Any banjo players out there?
Adventures with 'other' instruments...
Gold Tones have a good reputation as a real solid good sounding affordable banjo. Good choice!
It's never too late to start over!Different combinations of instruments have appealed to me, too, Paul. Back in the seventies I thought that Appalachian dulcimer and synthesizer would make a great combination. Go figure.Kate and Anna McGarrigle used a variety of instrumental mixes, even dual clawhammer on "Excursion a Venise" in concert (you can find it on YouTube), with Kate and sister Jane. The Transatlantic Sessions (lots of it on YouTube) feature a variety of North American and British Isles instrumental combinations. Banjo and dulcimer sounds like a great mix. A friend once gave me "The Best of Just Friends", a dulcimer CD by George Haggerty from Vermont, and it's filled with combinations: dulcimer with guitar, tin whistle, concertina, fiddle, bodhran, banjo, mandolin. The Fuzzy Mountain String Band had dulcimer in among all those fiddles and banjos.Hmmm ... How about banjo, dulcimer, and Northumbrian smallpipes?Messing with the banjo could be the musical equivalent of working on your bicycle. The Orpheum has been "tweaked" lately with head tightening and replacing the bridge with the one that came with the banjo when first purchased. If the sound needs to be "plunkified", stuffing something between the head and dowel stick works well. The old metal mute also completely changes the tone.I play banjo, also. I started with guitar in '66, banjo in '68. But after starting to learn dulcimer in '90,I really got more interested in banjo again after hearing clawhammer players playing with dulcimer players. The combination just feels right to me.
Paul
LOL Liz - yes, sorry if I kind of hogged your new baby a bit - it was of course sheer envy on my part especially given that the Saga banjo I had got earlier in December was decapitated by Parcelforce *sniff*See you when the snow thaws!Aha Jane I can see why I (hardly) never got to play my new banjo at our Christmas get toether - You were sizing it up for "secret santa" - good job I sat between you and the door - my new banjo AND the dulcimer book......
See ya soon friend.
Liz
Liz (Elizabeth) Thacker said:Foggers said:THanks for the replies Lisa and Randy; here is the news...
Well my laptop kind of hiccupped on the DVDs, but after threatening it with a hammer, things settled down and the disks play okay.
I like Dwight's approach to the right hand rhythm. I had already made a start on the bump-ditty pattern through a book i got a couple of months ago, but when I listen to practice recordings it just sounds too "busy" somehow. Having had a weekend with Dwight's "Just Rhythm" DVD I can see that I need to stop worrying so much about the "ditty" and I am already sounding more like I want to! So that is fun indeed.
Of course I can now see that my "Countryman " banjo just aint right at all for clawhammer playing...maybe I need a new banjo from Santa??
Mary your banjo playing is a delight. I especially like The Wind that Shakes the Barley. Is there anywhere I can get the TAB for that tune?
Hello,Yes--I've played banjo since I was 12 years old and my Grandad was also a professional banjoist.If you'd like to know more about me and my banjo music, please visit my website. :) maryzcox.com I do usually play at least a couple mountain dulcimer tunes in concert and evidently I play my mountain dulcimer so much in the old time string band style that folks have come up to inquire "What is the difference between a banjo and a mountain dulcimer? They sound so much alike when you play them. " :)
Hi David; that is a really interesting way to tension the head on a gourd - though I guess that Delrin is not exactly a traditional material!!My OH is an amateur luthier having made just 2 MDs after years of tinkering with electric guitars mainly. He now has an idea for a percussion instrument that would need a gourd as the sound box, and it seems impossible to source properly dried gourds here in the UK (weather just too damp I think!)Foggy - Always glad to talk gourd stuff. I keep meaning to put some building stuff on line but haven't gotten to it. There is a little piece on David Hyatt's site about how I reheaded a banjo for Mike Seeger with a tensioning system I invented that has no metal in it. Here 'tis:
http://www.dhyatt.com/craft_how_to_skin_Beede.html
Foggers wrote:
Hi David - that is so lovely! Have seen you on YT with the gourd banjos, and am really interested in gourd "technology" - will PM you!
Hi David - that is so lovely! Have seen you on YT with the gourd banjos, and am really interested in gourd "technology" - will PM you!Glad to see some banjo action 'round here.
I took up ol' time banjo years ago, but then got away from it in favor of dulcimers. I've been building and playing gourd banjos for about five years now and have grown very fond of the mellow round sound they have. Some of mine I string heavy and tune down to D which makes them easy to play along with DAD dulcimer players. The bluesy feel from being fretless also tickles my ear. Here's a tune of mine that I taught to my wife, Julie Johnson's first grade class. They sing on it and illustrated it with some amazing art work. It's one of those "metaphor wrapped in a riddle" songs. Check it out here:
Once again Randy - you are great! The sound of that banjo is so right for those tunes.David I saw a vid of your 1973 box banjo over @ Cig Box Nation...nice box & sounds great! No wonder you build such beautiful instruments!...that's a long time...there's not too much good to be said about getting old...but getting good at your job is one of 'em!
So I got my new/old banjo goin'....ended up putting a piece of brass over the fingerboard to brighten up the sound of the 1st string. I recorded a couple of vids today & I would share them with you if you please?
I learned Watermelon on the Vine from a Gid Tanner & the Skillet Lickers record....great Georgia band from the 1920's!
When I got my banjo to where it was playable the 1st song it wanted to play was this tune...I couldn't think of the title....after I recorded it my son asked me "what tune is that?" & it came to me....it's Nashville Blues, a Earl Scruggs tune. I don't play it in the right style or the right key/mode but it's Nashville Blues allright! Thx for whatching!
Wow Randy - and here is me too meek to tweak the tension on the head of my banjo! That is lovely work and I shall look forward to HEARING it when you post something here or on YT.Here's what I been doin the last couple days.
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My brother Rodney gave me this banjo a while back & at first I played it and liked it but...it had frets....and a long scale. So yesterday I removed the frets, sanded her down, glued a veneer on the fingerboard, cut 3.5" out of the neck made a 22.5" scale....I like to tune in A & D.....it cracks now!....& I think I got it to where I won't get slivers when I'm playin it!... : )....
I'm hoping this banjo will call to me...ya know....think of a song & know right away this is the perfect banjo to play it on.....get in the rotation so to speak.
This might be fun!
Thanks for the album recommendation Lisa- what a treat! I have the albums Alice Gerrard did with Hazel Dickens so this is a great addition to my collection - just downloaded it.Foggers said:Thanks Randy. It is really interesting trying out tunes on different instruments. I think certain tunes just work on a particular instrument. A song from Jean Ritchie that I have always wanted to do is "Sweet William and Lady Margaret". Of course Jean does it on MD but when I listened to it and sang it I could just "hear" an OT banjo accompaniment. That was one of the things that prompted me to go back to the banjo (as I already could play a little fingerstyle on it) and finally work on getting the frailing going!.
Foggers,
Listen to the clip of my favorite recently recorded version of "Lady Margaret"- HERE . It's played by Brad Leftwich, Alice Gerrard, and Tom Sauber. Instruments are fiddle and banjo, so it might give you some ideas for playing it on banjo.
That whole CD is well worth buying.
Foggers,Listen to the clip of my favorite recently recorded version of "Lady Margaret"- HERE . It's played by Brad Leftwich, Alice Gerrard, and Tom Sauber. Instruments are fiddle and banjo, so it might give you some ideas for playing it on banjo.That whole CD is well worth buying.Thanks Randy. It is really interesting trying out tunes on different instruments. I think certain tunes just work on a particular instrument. A song from Jean Ritchie that I have always wanted to do is "Sweet William and Lady Margaret". Of course Jean does it on MD but when I listened to it and sang it I could just "hear" an OT banjo accompaniment. That was one of the things that prompted me to go back to the banjo (as I already could play a little fingerstyle on it) and finally work on getting the frailing going!.
Did Rodney build the banjo, Randy?
The work you've done looks real nice.
I shall see what I can do about a pic. My other instruments are already jealous of the amount of attentions I lavish on my MDs. (We all know our instruments have feelings, don't we?) so it is about time I did pics of the others.It is a resonator banjo more suited to bluegrass. I am finding the idea of a banjo with a frailing scoop on the neck quite attractive because my fingers and thumb just seem to be catching the sides of the frets when I try to play up the neck a little for that more plunky and mellow sound. Gosh, listen to me slowly TALK MYSELF INTO A NEW BANJO !!!I'd like to see a photo of your "Countryman" banjo- maybe it's just right for clawhammer....let's see it! :)
Foggers said:Of course I can now see that my "Countryman " banjo just aint right at all for clawhammer playing...maybe I need a new banjo from Santa??
Of course I can now see that my "Countryman " banjo just aint right at all for clawhammer playing...maybe I need a new banjo from Santa??
Yippeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!
FInally my long awaited Dwight Diller instructional DVDs have arrived. Gonna have to put the MD down for a couple of days and spend some time frailin' instead.
Wow rayzn - I am deeply envious of your contacts with people who are heroes of mine - Pete and Mike Seeger, Homer Ledford....I have looked at some of the re-enactor/historical society banjo clips on Youtube. There are some fascinating instruments there but I am not sure I could countenance playing one with calfskin and real gut strings. And I know what you mean about the mentality of some re-enactors: I used to do meadieval re-enactment and found some of my companions to be rather in retreat from real life!!I don't play very often, but I started a long time ago. I have a few old banjos, say 1870-1900 or so, with and without frets -- and one reproduction "minstrel" banjo, made within the past ten years (an eBay coup de foudre). I've been to the Antietam Early Banjo Gathering, twice, and really enjoy the fellowship of those guys even though many of them are certifiable (i.e., dedicated Civil War reenactors). There's a Ning group for Minstrel Banjo, and I was lurking in it about a year before Strumelia started this dulcimer one.
My best banjo is an open back S.S. Stewart "Universal Favorite" tenor (a Nashville pawn shop purchase) that Homer Ledford converted to a 5-string for me. He added his special tone ring, as well as making the new birdseye maple neck (fitted with the old inlays), in 1966. One of the earlier Ledford banjos, I guess. He didn't sign it or anything, but I have letters from him when we arranged for it. I swapped him a nice early Washburn mandolin he wanted -- didn't pay actual money for the conversion, but he costed it out at $75. (More than I had paid for his standard dulcimer, in 1963.) I also got Pete Seeger to autograph it, when he did a workshop in Nashville around 1968 -- so now I can't change the dang head. Mike Seeger also played it, not long after that -- guess I should have asked him to write on it too, but we were actually friends, so that just seemed odd.
Back in the day, about 1915-20 when Uncle Dave Macon was a wagoner and there was not yet a radio show in Nashville (the Grand Ole Opry), my paternal grandfather was one of his employers. (I just checked the Wikipedia article about Uncle Dave, and it discusses The Macon Midway Mule and Wagon Transportation Company.) So my dad and my grandmother had some anecdotes about him. I knew two of his sons, but he had died when I was about twelve -- and he had long since been a professional entertainer, rather than a wagoner. I got into folk music a few years later. I do have a banjo that Uncle Dave broke in about 1892, when he fell off a friend's porch in Lascassas. He gave it to the boy who lived there -- who got the broken neck fixed, and about 70 years later I bought it from him. And I also got some good banjo tunes from him (Elbert F. Pilkington).
Dick