Muscle Memory?

Paul Certo
@paul-certo
6 years ago
293 posts

They say a mind is a terrible thing to waste, but for me, a waist is a terrible thing to mind!Frown.gif

Paul

Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
6 years ago
134 posts
See!!! I even got the DRD wrong. I just happend to see that. And replied to that on Friday. See that? CRS or DRD is a terrible thing.


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Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
6 years ago
134 posts
DDR, I like that one. Guess it means all the same thing. Just put a different way. And it's always best to listen to your mother...

folkfan said:

Heck I've always suffered from CRS then. One of my high school teachers told me I had a Swiss cheese for a brain. This particular instructor couldn't ever figure out what I could or would be able to remember. I knew what I could learn, I just couldn't remember what it was. But back then I called it DRD or Don't Remember Diddlysquat.

My mother would never have let me use that "other" word. ;-)

Jim Fawcett said:

CRS occurs for me just about everyday, folkfan. It's an on going thing and I just have to deal with it. I know that alot of people have it and don't want to admit to it. It's "Can't Remember Sh--". 40.gifSo if you have it, it's best to come out of the closet and admit it. You'll feel so much better.





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Paul Certo
@paul-certo
6 years ago
293 posts

If I figure out how to do it, I'll post it here first. Then I'll start training my finger picks!Grin.gif

Paul

folkfan
@folkfan
6 years ago
449 posts
This is something that if you do learn how to train them, you'll have to go on national TV and teach the rest of us. PLEASE63.gif63.gif63.gif63.gif63.gif

Paul Certo said:

Seems like "Reading Glasses Memory" might help me more. I remember where my muscles are,but if I can just train my reading glasses to come to me whenever I'm awake.....

Paul

folkfan
@folkfan
6 years ago
449 posts

Heck I've always suffered from CRS then. One of my high school teachers told me I had a Swiss cheese for a brain. This particular instructor couldn't ever figure out what I could or would be able to remember. I knew what I could learn, I just couldn't remember what it was. But back then I called it DRD or Don't Remember Diddlysquat.

My mother would never have let me use that "other" word. ;-)

Jim Fawcett said:

CRS occurs for me just about everyday, folkfan. It's an on going thing and I just have to deal with it. I know that alot of people have it and don't want to admit to it. It's "Can't Remember Sh--". 40.gifSo if you have it, it's best to come out of the closet and admit it. You'll feel so much better.

Paul Certo
@paul-certo
6 years ago
293 posts

Seems like "Reading Glasses Memory" might help me more. I remember where my muscles are,but if I can just train my reading glasses to come to me whenever I'm awake.....

Paul

john p
@john-p
6 years ago
213 posts

I have a suspicion that there is some sort of counting goimg on when I play too, some sort of feedback between the number of fret bumps on your finger and the brain.

I've just picked up a 6+ instrument, and for almost the first time in 30 years am having to retrain myself, invariable undershooting by a fret whenever I cross the 6+.

Don't like the three frets so close either, doesn't sound quite right somehow with the extra fret sounding on a slide.

Did play 'Black Eyed Dog' and thought the 6+ added something even though it was never played. So not all bad, but doubt it will last and I'll be back to the diatonic.

john p

Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
6 years ago
134 posts

Sad.............. but so true!

What is? 106.gif




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John Henry
@john-henry
6 years ago
331 posts

Jim, what was it we were talking about..................?

JohnH

(Completly Right............... Sometimes!)

Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
6 years ago
134 posts

CRS occurs for me just about everyday, folkfan. It's an on going thing and I just have to deal with it. I know that alot of people have it and don't want to admit to it. It's "Can't Remember Sh--". 40.gifSo if you have it, it's best to come out of the closet and admit it. You'll feel so much better.




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folkfan
@folkfan
6 years ago
449 posts
Jim, What is CRS?

Jim Fawcett said:
CRS is a terrible thing. Affects me all the time. But in the long run I win out over it.
Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
6 years ago
134 posts
CRS is a terrible thing. Affects me all the time. But in the long run I win out over it.


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Strumelia
@strumelia
6 years ago
1,702 posts

I love it when I struggle for an hour or so with playing some tricky thing, and I just can't for the life of me seem to make it click or get my fingers to do something....and then I go to bed and the next day as if by magic i can play it right off the bat. I like to think I got sprinkled with fairy dust while I was sleeping.

(but then there are also times when I go to bed and then still can't play it the next day... D'OH!!!)




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Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
6 years ago
1,397 posts
I think the concept is actually called Proprioception
folkfan
@folkfan
6 years ago
449 posts

Randy, a pretty good definition of muscle memory as I understand it, is given in WikiPedia which says.....

Muscle memory has been used synonymously with motor learning, which is a form of procedural memory that involves consolidating a specific motor task into memory through repetition. When a movement is repeated over time, a long-term muscle memory is created for that task, eventually allowing it to be performed without conscious effort. This process decreases the need for attention and creates maximum efficiency within the motor and memory systems. Examples of muscle memory are found in many everyday activities that become automatic and improve with practice, such as riding a bicycle, typing on a keyboard, playing a melody or phrase on a musical instrument, playing video games,[1] or performing different algorithms for a puzzle cube.

Randy Adams
@randy-adams
6 years ago
112 posts

Muscle memory is a popular term amongst string instrument players, especially beginners. But it's a misnomer.

If you are waiting for your muscles to remember where to put themselves on the fingerboard you may be waiting for a while! : ) It's brain memory right? Your brain tells your fingers, and the muscles in your fingers, where to go when to go how long to stay there and when to move to a new place.

I don't want my muscles to act independently. I want my brain to send signals to my fingers at the speed of light. "Reverse course we have a new and different idea!"

Get those synapses and neurotransmitters and

proprioceptors

firing in the right order and play music!

http://www.lovinglife.org/brain.htm


updated by @randy-adams: 06/11/15 07:28:03AM