Dimensions


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In the long run, it doesn't matter if the dulcimer plays well. Also of note is that dulcimer maker "production" does change hands. McSpadden I believe is on its third owner and I wonder how often the old documents are reviewed?


updated by @nathina: 11/15/20 06:21:56PM
Nathina
@nathina
11/15/20 06:09:22PM
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I bought this bag for the Ron Gibson.


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A Padded Zipper bag, that fits the Gibson nicely. The only thing is the embroidered label sort. Maybe it is a take on my playinglipssealed


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Nathina
@nathina
11/14/20 02:24:01PM
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Can Anyone Identify the maker of this dulcimer.


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The entire dulcimer is odd. Beautifully done, carvings excellent, yet electrified I am sure after the fact. Otherwise the plug could have been drilled properly and replacing it would have matched the back. Or the access could have been drilled from the side and replaced with a preamp volume control.

Nathina
@nathina
11/14/20 01:43:15PM
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Can Anyone Identify the maker of this dulcimer.


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Checked Clemmer, he had small wheat sheaves, but nothing like this, plus his instruments are much finer. Although this is a beautiful instrument, it is "courser".

Nathina
@nathina
11/14/20 01:03:42PM
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Can Anyone Identify the maker of this dulcimer.


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True. The added magnetic pickup was after the fact. There is a bore hole in the back and there are screws attaching some piezos I think. There is no knobs, no equalizer, no gain controls or volume. It would require a preamp although with the mag pickup probably a direct amp plugin would also work. It is those wheat sheaves that I am trying to place. I saw them before on  on instruments by a good luthier. Can't remember where. The carving is excellent.


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Nathina
@nathina
11/14/20 10:19:03AM
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Can Anyone Identify the maker of this dulcimer.


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I am considering purchasing it. It is an electric dulcimer, no sound holes solid wood, not hollow, but the electric part was probably made after the fact. 

Nathina
@nathina
11/13/20 05:53:24PM
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Can Anyone Identify the maker of this dulcimer.


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I know I have seen those wheat Sheave Design before but can't recall where. This Dulcimer had a magnetic pickup added to it, drilled a small core through the back which was wooden plugged. It is bigger than the case. Any ideas who made it?


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Nathina
@nathina
11/09/20 07:38:54PM
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Type of dulcimer wall hanger


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Ken, I just spoke with Jim Woods today, he is still there it seems. Did find out the age of the McSpadden dulc I bought is 1982 likely made around August or September. Full Walnut, but that's all they had.

Nathina
@nathina
11/09/20 04:59:33PM
83 posts

Type of dulcimer wall hanger


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Contact Jim Woods at McSpadden, send him the picture of the flat head hanger, tell him your serial number and ask him what he recommends mcspadden@mvtel.net 

Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 09:12:39PM
83 posts

Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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I did it. Drum roll please. Worked exactly as planned. Added rubber washers to distribute the torque.


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Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 08:58:48PM
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Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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Tic Toc, Ahaa, Have to do it. Plans drawn, applied, drill set identified. Fate favors the fearless. Be Back in 15 minutes, either happy or ....... Although I am not bad at this.

Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 08:46:55PM
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Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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I have studied the contruction of the McSpadden and hopefully the construction blocks remained the same from the 70's to now. Sounding on the toe indicates a possible space however so I will drill a micro hole into that tomorrow. The neck is solid but I think I might use a slip strap on that if it will feed under the strings. The Scroll head has some spacing differences from the new scrolls. Will check further tomorrow and still may drill it. Have measured, sounded, scoped there is a full block on both ends. Drawing up diagrams now for placement. It is going to be within millimeters, to miss a "stay" or something more solid in the neck, and not overshoot the block on the base, while still accessing the hitch pins. And I am using oval buttons. Now if I only had an xray.

Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 08:01:41PM
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Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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Do you know if the toe block is solid down to the back board? I have enough space to place an oval button there if I drill a micro exploratory hole.

Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 05:30:27PM
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Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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In this older one the hitch pins are near the the bottom, and the this one has a scroll head with the scroll going into the instrument. No block


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Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 04:43:07PM
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Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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While the Rod Gibson is done. Added strap buttons quickly. I haven't decided wither to go horizontal or vertical with the button on the neck. Still have no where to drill on the old McSpadden?


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Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 03:18:04PM
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Where do I add the Strap Buttons on a OLD McSpadden.


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I am going to add the strap buttons today. No problem on the Gibson, lots of standard space. But the McSpadden, has no room on the pin block and virtually no room on the neck. Where should I install them on the McSpadden?


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updated by @nathina: 11/08/20 06:33:31PM
Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 01:46:54PM
83 posts

It Came today.


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Changed the string out. Noticed it wasn't a .014. looked closer to .008 or so was really fine. Now have the A3 on the middle. Checked the Octaves. Everything now where it should be.

Nathina
@nathina
11/08/20 11:44:26AM
83 posts

And now it is ready


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And here is the McSpadden fixed and ready to go. Brand new condition. Tuners hold now excellently. Scroll top, Entirely walnut and pre 1980 horseshoe brand. Now to add a piezo and some end strap buttons. Still out for debate is whether the nut and bridge are linen marcite, or bone or possibly ivory. Unlikely Ivory, but the yellowing is not consistent which may indicate bone. I am betting on linen marcite, definitely not canvas marcite. Will find out more from Mcspadden hopefully. The handles on the tuner are wood. Picked it up cheap, got lucky.

[edit, added by Admin] Nathina added:
Spoke with Jim Woods, the McSapadden was made near the end of Spring/Summer/Fall of 1982. Full Walnut top sides and back. Micarta nut and bridge, apparently linen micarta as I can see the layers. Added the strap buttons just missing an insert by mm (as planned), and everything is a go.


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