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fret markers.

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I thought i'd add one little tip here...
Wooden dulcimers and other instruments tend to darken over time when exposed to light. This can be a nice thing, for example a brand new light cherry wood dulcimer turns darker and reddish.
BUT, if you have any stickers on the fretboard and you leave your dulcimer out of its case (hanging on a wall or in a stand), the exposure to light over a year or more will mean that when you (or some future owner) eventually removes the stickers and cleans off the adhesive, there will likely be a noticeable light spot where the wood did not receive light. This could devalue the instrument. I'm not sure how visible this would be on an ebony fretboard, if one has that.

This effect takes way longer to happen if the instrument is stored in a closed case between playing. So that's just something to keep in mind. You may want to aim for removing the stickers after a few months if this is important to you.

Here's a guitar that had stickers on it for many years.. after sticker removal, the wood itself is now showing 'suntan marks':

updated by @strumelia: 01/21/26 10:25:31AM

Family History & Tales of Walt Martin & Sunhearth Dulcimers

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Lara, what a wonderful little story of the Sunhearth tradition around the 4th of July!  Thank you for starting this great thread.

The Positive Thread...

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Here's to more peace, kindness, and compassion in this world of ours for 2026.
Wishing you all a joyful new year.  oxo

A Very Merry Christmas to all my New Friends

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Hi Sandi, it's great to see you stop by!  

A Very Merry Christmas to all my New Friends

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Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, gentle Winter Solstice, and a joyful new year to all -   may the friendships and good will we forge here grow and branch out to touch the lives of others in many meaningful ways. What a wonderful group of people!

Plucked psaltries

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I have never tried playing Gaudete (16th century), but it's pretty syncopated, so you'll have to be nimble. Plus there are two parts, which are significantly different from each other. Most versions of Gaudete are sung, but here's an instrumental where the melody is fairly easy to hear:

If you need sheet music, maybe one of these images may be of help for the version you want to play.

It suggests to me like it has enough minor notes that it'd be best played in either Aeolian or Dorian mode on the dulcimer.

Hobgoblin and Song of the Wood are just two companies that make accessible plucked psalteries. You can find other nice ones on Etsy. You may have to decide whether you want a diatonic or a chromatic one. Also the shape is varied depending on the maker, including 'hog-nosed' shaped psalteries.

Hope this helps.

Retuning

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Debi, so far, nobody has asked you why you want to tune the melody string to F#.
One guess I have would be: because you want to play a tune that you were told is in the key of F#? If that's the case, then you would not be able to do that while leaving the other two strings in D and A.
Another guess I have would be: that you are thinking about the tuning D-F#-A, which some people have used in the past as an 'easy' 1-3-5 tuning to play in on the dulcimer, because it allows you to play bar chords a lot. But playing in D-F#-A is not the same as playing in D-A-F#.

If you tell us your goal and your reason for wanting to retune your melody string to F#, we can much better help you.

Retuning

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I'd also point out that if your dulcimer has a standard VSL (length from nut to bridge) of between 26-28", and you currently have fairly standard gauge strings on it, then if you tune UP from the note of D on EITHER your bass string (low D) or your melody string (high d) two whole steps to F#... then there is a very strong likelihood of you breaking that string with too high a tension.

You'd be better off tuning from d DOWN to the next lower F#. However, that's a lot lower than it currently would be, and many folks might find it feels too slack unless they change to a heavier string.

I agree that Dan and Skip's posts are a good thing to determine first. But i though t i'd mention about possibly tuning too high and breaking a string.

My dulcimer collection

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Gorgeous collection of dulcimers, Kendra. How cool that you love and play them all!  
I also am impressed at how precisely and carefully they are mounted on the wall. Good job!

Cyndi Lauper live

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Fantastic powerful voice and incredible energy. She was deservedly inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame this year (2025).

Cyndi Lauper live

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The dulcimer...  "everybody who played this is dead"...

The Positive Thread...

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Happy Thanksgiving, yes!  To all friends here and their families.
Perhaps a good time for me to post a link to a dulcimer song and (free) tab on my blog, called The Welcome Table . 
If you like the simple tune and learn to play it, you can always have fun with it and invent some new verses that make it meaningful to you. You can tune to DAA and play the melody entirely on the melody string, in drone style.
I hope folks get to spend time with people they enjoy today!

The Positive Thread...

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I love when those cool coincidental things happen, Robin.

Sound vibrations are funny. My husband sometimes sneezes so loudly that the two banjos on our living room wall actually resonate and 'play' their open string chord in response.  

History of Pinewoods folk dance camp

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This is a long video, but as a contra dancer, I found it fascinating. It's about the history of folk dancing in America (English country dancing, contra dance, and Morris dancing)- specifically centering around the Pinewoods dance camp in Plymouth, MA.  Amazing that famed ballad collector Cecil Sharp taught and promoted traditional dance there, among many others over the years. It's cool to learn about how the dance traditions at the camp evolved greatly over the decades from when it was established in 1933 towards what it is today.

Listing A Dulcimer For Sale

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Done.   :)

Listing A Dulcimer For Sale

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Hi Old Dawg... what is it you want to edit?  I can probably help you out.  Or, you can always add a new post to your existing thread, such as "This item no longer for sale"... or "I'm reducing the price to ___".  That will bump the thread up to be newly visible again in any case.  Let me know if i can help!

Extended Range Dulcimer

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Are you saying that you like the tone of the melody string when it plays the tonic D note on the open string?... as opposed to the melody string tuned to A and you playing the tonic d note on the 3rd fret?
I think the tone of fretted strings are inherently slightly more 'closed' sounding than open strings... is that what you mean?  That's one reason oldtime banjo players use various tunings... to take advantage of ringing open strings as much as possible.
But I'm sure others will have great input on this. 

P.S. what version source of Sal/Mud are you learning?

updated by @strumelia: 10/07/25 10:15:12PM

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@barnjam ... just from my personal viewpoint-  when playing oldtime tunes up high in the second octave solely on the melody string,  -because i play with a noter  I do not have the problem of my fingertips sliding quickly between frets that are very close together.  Just putting that little bug in your ear!  

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That's a great write up!

Extended Range Dulcimer

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You may as well try to trademark the name "Black Cat".
(But I shouldn't have veered as far off Barnjam's topic as I did. Will try to behave now.) 

Extended Range Dulcimer

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@barnjam ...remember you don't 'have to' play in the key of D, either. And having a chromatic means you don't have to worry about the usual diatonic 'gaps' in the fretboard when choosing your tunings and keys. 

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Yikes.  I once started using .009 strings to tune to dulcimer high D (D4) on a 28" scale. The strings tuned to the note ok, but they were so thin that they broke all too often often while playing. So I went back to using .010 for my melody strings to tune to high D.  But i can't even imagine doing that with a 35" scale length (!) and a .007 string. 
Does that "Stringjoy" Tension Calculator tell you when one of its suggestions would likely result in a string that breaks, or a string that is too slack?  I doubt it includes such useful info. I suspect that like any non-human, all it will inform you of is what numbers are correct for the calculation.  BUT... if anyone could actually do that experiment Nate, it would be YOU!    

Extended Range Dulcimer

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Another factor when making the fretboard longer and longer is that, depending on what notes you want to tune the strings to, you will have to choose string gauges that will enable you to tune to those notes on that length of fretboard. The trick is that although you'll have a range of choices by choosing various gauges, the choices are not unlimited as to how heavy(low) and how thin(high) you can go for a particular length of fretboard and choice of open string note. You can't for example tune to a dulcimer high D on a fretboard that is 35" long... the required string would be so thin it would snap under tension long before being tuned to high d. The opposite is true as well (trying to tune to very low notes on a very short fretboard... the required string would be impossibly fat and slack).

Extended Range Dulcimer

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I wrote a blog post on the angling of our fretting fingers that elaborates on that subject a little more- you might find something helpful in it:
https://dulcimer-noter-drone.blogspot.com/2012/07/lazy-fingers.html

 

You can't really have it both ways. If a string is tuned to D, you cannot play notes lower than that D (except if you start by playing in the higher octave, as you said).  Adding inches to the fretboard and some additional frets near the nut will not change anything, if you continue to tune your melody string to D .
Here is a very simple explanation of how an 'extended neck' Pete Seeger type long-necked (w/extra frets) banjo works- I find it helpful: https://www.deeringbanjos.com/pages/understanding-longneck-banjos?srsltid=AfmBOoo4bvXWt71VmGRjwkBHRjKQaD0g1EMhYPkE42R3hx7m9mR8bc1i  (banjos are most typically tuned to play in the key of G, and Pete frequently made use of capos to play/sing in various keys on his longneck banjo)

Truthfully, I might be misunderstanding your request or your concept here. The bottom line though is that on any string, you cannot play notes lower than that particular string is tuned to... no matter how long the neck is or how many additional frets you put on.

Extended Range Dulcimer

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One added thing I'd like to just check on-
you say you have trouble with bumping into other strings when you fret and slide with your "large hands", yet your dulcimer has a larger than usual fretboard already.
Are you fretting with the bony TIPS of your fingers, with your hand arched up over the strings, or are you fretting with the fatty PADS of your fingers, with your hand held more horizontally as though you are typing on a laptop?  Fretting with te very tips of the fingers can make all the difference in the world when it comes to getting clean sound and not bumping into other strings or muffling your own notes while cutting off resonating notes.

updated by @strumelia: 10/06/25 08:48:43AM

Extended Range Dulcimer

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I'm a little confused here and i have questions. You say you like to play the melody mostly all on your melody string while occasionally plucking the middle string, yet you also say you like to play melody on the lower string. 
Are you simply wanting a longer and wider fretboard, and will continue to tune to DAd and play in the key of D?...are you just seeking extra space for your large fingers?
OR... are you wanting to play notes that dip below the 'home' note of D on your melody string, as in tuning to DAA for example?
From your question, I'm not really sure of your goal.

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BTW the whole problem was the size of the images- that was also causing the text to stretch in order to be the same width as the giant pictures. Once i downsized the pix, the text fixed itself.

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I reduced the photo sizes and deleted the additional threads...  see if it's ok now:

https://fotmd.com/forums/forum/for-saleinstruments-music-items-cds-wanted-to-buy/48199/john-stockard-dulcimer-for-sale
(you may have to refresh your browser page to see the new version)

updated by @strumelia: 09/30/25 05:50:32PM

jubilee

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Very cool.  I had to look up the difference between a shruti box and a harmonium... both play background drones. The shruti box is more simplified, without an actual keyboard like the harmonium has, instead with a handful of 'chord' buttons, like an autoharp.  learned something new!

Jean Ritchie and her ballad repertoire

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Those very old Anglo ballads came from a time generations before Jean Ritchie, when there was no instant source of news in rural areas... no newspaper delivery, radio, or tv.  They served useful as warnings about disasters, illness, or criminals... and taught lessons in morality and behavior.

Jewish Music

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Just for clarification... I'm assuming that you mean "tabbed for dulcimer", as opposed to written for (composed for) dulcimer.

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019

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Oh my goodness, Ken... that's both wonderful and amazing! 
Big warm congratulations to you both!  

"Extra" frets and JI vs ET

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I would add that the 1.5 and 8.5 frets come in handy if you play a lot of very old music, such as medieval and renaissance music. I have found that those genres tend to have 'accidentals'... occasional notes that pop in or out of major/minor key creating an unexpected edginess to the tune. I have also used those two frets for unexpected minor/modal notes in older traditional American fiddle tunes which can be wonderfully quirky.
But if you don't think you'll be playing any of the types of music mentioned by Dusty or myself, I'd say you can be pretty safe just getting the 6.5 and 13.5 pair of frets... those two frets will give you lots of future-proof options.

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Your for sale ad thread must only be located in our For Sale Forum . No sales promotions allowed in other parts of the site. At the top of the above linked page, please read the rules for posting an item for sale, and follow them. And if your item sells, we ask that you make a small donation to our site. If your item does not sell, no donation is asked. (though it's always appreciated)
Feel free to ask other questions if needed. Thanks for asking about this!   :)

Playing A Longer VSL

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Wow @ken-longfield , that is amazing!  

Tuners on Folkcrat instrument are difficult to turn

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Great advice from both Richard and Ken!

BTW lubricating the gears will not make the tuners less likely to hold tension when tuned. While that might be true of wooden tuning pegs, these geared ones don't function that way. So, no fears there.

Playing A Longer VSL

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Nate makes a great point- just because the entire lengthh of the vsl between nut and bridge is a substantial 2.5" longer, that doesn't mean the chord stretches for your fingers will be 2.5" longer. The distance between frets you are using in a chord will be a modest amount longer.

Do you know anyone with a regular length dulcimer you can try out? ('regular' usually meaning somewhere between 26 - 28.5" vsl)
I have found that very often beginner players are solidly convinced they will not be able to make stretches that later on they discover are actually do-able.

Playing A Longer VSL

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Something else to keep in mind...  assuming you wish to tune both dulcimers to the same key and the same notes on your strings, you may have to use slightly thinner gauge strings on a 26.5" vsl dulcimer than on a 24" dulcimer. (Not sure if you are currently using heavy-ish strings now on your 24" scale dulcimer, and you also haven't said what keys you usually play in on your shorter dulcimers).
OR, you could take the opportunity to designate the new longer dulcimer to be play tuned down to a lower key, like maybe to the key of C instead of in D.
All this depends on your personal music goals and needs.

Playing A Longer VSL

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I'm assuming you mostly play in DAd tuning?
Are you able to concentrate more on playing the melody notes without necessarily playing the full chords of the song you are playing? Perhaps some of the 3 finger chords you use can be played with only two of the strings strummed, avoiding strumming the third note of the chord altogether?

Another thought- people who do what's called 'fingerdancing' are sort of replicating noter style play but using their fingers .  This can be done over several strings, and you can learn to incorporate a little of that style and perhaps train yourself to play more the melody and less full chording. Not sure if i described this well or not.

I'll also mention that doing hand and finger stretching exercises actually CAN over time extend the distance that your fingers can stretch to make a chord. And such hand stretching exercises are supposed to be good for your hands and their dexterity.

Jean Ritchie and her ballad repertoire

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I read once about how some of the words, phrases, sentence structures, and pronunciations of what today might be considered to be a "mountain hillbilly" way of speaking... evolved directly from old Gaelic language.