Mel Bay's "Dulcimer Sessions" articles have all disappeared?

Marc Mathieu
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Tnx kusani & dusty !

Dusty- I'm glad you found my article worthy enough to download. Thanks also for commenting on my DPN article on

"Partons la mer est belle".  For some reason, the English lyrics (for "Partons...") that I wrote, never made it in that issue, but were printed in the issue that followed.     

Dusty Turtle
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And thank you, Marc, for that article.  I hope you don't kind that I downloaded a pdf copy for my own purposes.  I also greatly enjoyed your more recent DPN article on "Partons la mer est belle." 




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Dusty Turtle
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Thanks, Lois, for your work in helping us find this hidden material.  Much obliged! worthy




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Kusani
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Very interesting article.... thank you!!!

Marc Mathieu
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WOW - thanks a million Lois !!  I just found my article published on June of 2006 !

https://web.archive.org/web/20060616215033/http://dulcimersessions.com:80/jun06/frenchcanadian.html

I invite everyone to read my article which required months of research to complete.   


updated by @marc-mathieu: 11/12/17 02:23:23PM
Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Hopefully this is as far as I need to explain it.   https://web.archive.org/web/20040330202706/http://dulcimersessions.com:80/ for Feb '04 issue was scanned on March 30 '04. If you go up to the top of the Wayback Machine where the little lines of scan are, you can also see blue arrows pointing forward and back in time.  Just click those to work your way through what was saved.

Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Woops!  Missed Oct. '03 as those little lines are hard to catch.  https://web.archive.org/web/20031007042119/http://www.dulcimersessions.com:80/

Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Are you clicking the lines at the top of the page of their captures?  This is what I found for the earliest shown:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030801132250/http://www.dulcimersessions.com:80/ gives July '03

https://web.archive.org/web/20040124023510/http://www.dulcimersessions.com:80/ = Dec. '03

https://web.archive.org/web/20040330202706/http://dulcimersessions.com:80/ = Feb '04

Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Since these are Mel Bay posts of earlier issues, I let myself hop down to Oct. 4, 2006 https://web.archive.org/web/20061004025712/http://dulcimersessions.com:80/

There I again see her with working links & this time it's actually the October of 2006 issue.

 

Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Hi Dusty,

What I was able to find a lot of the time was an individual article on some Business site that may have been re-posting it, but try this one https://web.archive.org/web/20160325051242/http://dulcimersessions.com/ which seems to come straight from Mel Bay and shows Lois Hornbostel, complete with working links.  I had earlier just seen the article on "Home-Middle-Outside", so this looks more complete.

Sorry it's clunky, but it's dependent on their scanning.

Dusty Turtle
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 Lois, I've been playing with the Internet Archive site, but I seem to only find information about when copies were made of the Dulcimer Sessions site. I can't find any actual pages.  I'll keep trying and let you know if I'm successful.




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Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Go to the "Wayback Machine" at http://Archive.org and at the top of the page you will see "enter URL or keywords", put in http://www.dulcimersessions.com/ and hit ENTER.  Working my way back through the "snapshots" usually does it.  The most recent snapshot was 9/29/17.  At first it didn't look promising, but scroll through the other articles down to "Welcome to the June/July 2010 Issue of Dulcimer Sessions" which has a posting date of Nov. 30, 2016.  Click "Read More" and it looks like you have access to other earlier issues.  I clicked Mountain Dulcimer Tunes and was able to reach that.  If there is more you should be access and can't, I'd go back to those other "snapshots" until you get a thorough one.  I'm not (yet) familiar with it, so those of you who know it will be a better judge.

Something I just discovered is Archive.org has been dumping some sites for lack of viewing, so the more people view it, the more it stays alive.  Had this happen recently with storyteller's site.  Supposedly it wasn't there, yet I noticed in the middle of the page it looked like a link.  Clicked it and got it!  

The "Wayback Machine" is a great service when a long-running site is no longer active.  Use it to keep it going.

Dusty Turtle
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Lois, once upon a time it was http://www.dulcimersessions.com/.




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updated by @dusty-turtle: 11/10/17 04:03:12PM
Lois Sprengnether Keel
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Speaking as another Lois who has found Lois Hornbostel's arrangements worth seeking out, I'd like to ask if anybody has the address of the old site.  As a librarian I know a few tricks for navigating back into the internet after a website goes down, but will need to know that address.

Marc Mathieu
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I'm really disappointed about Dulcimer Sessions being "pulled off" of the web. In 2005 Lois Hornbostel, the editor of Dulcimer Sessions had asked me to write & submit an article for D.S. My article entitled "French-Canadian Music and song for the Mountain Dulcimer"  was published on dulcimersessions.com  in 2006. When I noticed that this webiste no longer was in existance this past summer, I e-mailed Lois (the editor) directly inquire about it and this was her reply:

 "Hi Marc.Can't find the article in my files or on the internet" Have a great summer. Lois

I e-mailed her back asking if the Dulcimer Sessions files were archived somewhere & never got a reply back. Hope that it has not all been deleted. A tremendous amount of great articles & useful info was accumulated on there over the years.

Let's hope that Mel Bay & Lois can bring it back.    

Dusty Turtle
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Back in July I sent an email to Lois Hornbostel asing about this issue and suggesting that if Mel Bay was no longer willing to host the Dulcimer Sessions material we could find another site to do so.  Just today I received this brief reply: "I'm working on it."

Let's hope she succeeds.




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John C. Knopf
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Sounds from the wording like the reply came from "offshore" somewhere, like the phonecalls I sometimes get!

Ken Longfield
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This is the reply I received today.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

 

Ken,

Thank you for reaching out to us. Dulcimer is an important of our business and your suggestions have been forwarded to our management team for consideration.


Regards,

David Legere
Mel Bay Publications

Ken Longfield
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I did the same thing as Dusty, however I asked if they still had them in a digital format and if they would be willing to place them on another website if they were not going to be available at Mel Bay anymore. If I receive a reply, I will post it here as well.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
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Thanks for doing that Dusty!  HUG




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Dusty Turtle
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I just sent a message to Mel Bay via the website.  I just asked where the Dulcimer Sessions were. I'll post here when I get a response.




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Strumelia
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Apparently so.  Maybe someone could contact MelBay about it- they likely have copies they'd be willing to give us so we could post them here?




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Dusty Turtle
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shakeNo Say it ain't so!




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Ken Longfield
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My guess is that they are completely gone now. For a while I was making hard copies of some of the articles. When I get home I'll look and see if I still have a file of them. Other than that, I can't help. If they are no longer available on the web, this is a great loss to the dulcimer community.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
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This was a huge resource with articles on mtn dulcimers and playingstyles, both traditional and modern. (For example the article interviewing Phyllis Gaskins on Galax style playing, and the article interviewing Ralph Lee Smith...just to name two)

Is this completely gone now, or does anyone know where it may have been moved to?  Was Lois Hornbostel possibly editing/managing it?  (I have no clue)




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updated by @strumelia: 05/19/17 10:06:43AM