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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/26/22 04:58:12PM
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International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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It was so fun to wake up here on the west coast and find so many people had already been posting such good music on the first ever IADD. Thanks @robin-thompson, @ariane, @gordon-hardy, and @slate-creek-dulcimers, for sharing good tunes on our favorite instrument.


updated by @dusty: 03/26/22 04:58:52PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/26/22 04:18:38PM
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International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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My online dulcimer club met today. We were over 20, and several mentioned that they had already posted something for IADD. We played 5 songs together: Green Grow the Lilacs, Harlequein Air, Marche Nuptiale, Rickett's Hornpipe, and Southwind. 

And separately I also posted a cover of a Lucinda Williams tune: Lake Charles .

Here's a screen shot one of the participants sent me:

Happy IAD DayappreciatingDusty.jpg


updated by @dusty: 03/26/22 04:52:49PM
cairney
@steve-c
03/26/22 12:02:12PM
97 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Just finished playing dulcimer at our local antique store.  Introduced the dulcimer to people wha have never met her…😊

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/26/22 11:36:37AM
2,400 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Yes- the v is 'down'. The v^ is down,up.  By 'down' I mean the dominant direction that you tend to strum in- some folks strum inwards towards their body on major notes, others have an outwards dominant direction, away from their bodies. Thus, my v means your dominant direction strum. Easy to think of it as 'down', while the ^ is strummed as you go in the return direction of the strum. For more on this, use the blog's right lower keyword search feature and choose 'strumming' for various posts on strumming tips.

Suzette
@suzette
03/26/22 10:33:36AM
5 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Are the little v and upside down v another way of saying down up down

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/26/22 10:30:40AM
1,314 posts

HELP- Broken tuner peg


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

All good suggestions. I am interested to hear how you replace this tuning pin. Like others here in over forty years of working with autoharps and hammered dulcimers I've never seen that happen to a pin.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a new song."

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/26/22 10:23:30AM
1,314 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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This is good music folks! Thanks for sharing you talent on IADD.

Ken

"The dulcimer (and its players) sing a sweet song."

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
03/26/22 10:20:26AM
130 posts

HELP- Broken tuner peg


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On reflection, a screw driver bit on a 1/4" socket wrench would allow greater downward pressure and torque than any regular screw driver. An extension would help, too.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/26/22 10:09:07AM
1,543 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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How I enjoy seeing music from lovers of the Appalachian dulcimer from places near and far!  Wonderful music, friends!  

Gordon Hardy
@gordon-hardy
03/26/22 10:03:51AM
30 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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To mark International Appalachian Dulcimer Day here is my version of The Leaving Shanty

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
03/26/22 08:59:44AM
130 posts

HELP- Broken tuner peg


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It looks to me that the string hole is now more-or-less a slot. First, I'd try using a screw driver, but not really expecting that to work.

My second try would be to deepen the slot with a saw and files. This would require removing other strings and maybe some pins. I think that would require less skill than drilling for a screw extractor.

It also looks to me like the string hole in the broken pin might have been off-center. I would also be concerned about the variation between notes in the string windings.

If the pin holes do not go all the way through the wood, some may have bottomed out. The pins may not have been backed out enough before winding on the new strings.

Ariane
@ariane
03/26/22 08:48:04AM
50 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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In celebration of the today's #internationalappalachiandulcimerday please find my original composition called "Waltzing in the Appalachians" - I would be happy if you enjoyed it (best listened to it with headphones).

The journey with this special musical instrument started for me in 2018 - and the magic is not only its sweet sound and beautiful look but also all the very kind dulcimer players one can meet all over the world grphug

Happy dulcimering!

Ariane

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/26/22 08:36:28AM
2,400 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


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So happy you are enjoying it!

There are many beautiful and plaintive tunes in DAC tuning (Aeolian mode). They are so easy to play in drone style when in the proper tuning.

Here are a couple other DAC/Aeolian tab posts from my blog if you like to explore more:

https://dulcimer-noter-drone.blogspot.com/2009/03/here-is-another-old-ballad-in-aeolian.html

https://dulcimer-noter-drone.blogspot.com/2009/03/black-is-color.html

https://dulcimer-noter-drone.blogspot.com/2009/07/wedding-dress-my-little-doney-gal.html

Ariane
@ariane
03/26/22 08:10:59AM
50 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Dear Robin and Mark - I enjoy your wonderful music so very much! bighug (...and what a nice t-shirt you are wearing, Robin jive

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/26/22 07:59:09AM
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HELP- Broken tuner peg


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You're right, John.  I was seeing shadow, rather than shaft sticking up.  A small or needlenose vicegrip pliers should do the job...  It will take a lot of turns to get it out, but patience will be rewarded as they say.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/26/22 07:47:46AM
1,543 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Friends, it's International Appalachian Dulcimer Day!  I wish you all peace and joy and lots of happy strumming!   

John Gribble
@john-gribble
03/26/22 06:23:46AM
124 posts

HELP- Broken tuner peg


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There is enough of the pin sticvking out of the hole that you can unscrew it. I would use a pair of locking pliers, such as Vice-grip pliers, clamped onto the pin from above. Gently twist the pier handle counter-clockwise to unscrew the pin. Don't rock the pliers back and forth and there should be no damage to the hole. That is a very strange break. It will probably never hppen to you again.

Suzette
@suzette
03/25/22 08:37:18PM
5 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


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My oh my oh my! That Shady Grove in DAC is beautiful!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/25/22 07:47:19PM
1,543 posts

HELP- Broken tuner peg


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@ken-hulme it appears to be a chorded zither (autoharp).  It is surprising to see a steel pin shear that way!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/25/22 07:27:04PM
2,157 posts

HELP- Broken tuner peg


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Is that a Hammered Dulcimer?  In some decades of messing about with dulcimers I've never seen a steel pin shear like that. Wooden pegs, yes, but not autoharp pins!

The tuning pins are threaded into the wood of course.  There are "screw extractors" which you can purchase to aid in the removal.  Basically, you'll have to use a tiny drill bit to drill down into the broken tuning pin, insert the the screw extractor (which IIRC has threads reverse to normal), then unscrew the pin using the extractor.  Do an internet search on 'how to extract a broken screw".  

CarolynF
@carolynf
03/25/22 06:40:28PM
11 posts

capo to Em


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Thank you!!! I’m glad I asked!

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/25/22 03:38:16PM
1,844 posts

capo to Em


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Hey Carolyn, the standard for fret numbers with a capo on a dulcimer is that all the frets retain their original number except for the one with the capo.  So if you capo at 1, that capo-ed fret is referred to as 0, but the next one up is 2 and then 3.  If you capo at 4, that fourth fret becomes 0 and the next one up is 5 and then 6.

This is different than guitars and banjos, which causes a lot of confusion. At least it did for me when I first started on the dulcimer.

CarolynF
@carolynf
03/25/22 02:26:41PM
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capo to Em


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I'm experimenting with my capo. I'm looking at my chords, and realized, of course, that with no open strings, the chord doesn't change with the capo. I'm not used to playing that much in minor keys (with their chords) but I'm trying to figure a couple out. I have a couple pieces of tab to help me on my way. But I am a little confused. Looking at a piece from Bing Futch, (Star of the County Down) he has 000 as the open strum. Ok, no fretting. But then when the G chord/note is used, it's 333. Counting the capoed fret as zero would make it 222. Is that standard? Once you get up past the capo, to just go back to normal tab notation? The other piece of tab is Sally in the Garden, (arr by Allen Macfarland) who seems to be doing the same thing. 

So is that the way I should expect tab to be? I figure I'll mostly be playing by ear and with a bit of musical notation, but I want to get all my potential tools figured out.

steve104c
@steve104c
03/25/22 02:23:33PM
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HELP- Broken tuner peg


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Replacing all my strings. Just broke off one of my tuning pegs. Has this happen to anyone? How do I remove the piece without damaging the hole? 


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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/25/22 12:29:52PM
1,844 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

It's so cool that this is taking off.  Tull Glazener will be posting as well and just sent out an email with @steve-c's poster and offering tab for an original composition, available only on IADD!

Ariane
@ariane
03/25/22 12:26:25PM
50 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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That's a wonderful idea and I have just finished my recording for tomorrow sun

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/25/22 12:07:02PM
2,400 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


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Yes- thank you Dusty! My coffee had not kicked in yet when i wrote that.  lolol   Will correct my post.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/25/22 10:29:23AM
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How to Read tab for Shady Grove


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@Strumelia, don't you mean Suzette should tune to DAC?  Your link mentions "aeolian," after all.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/25/22 09:24:14AM
1,543 posts

virtual fest from Hindman KY


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Friends, this is a free virtual fest sponsored by Troublesome Creek Instruments in Hindman.  I've signed up and look forward to this event.  I'm not in any way connected to the organization of the fest so share it here in a discussion thread in case any of y'all may have interest.   

https://troublesomecreekguitars.com/2022-hindman-dulcimer-homecoming/

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/25/22 08:51:11AM
2,400 posts

A New addition to the Dulcimore Family


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Wow I bet you are super thrilled to have this new beauty, Richard. Happy playing!  dulcimer

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/25/22 08:45:25AM
2,400 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Suzette, tune to DAC and try my free noter/drone style tab for Shady Grove:

https://dulcimer-noter-drone.blogspot.com/2009/03/beautiful-aeolian-mode.html

(I posted over 30 free tabs on my noter dulcimer blog)


updated by @strumelia: 03/25/22 12:07:14PM
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/24/22 07:45:03PM
1,314 posts

A New addition to the Dulcimore Family


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

What Ken Hulme said. Enjoy playing it Richard.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/24/22 07:37:18PM
1,844 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Suzette, in the drone style, you never fret the bass or middle strings. They are always left to drone, and you will play the melody on the melody string.

You will sometimes run across tablature that places the melody across all the strings.  That tab is just not for you, so ignore it.  But whenever the melody can be played solely on the melody string, you can ignore the chording indications on the bass and middle strings. Over time you'll discover that a lot of traditional tunes sound great in that style, but some more modern pieces don't.

Make sure you join the Old Style Noter & Drone Group . You'll find lots of guidance there. 

Suzette
@suzette
03/24/22 07:29:16PM
5 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


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Thanks Mr. Turtle. Yes, I am looking for one finger drone style. So for most songs, I’m guessing I can just play the melody string?

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/24/22 07:20:21PM
1,844 posts

How to Read tab for Shady Grove


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

This is not the easiest tab to read, so don't feel bad.

The song is given in two sections.  In each there are three lines.  The top line refers to the bass string. The second to the middle string.  And the bottom line to the melody string.  So in that first section, you start by playing 1-1-1, meaning you fret the first fret on all three strings.  You end that line playing 3-3-5, meaning the third fret on the bass and middle strings and the 5th fret on the melody string.

However, if you are a beginner or if you want to play in the traditional drone style, tune DAC and only play the bottom line (melody string) of each section, letting the bass and middle strings drone.

The description on the page indicates how to read note duration, but if you know the melody, I would just follow the rhythm in your head.

For the record, there are plenty of examples of tab for this song that are easier to follow, so if you can't figure this out, I'm sure people can help you find other tab to use.

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