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John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
01/30/23 05:57:28PM
438 posts

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Several of the members here (including me) specialize in reproducing old dulcimers.  They are very different than the ones you see and hear today.  Some make replicas of certain historic builder's dulcimers, while others make replicas of other builders' work.  And some now make dulcimers inspired by the old ones, but with original twists to the designs.

Pondoro
@pondoro
01/30/23 10:48:36AM
34 posts

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shootrj2003:

I’m a new CGB guy,so new I haven’t finished building my instrument to learn to play on.I do have wood and metalwork skills ,previously having built flintlock,percussion rifles of traditional style1830’s and 1840 ish.I was wish to insert a pic of 1.8 mb but it’s not allowing me even though it’s under 2.0 mb?sorry.

Some 1840's Black Powder rifle shooters are very interested in matching all of their accouterments to a specific era - thus rifle, kit, clothing, instrument must all be historically consistent. This can be difficult with instruments. I have dozens of pictures of homemade guitars and mandolins and fiddles but they all date much later than 1840. You cannot argue the existence because the photos prove that they existed. But they mostly date to 1900 or later based on the other stuff in the photo. The Museum of Appalachia has an amazing room full of homemade instruments, but, again, way newer than the 1840's.

I made a 1920's cigar box ukulele using the oldest cigar box I could find (~1964) and all American-grown wood. I even carved tuning pegs of maple from a 100-year old floor. But I cheated and used commercial frets to make it playable. It was too much work to be an ornament, and I doubted my ability to make good frets.


updated by @pondoro: 01/30/23 10:52:04AM
jp
@jp
01/30/23 10:28:21AM
42 posts

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i am confused 🫤 i hate acronyms.

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
01/30/23 08:59:27AM
116 posts

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Ooops, I Googled CGB, but got CBG. Maybe it is a tuning for a lower voice, aeolian mode.

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
01/30/23 08:55:41AM
116 posts

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I would have guessed that it was a tuning, one full step down from DAC, but I Googled it.

Turns out is is "Cigar Box Dulcimer." that is an instrument with a rectangular box body and a neck. It is not a dulcimer, by our standards. And the body is probably not a real cigar box.

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/30/23 08:17:07AM
2,361 posts

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Dumb question maybe, but what is CGB?

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/30/23 08:16:03AM
2,361 posts

Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast in 2023


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

What an amazing body of work you and Wayne have produced.

shootrj2003
@shootrj2003
01/30/23 07:46:49AM
20 posts

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I’m a new CGB guy,so new I haven’t finished building my instrument to learn to play on.I do have wood and metalwork skills ,previously having built flintlock,percussion rifles of traditional style1830’s and 1840 ish.I was wish to insert a pic of 1.8 mb but it’s not allowing me even though it’s under 2.0 mb?sorry.

Patricia Delich
@patricia-delich
01/29/23 08:57:06PM
154 posts

Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast in 2023


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Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast - Episode 60
The End

https://dulcimuse.com/podcast

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This is the final Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast episode. Thanks to David Massengill for taking us out with On The Road to Fairfax County.

https://dulcimuse.com/podcast/resource/060.html

Thanks for listening!

Patricia Delich & Wayne Jiang

Bill Robison
@bill-robison
01/29/23 06:56:29PM
36 posts

confusing fret layout


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

I recently acquired what I believe is an all walnut  Davis kit dulcimer. 5 strings, peg tuners, 14 -1/16 inch from nut to 7th fret. floating bridge, no tag, name date etc. It was put together very well, good joints and finish .   I wish to add a 6 1/2 fret. My problem can be shown with the comparison chart I have attached showing calculated locations for JI, EqI , measured with a tape then with a 24" digital caliper. I have run the calculations from 27 to 28 1/2 " and nothing matches, but when tuned to DAd, it is good on the electronic strobe  tuner and sounds ok with my other dulcimers. I can locate the 6 1/2 fret by ear but am wondering how these frets can be vary so much yet still be in tune with equal method calculations. Any thoughts or comments?


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John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
01/28/23 09:26:32PM
438 posts

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Hi! Welcome to this musical crowd, ShootRJ!  We've got a lot happening on this site, as you can see!

shootrj2003
@shootrj2003
01/28/23 08:08:35PM
20 posts

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General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Hello everyone,I am admittedly a cgb guy but I do like dulcimers and any of the various homemade and earthy “ mountain and folk instruments.

Banjimer
@greg-gunner
01/25/23 03:19:49PM
143 posts

Stanley Hicks / David Love dulcimer


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Another issue in making such a chart would be defining what constitutes a dulcimer builder.  In some families nearly every son either assisted his father in dulcimer making or made a single dulcimer before losing interest.  Other dulcimer makers made multiple dulcimers and taught others how to build the instruments.

The lack of surviving instruments attributed to those recalled in oral history as dulcimer builders makes one question who did and did not build dulcimers.  The Hicks family is a good example.  Several members of the Hicks family were said to have made dulcimers: Ben Hicks, Roby Hicks, Nathan Hicks, Stanley Hicks, Floyd Hicks, Windsor Canada Hicks, James Brownlow Hicks, Edd Presnell, and Frank Proffitt.

But Ben Hicks had two sons: Nathan Hicks and Samuel Hicks.  Nathan Hicks was clearly a dulcimer builder, but what about his brother, Samuel Hicks.  Did he learn how to make dulcimers?  

There is also some question as to who made the dulcimers sold by Nathan in the 1930s and 1940s.  Obviously, Nathan made most of the dulcimers attributed to him.  But oral history suggests that his father, Ben Hicks; his uncle, Roby Hicks, his first cousin, Windsor Canada Hicks, and possibly others helped him fulfill orders.

The evidence suggests the number of dulcimer builders making more than a handful of instruments was quite small.  And the number of surviving instruments can be attributed to a small number of builders.  But there were many more dulcimer builders who built only a single or limited number of dulcimers.

Banjimer
@greg-gunner
01/25/23 12:31:23PM
143 posts

Stanley Hicks / David Love dulcimer


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I've got the relationships for most of the Watauga County, NC dulcimer makers, but there are so many marriages of first cousins, the chart becomes too complex as the same names repeat in multiple family surnames.  All of the well-known names can be traced through marriage or birth to the family of James Presnell and Susan Hartzel Benfield.  Suffice to say, all the Presnells, Hicks, Glenns, Harmons, and even a number of Proffitts and Testers are related in some way.

Due to the large number of names it would take multiple charts to even begin a complete listing.  And that's just for the NC dulcimer makers.

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
01/25/23 09:52:13AM
438 posts

Stanley Hicks / David Love dulcimer


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I think it would be interesting if somebody (not me) made a chart linking known, historic dulcimer-building-family members.  There would be Glenns, Hicks, Presnells, Proffitts, Meltons, Russells, Mawhees, Graves, etc. included, with dozens more, I would guess.  Just a little project to pass the time away...

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/17/23 10:20:29PM
2,361 posts

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You look as though you haven't aged a day, JP.   winky

jp
@jp
01/17/23 09:58:31PM
42 posts

A stolen Rolling Stones dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Lady Jane

jp
@jp
01/17/23 09:49:17PM
42 posts

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General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

hello its me jp...anyone remember me? its been 5 years .. i gotta email from you guys today about an old post... so i thought i would stop by and see if i could help the poster...  and now i find myself looking around again ... lost all motivation on things it is a sorry thing ....

so anyway hello again

jp

Dan
@dan
01/17/23 07:37:28PM
201 posts

CBS piece on Troublesome Creek Stringed Instruments


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Just a note, not "all" employees are recovering...

Susie
@susie
01/17/23 07:00:00PM
510 posts

CBS piece on Troublesome Creek Stringed Instruments


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Thank you for sharing, what a great program. 

https://troublesomecreekguitars.com/


updated by @susie: 01/17/23 07:02:09PM
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
01/17/23 06:21:22PM
188 posts

CBS piece on Troublesome Creek Stringed Instruments


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

They did mention dulcimers and student luthiers building dulcimers.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
01/17/23 05:44:31PM
1,515 posts

CBS piece on Troublesome Creek Stringed Instruments


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Art S
@art-s
01/17/23 01:23:54PM
24 posts

Tab or chords needed for We Walk By Faith


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs


Hi friends. We are doing this beautiful piece in church. I need a dulcimer arrangement.

Thanks

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/16/23 04:22:24PM
1,259 posts

W. Martin Dulcimer History


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

You're welcome.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Badrepp
@bob-reppert
01/16/23 03:07:29PM
5 posts

W. Martin Dulcimer History


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Ken,

I want to thank you for the Sunhearth brochures and information on Walter Martin.


updated by @bob-reppert: 01/16/23 03:07:46PM
John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
01/16/23 01:36:37PM
438 posts

to get chromatic or not


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robert schuler:

ErthLing, I built a chromatic dulcimer for a customer and was quite excited about the project because it gave me a chance to explore the possibilities before I shipped it. But after playing diatonic for 50 years I found the extra frets a distraction. But give it a try. A lot depends on the type of music you want to play... Robert.

And, Robert, you may have noticed your fretwire supply dwindling twice as fast as usual!  I've built just 2 chromatics and started getting anxious about having enough fretwire to finish the projects!

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
01/15/23 11:27:19PM
257 posts

to get chromatic or not


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ErthLing, I built a chromatic dulcimer for a customer and was quite excited about the project because it gave me a chance to explore the possibilities before I shipped it. But after playing diatonic for 50 years I found the extra frets a distraction. But give it a try. A lot depends on the type of music you want to play... Robert.

Patricia Delich
@patricia-delich
01/15/23 10:45:07PM
154 posts

Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast in 2023


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast - Episode 59
Dulcimer Originals

https://dulcimuse.com/podcast

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In this episode we’re playing originals composed and performed on the mountain dulcimer by the artists themselves. You’ll be hearing music from dulcimer players Gary Gallier, Leo Kretzner, Mary Giger, Aubrey Atwater, Neal Walters, Christine Shoemaker, Holly Tannen, and Ken Bloom.

You can listen to all of the  Hearts of the Dulcimer Podcast  episodes directly on our website: https://dulcimuse.com/podcast  or anywhere you listen to podcasts.

Here's the resource page for this episode: https://dulcimuse.com/podcast/resource/059.html

Thanks for listening!

Patricia Delich & Wayne Jiang

Alegre1
@alegre1
01/15/23 06:29:41PM
30 posts

Kind of like, "Where's Waldo?"


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Strumelia:

Yikes! What year was that?

Not sure; maybe early to mid nineties?

Alegre1
@alegre1
01/15/23 05:59:15PM
30 posts

Kind of like, "Where's Waldo?"


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Hi everyone

People send me things sun and I thought you might like to take a peek and see whom you can find!


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Mark Gilston
@mark-gilston
01/14/23 02:59:37PM
8 posts

to get chromatic or not


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ErthLing:

If I get a Chromatic Dulcimer can I play it the same as a diatonic by just ignoring the extra frets?" 

The answer to this is an emphatic "NOT REALLY"  It is true you can play all the notes that you would otherwise play on a diatonic instrument, but regardless of the visual complications brought on by a chromatic fretboard, the REAL problem is that those extra frets mean that you must have WAY more precision and MUCH bigger stretches to play a chromatic, ESPECIALLY if you are playing chords and not just melody.  I find that many of the rules I teach for fingering on a diatonic, simply won't work on a chromatic instrument just because most people can not stretch 2 inches between ring and pinky fingers (I can, but I prefer not to).  Also playing the same tune on a chromatic and a diatonic dulcimer just doesn't sound the same at all.  If you play with any kind of style, whatsoever, then slides become a big part of the music, and they change dramatically when you go chromatic.  (Sometimes it can be to great advantage, but it is simply naive to ignore the change in sound.)
Gale A Barr
@gale-a-barr
01/13/23 03:22:21PM
37 posts

to get chromatic or not


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Bing Futch has a great book on Chromatic Dulcimer. Be aware he does include a lot of music theory information and counts frets chromatically versus referring to the diatonic numbering. Erin Mae has a lot of good chromatic references and usually provides sheet music with diatonic fret numbering as well as chromatic fret numbering in chromatic workshops

. Sam Edelston does this also - thanks, Sam! 

Method for Chromatic Mountain Dulcimer (Book by Bing Futch) – Folkcraft Instruments

Private Music Teacher | Erin Mae Music


updated by @gale-a-barr: 01/13/23 04:11:10PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
01/13/23 03:07:41PM
2,361 posts

to get chromatic or not


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

ErthLing:

If I get a Chromatic Dulcimer can I play it the same as a diatonic by just ignoring the extra frets?"

Yes.

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