Song quest
General mountain dulcimer or music discussions
Great suggestions folks! Thanks.
http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/video/boatman-noter-drone?commentId=3745489%3AComment%3A347114
I like to play Boatmen (or Boatman) because it has 3 sections with lots of variety. On this video Cheryl plays it quite fast--it is a fiddle tune, after all--but a lot of dulcimer players play it at a more moderate tempo, which works better for me, especially if I'm chording AND fingerpicking AND trying to sing the words!
John,
I played with a lady yesterday who sung and played "Pretty Saro". Thanks for suggesting this song to me, it's a beautiful song.
Terry
john p said:
A couple of tunes I like to play round and around :
Pretty Saro
Suzy McGuire
Elk River Blues
Hi Cheryl,
I took your suggestion of "June Apple" and it was love at first play. Great song. I'm gonna check out some of that "Spotted Cow", maybe magic will happen again.
Thank!
Cheryl James said:
I can think of a couple of similar tunes, I know several dulcimer players really love to play June Apple and Spotted Cow is another one than can go on forever because it's just so much fun!
Folkfan,
Better late than never I guess. Do I play it fast or slow? Never slow. I would say medium to kind of fast. I can play it really fast, but I am not a big fan of playing Wildwood Flower really fast. I was playing with a lady yesterday who could not play it "kind of fast", so we played medium speed. Very enjoyable. It's nice to play it on the melody string, then on the bass string, or mix it up, and then an octive higher. I also love to play it with a popcicle stick noter.
In the mean time, someone here suggested the song "June Apple" to play over and over again like Wildwood Flower. Hey, I am here to tell you now that I love this June Apple song. Picked it up in no time flat, love it love it love it. Finger dancing is great, but sounds best with the ole popcicle stick. Actually it's not a popcicle stick, it's a wooden drink or coffee stirrer I found at Chic-Fil-A.Much more slimmer than a popcicle stick.Now everytime I go to Chic-Fil-A I politely place several of these jewels in my wife's purse to add to my bounty.
Good to read a post from you ff, missed you !
John
Jan, That's a good question. I don't think I've ever heard Wildwood Flower played as anything but a faster dance tune. All the recordings I have of it are at a toe tapping pace. Even those that are sung. So I've just never managed to play it. I've got slow hands. Since I think of it as a fast tune, I would only have thought to give faster tunes to match that pace.
So Terry, are you playing it fast or slow?????
Hmmm...do you play WF fast or slow? As a dance tune or a lament? If you're playing it fast, then Whiskey before Breakfast or Spotted Pony might be similar in "gait"....if you play it slow, you might want to learn Hard Times, which can be played all over the fretboard and handle key changes and anything else you throw at it. Can easily sit and fingerpick that for quite awhile!
I don't normally play anything as fast a pace as Wildwood Flower, but I have heard it played with Redwing which makes a nice combination.
As a warming up I always play the national anthem of The Netherlands, "Wilhelmus", in three styles: the version dated around 1580 in noter&drone style; the 1740 version in finger dancing and the 1938 slow version in chord/melody.
I play the double bass in a folk dance group (dancers and musicians) and also the dulcimer/hummle and the bones/clackers is a special set. Playing "Wilhelmus" is part of the show to demonstrate the dulcimer to the audience, special the bennifits of the diatonic fret board when playing chord/melody.
Mandy, thanks for the song. I've printed it out and ready to give it a go.
Mandy said:
I'm addicted to John Stinsons #2 on dulcimer. Not sure why, just am.
John, thanks for the song suggestions. I am not familar with any of the three songs, but that's why I asked the question, to learn a couple of new songs with the gait of Wildwood Flower.
john p said:
A couple of tunes I like to play round and around :
Pretty Saro
Suzy McGuire
Elk River Blues
Cheryl, I do enjoy playing "June Apple", but not familar with Spotted Cow. Sounds like a fun song. Thanks!
Cheryl James said:
I can think of a couple of similar tunes, I know several dulcimer players really love to play June Apple and Spotted Cow is another one than can go on forever because it's just so much fun!
Dusty, I consider myself a chord player, one-two- three finger chords on 3 stirngs. I do enjoy playing melody/drone also. While I do pick individual strings, I do a lot of strumming across all the strings. I have pondered over Going to Boston, now I'll take a good look and give it a try.
As always, thanks.
Dusty Turtle said:
Terry, can you tell us what style of dulcimer you play? Do you play melody/drone, do you chord, do you play across all the strings?
If you you play melody/drone, I would suggest Going to Boston. It lets you slide up and down the fretboard just like you do in Wildwood Flower.
Terry, can you tell us what style of dulcimer you play? Do you play melody/drone, do you chord, do you play across all the strings?
If you you play melody/drone, I would suggest Going to Boston. It lets you slide up and down the fretboard just like you do in Wildwood Flower.
A couple of tunes I like to play round and around :
Pretty Saro
Suzy McGuire
Elk River Blues
I'm addicted to John Stinsons #2 on dulcimer. Not sure why, just am.
Hey folks,
I am hankering for a new song to learn, a new song to love to play as much as I love playing "Wildwood Flower". I mean I can set and play that "Wildwood Flower" for 10 to 15 min. a shot and still want more. I love to play it up and down the fretboard in two octaves, sometimes mixing it up, sometimes with the melody string as lead and sometimes the bass.
While I am very familar with obtaining tab from "Everything Dulcimer", "Dogwood Dulcimer Association, etc., I am seeking a song from someone who loves that Wildwood Flower as much as I do, and has another song similar to WF that they love just as much, and enjoys playing it on and on and on.
Please tell me what that song is so I can get in on some of that fun.
Thank you.
Hi,
I've been doing a little playing with this instrument over the last couple of months. It would be good to get your harp checked out by a knowledgeable person - the chord felts may need replacing, a dull string may need replacing etc. Also the bars are usually taken off and rearranged in an order that makes for easier fingering. for eg grouping chords together that are common in songs (I, IV, V). An old harp needs to be checked for warping as well which can be fixable - or not depending on where the bowing is. If you've got yourself an Oscar Schmidt from the 70s, made in America, well those ones are reputed to have the best sound. Lucky you!
A couple of accessories you'll have to get is a tuning wrench - either gooseneck or T-style - and some finger picks - a thumbpick and finger picks for your index & middle fingers. Ha! Don't do what I did the first time I put the finger picks on and put them on so they resembled talons, curving over my fingernails. They go the other way, so they curve up and over the fleshy pad of your finger tip. I have a plastic thumbpick and metal fingerpicks.
http://daigleharp.com/helpandinfo.html
Strings, the felt pads, tuners and books can be bought from Elder Instruments
The Autoharp Owner's Manual (Orthey) has been recommended to me as a thorough book to have on this instrument.
Repair person: Chuck Daniels (in Arkansas)
I met Chuck at Winterfest in Irving Tx, earlier this year. He looked over 2 old autoharps for me and fixed them up to be playable again at a very reasonable price. Ask him about your Meg.
A very good teacher is Charles Whitmer. He has packets of music w/ instrumental CDs for sale. There's a lot to select from.
http://home.comcast.net/~whidbey/Whitmer-AHSheetMusic.pdf
More about Mr Whitmer here: https://sites.google.com/site/capitalharpersclub/songs-and-tunes
I was fortunate to be in 2 of his classes at Winterfest - I learned a lot. By day he's a high school music teacher - his students are lucky to have him!
http://cyberpluckers.org/teacherlist/index.html
check out Marc Gunn - celtic music on the autoharp - cool!
This forum is posted information rather than a forum of active users. I haven't had much luck finding an active forum for this instrument - but I haven't looked that hard either.
http://www.autoharpworks.com/phpbb/index.php?sid=f70b20fc7bb4751ebc5bf5b22cfc8458
Abilene Tx has an autoharp & dulcimer club. this is the contact email -
bcadclub @ gmail.com
The lady that replied to my queries, Carlene Wood was also helpful.
Lexie R Oakley said:
That was excellant Tom, thank you.
It was interesting that Stanley Hicks cuts the sides for his dulcimers from a solid piece of wood. He says it doesn't change the sound.
It would be interesting to know if any luthiers of today use this technique.
What fine craftsman each of these men are.
Ken is right - the chords your wife will need to learn to strum along to your playing would be the same chord names that you are playing on dulcimer. She is most likely to need the guitar chords D, G, A and perhaps Bm. Any simple guitar chord chart will show her the fingering for those chords on a standard tuned guitar.
Thanks for posting that. I've been wishing I had a hurdy gurdy for awhile now, and find myself coveting hers!
Wow Robin that sounds just wonderful!
The hardanger fiddle looked like one of the more interesting instruments in the documentary, perhaps because it is so recognizable as a modern violin with the exception of the sympathetic strings that echo a former era.
What a treat that must have been for you, Robin!
This is a great article - thanks for posting it Lisa.
Last month during my ski trip across the Skarvheimen in Norway, by chance, weskied tothe Geiterygghytta mountain hut on its 100th birthday and a local Hardanger fiddle player turned up in the evening and played for us
It was wonderful to hear local tunes being played on the instrument right on its home turf. We had skied from the Hardangervidder that day. Janet Crane, who is a great old time fiddler, was with us on the trip so she got to play some Appalachian tunes on the Hardanger fiddle on a snowy winter night in a Norwegian mountain hut - how cool is that
Very cool. It's amazing how great she can play all those various instruments.
Well spotted Strel, saw this recently on the News and meant to mention it. Didn't realise it was still available.
We had a N/harp player at the club a few months back, she's been turning up at some point most years.