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IRENE
@irene
09/11/19 10:03:21PM
168 posts

What’s your favourite playing style and why?


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NOTERS AND DRONERS.....YEAH, you all expressed how I feel about what I love to do on the dulcimer.   I'm soooooooooo grateful to have found others that like playing this "traditional style".  Thank you for sharing your thoughts here and expressed so well.   Today I just finished, and tuned him up, another Box Dulcimer.  yep, I made only 3 strings on him because I only had 3 banjo tuning thingies in my shop.  Ha.   I like playing both 2 or one melody string.  (I'll have to try a bacon sandwich.) personally, I don't like playing in Dad because I lose those 3 lower notes.  there's so much I love about dulcimer and playing it....aloha, irene

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
09/11/19 06:56:52PM
143 posts

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I only play noter/drone style. I love the sound and also the "feel" of playing in this style. I also have, in the last few years, fallen in love with playing the traditional 3-string, diatonically fretted dulcimore, with staple frets under the melody string only (I have 3 of these instruments each tuned to DAC, DAA, DAD).

 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
09/11/19 02:46:40PM
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Hi @tatts.  If you hover your cursor over your username in the upper right corner a drop-down menu will appear.  Click on the first option, "Account Settings."  Under your profile picture you will see an option to "Upload a New Image."


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Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/11/19 12:59:13PM
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I think it was a decent buy for $50.  Very strange setup, that for certain.  Not "old style fret placement", just a plain Diatonic layout, but with a HUGE blank run at the head from the Nut to the break over the edge of the tuning head!! 

Almost looks like the wrong fretboard was installed on the body.  Or the wrong VSL scale was used to cut the frets -- that board could have a much long VSL...  Maybe the strum hollow was cut and the frets installed from the wrong end.  The sound holes are a strange mishmash too, with the trefoil between two round holes.

The body appears to be mahogany veneer, and heavily braced inside.   

I take it there is no maker's label visible through the holes.  I'd say YES it's a commercial build, probably from Asia (just a hunch) or at least somewhere that did/does not understand how the fretboard is supposed to be on a dulcimer.


updated by @ken-hulme: 09/11/19 01:10:41PM
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
09/11/19 12:49:12PM
188 posts

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These answers are testament to the fact that the dulcimer is a magnificent instrument.
Banjimer
@greg-gunner
09/11/19 12:22:24PM
143 posts

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Most of my playing these days is a combination of finger-dancing the melody with my left hand and fingerpicking with my right hand, although I can, and do, strum chords to accompany my singing or to accompany another dulcimer playing the melody.  I've tinkered with the chord-melody style, but I can't say I use it much.  I prefer finger-dancing with my left hand or using a noter held in my left hand (thumb on top if the fretboard is high enough) for lining out the melody and fingerpicking or strumming with the right hand to get the strings to ring out and establish rhythm.

Since most of my repertoire is old ballads of Appalachia and the British Isles, I play mostly in 1-5-5 tuning (Ionian) and 1-5-7 tuning (Aeolian).  The actual tuning varies with the instrument I'm using at the time.  My 1-5-5 tunings include D-A-A, C-G-G, G-D-D, and A-E-E.  My 1-5-7 tunings include D-A-C, C-G-Bb, and B-F#-A.  Since most of my playing these days is done at home for my own satisfaction, the actual tuning is what I perceive as the best tuning for that particular instrument.

Although I have played in 1-5-8 (D-A-d) tuning on occasion, I seldom use it these days.  I've found that the vast majority of melodies written for D-A-d tuning (which is a traditional Mixolydian mode tuning) are actually Ionian melodies more suited to 1-5-5 tunings, such as D-A-A.  Although D-A-d tuning is the predominant tuning these days, I find it more suited to the chord-melody style.  Since I prefer to play in a melody-drone style, the various 1-5-5 tunings are more useful to me.

The tuning and style you choose to use is a matter of personal preference.  There are those who swear by the chord-melody style.  I happen to prefer a melody-drone style.  All styles are valid, and I make no value judgements concerning which style is better.  The only thing that really matters is which style brings you the most satisfaction.  

magictime
@magictime
09/11/19 11:50:08AM
20 posts

What’s your favourite playing style and why?


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The appeal of noter-drone? Okay, an analogy. I used to love a bacon sandwich, which I'd usually have with ketchup. Every now and again there'd be no ketchup available and I'd be stuck with a 'plain' bacon sandwich, and every time that happened I'd think 'yummy - I forget how tasty bacon is on its own'. But I'd always go back to having ketchup just because of the temptation to add 'extra' flavour.

Noter-drone playing is the plain bacon sandwich. The pure flavour of the dulcimer's basic sound, the melodies being played, and the expression in the performance, are front and centre. I've never even experimented with chord-melody because I don't want to get used to the superficially appealing 'extra' flavour of harmonic progressions (ketchup!), and risk overpowering or smothering the main ingredient.

That, and the fact that being familiar with guitar, chording on a dulcimer would just feel weird and upside down. Whereas playing noter- drone feels enjoyably and completely different. I like the slipping and sliding, working out little variations, focusing on the melody. And the fact that the learning curve is so smooth and rewarding - you can be playing a tune in no time when you start out, then just have fun with it as you gain confidence and pick up new techniques.
tpatts
@tatts
09/11/19 11:45:22AM
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Hi all, how do I change my account picture? 

 

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waynebergman
@waynebergman
09/11/19 11:01:06AM
3 posts

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Greetings Friends of the Mountain Dulcimer. I have just acquired a used mountain dulcimer. It would not stay in tune so switched over to the geared tuners from Folkcraft and also a set of new strings. I think the instrument had been sitting for a long time. I feel its older but hardly used. I am looking for some kind of marking inside the instrument to see if I can tell who made it. No signs of any kind of ID on the dulcimer. Seems like a quality build and seems in excellent shape. Old style fret placement. Thought I would share the photos to see if anyone can give input on the possible value of the instrument and if others feel its a commercially manufactured piece. Intonation is good and no signs of any damage of any kind. I paid $50 bucks for it and then another 40 for the tuners and strings. 


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Don Grundy
@don-grundy
09/11/19 07:26:04AM
188 posts

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Call me blissfully confused. I find my DAA tuned dulcimers to be zen like and totally relaxing. I enjoy the chords and fingerpicking on my DAD dulcimers. All of those dulcimers have 4 extra frets and I have two cardboard chromatic dulcimers. My favorite dulcimer is the one in my lap.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/11/19 06:58:37AM
2,157 posts

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I play, nearly exclusively, Noter&Drone, with a bit of Fingerdancing (a.k.a. Melody Drone) when I'm picking out a new tune and writing my own tab.  Why?  It is the old traditional 'high silver' sound with drones that I fell in love with 40 years ago.  Something about the drones "strikes a chord" in me, as it were!

No need to try and find or remember a bunch of complicated chord shapes, the melody is right there as I walk my finger or Noter up and down the melody string.  Left-hand wise, I strum more or less of the three strings depending on the mood of the tune -- usually to the rhythm of the words rather than some metronomic fixed beat.

I play mostly American Roots music and the Scots/Irish/English folk songs that those tunes derived from -- Shady Grove and the ancestral tune it derived from, Matty Groves a.k.a. Little Musgrave and Lady Barnard, for example.  

FYI -- in the dulcimer world we don't talk about "scale length".  We use the term Vibrating String Length -- VSL.  


updated by @ken-hulme: 09/11/19 07:01:12AM
tpatts
@tatts
09/11/19 04:10:17AM
9 posts

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Hi all, I discovered the mountain dulcimer last year whilst building a cigar box guitar. In March I built myself a 26” scale length box dulcimer but only really started playing it about a month or two ago. I’m loving the ease in which you can play chord melody and the beauty of the sound that the instrument makes (even my rudimental one)! The simplicity and beauty of the instrument has made it a real joy to have discovered!

I play a bunch of other instruments (guitar, bass, ukulele, learning the fiddle) and my main go-to style wise is playing the chords and melody together, finger picking almost exclusively. Occaionsally I throw in a claw hammer bum-ditty for variance.

Being from the uk I don’t really know any classic US bluegrass style tunes (although I’ve learnt Wild Rose and Arkansas traveller, I’d like to learn more) so I mostly stick to hymns,carols and other Worship songs. !

I was wondering what style everyone else prefers, particularly what the appeal is for noted/drone style? Because I’m interested and it’s so unusual to me. 


updated by @tatts: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
09/10/19 01:18:15PM
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Walnut Thomas with possum board


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Gorgeous Thomas style walnut dulcimore, John!   The matching possum board is icing on the cake.

cairney
@steve-c
09/10/19 11:02:43AM
98 posts

Dulcimer Maker ID


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I lived there myself and have family there.  There were more than a few dulcimers around there.  I have one that is supposed to come my way, it was built in the 1940’s and is fully fretted.  Chet lived outside of town, not sure exactly where.  He said his first one wasn’t very good.  Didn’t start building seriously until he moved to Dayton.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/10/19 10:06:30AM
1,548 posts

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If life allows, it'd be fun to go to Chillicothe and try to find any early instrument(s) Chet Hines built.  (I have deep family roots in Ross County, Ohio.) 

IRENE
@irene
09/10/19 07:58:28AM
168 posts

Removing a fretboard


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Thanks Skip....I will explore your idea with some other very good carpenters in this area.  aloha, irene

cairney
@steve-c
09/10/19 06:54:44AM
98 posts

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Great find!  I own two of Chet’s instruments.  Yours was called his Masterpiece dulcimer.  Ron Ewing apprenticed under Chet and can tell you more about him.  There is a bio of Chet in Jean Ritchie’s book Dulcimer People.  He built his first dulcimer in 1935 as a teenager in Chillicothe, Ohio. 

Skip
@skip
09/09/19 11:33:52PM
389 posts

Removing a fretboard


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I wouldn't recommend a heat gun, really high risk of burning the top especially around the sound holes and head/tailstock. Been there, done that. Heat works good when the pieces are pretty much the same thickness, not so much when the are so different

A wide drum sander [panel sander] may work. I've tried leveling wood using a hand held belt sander, doesn't work real well too often.

A 7"-8" long hand plane may give the best results [long up, around 18"/ 20", planes are what the old time cabinet makers used to level or flatten a board].

IRENE
@irene
09/09/19 11:04:33PM
168 posts

Removing a fretboard


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OH I LOVE THIS SITE....that is what I need to two dulcimers that I got at weird places.   Now that I know how to tune dulcmers...and hear and SEE it with my phone tuner....I want them ALL in tune.  nope...some were never fretted properly.  Great suggestions here and one of them is going to work.  THEN I can loan out these dulcimers with happiness that my students will be playing in tune.   aloha, irene

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
09/09/19 11:02:16PM
442 posts

Removing a fretboard


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Ken's right-- I'll sometimes use a Harbor Freight Tools heat gun to soften some Titebond glue enough to reposition something.  It works quite well.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/09/19 10:31:36PM
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Haha!  Molly, I used to say of one of our dogs how she was spoiled-- just smell her.  

Molly McCurdy
@molly-mccurdy
09/09/19 10:27:37PM
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They’re spoiled stinkin’ rotten, Robin!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/09/19 10:21:54PM
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@molly-mccurdy Those pups look like they're living the good life!  :) Great pics! 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/09/19 10:14:38PM
2,157 posts

Removing a fretboard


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IFF you used Titebond (or hide glue) in the glue-up, you may be able to use a heat gun, aimed at the fretboard/top junction along both sides, to soften the glue (even after years) and gently pull the fretboard off.


updated by @ken-hulme: 09/09/19 10:15:12PM
John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
09/09/19 09:31:25PM
442 posts

Walnut Thomas with possum board


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UPDATE:  He just received it a couple hours ago, and he loves it!  Sentiments to brighten a poor luthier's heart!

Molly McCurdy
@molly-mccurdy
09/09/19 05:51:50PM
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Removing a fretboard


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Thanks, John. I’ll give that a try, maybe with a hand planer or sander.

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
09/09/19 05:48:53PM
442 posts

Removing a fretboard


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Molly, I can't see what you're dealing with, but in most cases you should be able to surface the topside of the fretboard level, then either refinish it and install frets, or glue a 1/8" thick fingerboard over the fretboard and cut your fret slots in that.

The trick is getting the fretboard flat.  You could use a belt sander with a coarse grit belt, or a hand plane, or if you feel really lucky, run it through a power planer, a little cut at a time.

Molly McCurdy
@molly-mccurdy
09/09/19 05:45:51PM
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My two weenie girls, Emmy and Cricket, and my Granddaughter, Ariana, with my one-eyed demon weenie, Daisy, who now lives with Ariana because Daisy likes her best.


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Molly McCurdy
@molly-mccurdy
09/09/19 05:35:24PM
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Removing a fretboard


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What is the best method of removing a fretboard from a dulcimer? I built a dulcimer years ago that I thought was firewood because the fretboard was warped. A friend suggested I remove the fretboard, make a new one and put another top on the dulcimer if it gets damaged in the process. Any suggestions?

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
09/09/19 08:44:19AM
442 posts

Walnut Thomas with possum board


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Thank you all for the comments.  The new owner should have it in a couple of days now.

IRENE
@irene
09/08/19 10:36:57PM
168 posts

Walnut Thomas with possum board


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ahhhhhhhhhh, like it very much!!!   Possum board is not permanently attached.  So depending on the group playing with, in need of a louder sound....the "board" is there.  I wanted to look at it up close, but that option was not there.   I still like playing my dulcimers on a little low table, but I'm a chunky granny....so I have more control of what I can do with a dulcimer on the table....instead of on my lap.  ha.  Beautiful luthery!!! (I don't know how to spell it, but I can sure recognize good work when I see it here or in person) aloha, irene

Ferrator
@ferrator
09/08/19 01:41:19PM
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Walnut Thomas with possum board


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Beautifully done! I have been and always shall be a sucker for walnut.

And now, for the newbie question. Please Sir, what is a possum board?

...oops, I found the discussions...

 


updated by @ferrator: 09/08/19 01:45:49PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
09/08/19 11:53:44AM
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How do I post in the Photos section of my page?


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Some additional points beyond what Ken L went over:

Victoria, are you trying to post a profile/avatar picture of yourself that replaces the generic one of the tan dulcimer?...one that will show to the left of your posts?
If that's what you're trying to do, then you need to go into your Settings to replace the generic image.   

There are two easy ways to get to your account Settings:

1) go to your Profile page, and click on the GEAR icon at the right top corner to the right of your large name. Once in your Settings, notice that there are two tabs: one for Profile and one for Account.  Go to both those Tabs and follow the directions to upload your picture for your avatar (one pic will show only on your Profile page, and the other will show next to all your posts elsewhere the site. They can both be the same picture if you like).

2) the other quick way to get to your member settings is to hover over your name at the very top of any page here, on the right... the drop down menu will appear and just click on "account settings" - it will take you to the same place in your profile settings where you'll see those two tabs for Profile and Account.

If you see a bunch of weird code- it may be a bug of some sort in the site coding. If it is, I'll need you to tell me exactly what your steps were that make the code pop up, and a screenshot of the odd code you see would be invaluable to me in tracking down the problem and fixing it.  If you're seeing an error message, then I'd need to know exactly what the message says, and what steps you did that produce the message.  If I can't reproduce a bug or get detailed descriptions of how it happens, then it becomes very difficult to track it down and fix it.  Thanks!~

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
09/08/19 10:59:03AM
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Victoria, I am not sure what you were seeing when you tried to upload a photo. If you are on your page under your name and you click on the Photo box you see a page that says Create a Gallery. Click on the plus sign, name your gallery, and then choose a photo file. I find it easiest to have the photo file on my desktop and choose the file from there. I can't choose a file from my photo program. That just doesn't work for me. I am using a MacBook Pro, but I suspect it may work similarly with a Windows machine. Please ask more specific questions if this does not help you.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Victoria
@victoria
09/08/19 10:07:48AM
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I uploaded a picture of myself from my photo album and it would not meet some weirdo requirements . It stated a bunch of stuff in code I didn’t understand.
Salt Springs
@salt-springs
09/07/19 09:34:36AM
215 posts

Conversation with John Crocker


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That was a most enjoyable article/read.  Some our song writers might consider working on a tune called "John Henry".  He really is a treasure.  I hope someone will tell him how much many of us have enjoyed listening to him over the years.  I hope to hear him for many more too!

(It might sound crazy to a few folk, but I often think of many of the people who were with us over the years and have now gone on.......why not name tunes after them and there by remember their place in our dulcimer family.  You get the idea...

If set aside time to join in  "Play Music on the Porch Day", could we not also set aside one day a year to remember our friends with something similar?  Just a thought..........)


updated by @salt-springs: 09/07/19 09:49:16AM
Redmando
@redmando
09/07/19 08:36:19AM
28 posts

Conversation with John Crocker


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Don Grundy: 86 and still playing. John is my idol. Thank you for the interview!!!

He seems a lovely fellow, @don-grundy. I have met his son, Paul, who I will be "conversing" with in a future blog, but not yet had the pleasure of meeting John.

Redmando
@redmando
09/07/19 08:33:28AM
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Dan:

Our beloved John Henry, thank you for sharing!!!

You're very welcome @dan. It was great talking to him.

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
09/07/19 08:00:23AM
188 posts

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86 and still playing. John is my idol. Thank you for the interview!!!
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