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notsothoreau
@notsothoreau
03/25/18 11:00:09PM
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Oh, I do want an electronic tuner! Will save me so much time! This was already down to three strings so I wasn't surprised when the bass string snapped. I have a new set on the way. I'm going to check and see if the screws in the tuning gears are loose too

Meanwhile, I have a two string dulcimer. I just have to be patient a few more days and study tablature.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/25/18 10:55:01PM
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@notsothoreau -- tuning trick to keep from "popping" a string...  Never try to tune a string unless it's "singing".  Pick a string to tune and get hold of the tuner you think is 'right'.  Strum the string and give the tuner a quarter turn.  If the string does not change pitch up or down, STOP.  You're got the wrong tuning knob.  Try again.

Invest $15 or $20 for an electronic tuner which shows you which octave the notes are in.  We tune dulcimers to D3 A3 d4

An ordinary set of strings will easily tune to DAA or DAd (the d is an octave higher than the D).  That same set can go up to EBB/EBe and maybe as far as FCC/FCf, but the bass string will probably break trying to get to GDD/GDg.  On the low side it can go down to CGG/CGc easily, and maybe BFF/BFb before the strings are too floppy.

Robin Thompson
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03/25/18 09:51:48PM
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Hey, I'd love to get to meet you and play some tunes someday, Stewart!  I'm a full-time caregiver for my folks but am, I hope, in the waning months of this.  (Make no mistake-- I love my parents.  But my life has revolved around theirs for some years. . . ) When you have an OH trip planned sometime, drop me a PM! 

Stewart McCormick
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03/25/18 09:46:10PM
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Well, now I have two great people I need to meet up with, and hope a little of their playing Mojo rubs off on me!! This makes me very happy, what an awesome weekend...
notsothoreau
@notsothoreau
03/25/18 09:45:48PM
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Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


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I did find one that I fell in love with. Just want to lock down the sale before I talk about it. I did manage to confuse myself, as I kept listening to dulcimer music with that high sound that can come out on top of a group. And I would like to try playing with a group sometime. I decided that I wasn't ready for one with an internal pickup.

I do think it's confusing for beginners because we don't know what type of music we want to play and we don't know what sound we need for that music. I know the hazards of playing on inexpensive instruments, but sometimes it seems like the way to get started and experiment. I am really looking forward to stepping up to that next instrument. And it might be fun to try another kit some day.
Robin Thompson
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03/25/18 09:35:52PM
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Wow, Stewart, my home is in WayneNF-- in the southern Perry County section!  And my husband taught in Morgan County, right next door to Washington County.  Small world.  

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/25/18 09:32:34PM
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That's good thinking, @notsothoreau.  I always advise people to play for a year or more before indulging in what they think will be their dream dulcimer.  There are just so many variables (scale length, fretboard width, fretboard overlay, wood types, extra frets, bright tone vs mellow tone, internal pickup, and more) that until you play for a while and develop your preferences, you can't know what kind of dulcimer you will really want.  Get a decent, playable, and affordable dulcimer at first and give yourself some time to discover what options you would want on your dream dulcimer.  (Of course, if you're like many of us, you may find that you have several dream dulcimers!)

notsothoreau
@notsothoreau
03/25/18 09:25:18PM
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It's part of the reason that I'm not ready for a custom dulcimer yet. I don't know what sound I want to hear, but I am starting to get a better idea of it. I think this particular dulcimer was designed to be used noter style and that's something I want to check into anyway.

 

I know about acquistion disorders. I have five treadle sewing machines in this room and two in another! Fortunately, I have all the machines on my bucket list. I suspect there are at least two dulcimers in my future, maybe more if I happen across any old instruments.

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
03/25/18 09:19:44PM
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notsothoreau

Congratulations on your first dulcimer. I know you are excited. Best wishes on your dulcimer journey.

By the way, the DAD (dulcimer acquisition disorder) may strike at any moment. The cure is easy. Get another dulcimer. Trouble is the malady has a way of recurring at intervals.  I have found that certain instruments sound better on some tunes than others and some dulcimers seem to "prefer" one mode or tuning. Explore and have fun.

notsothoreau
@notsothoreau
03/25/18 08:36:38PM
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I can finally add a story! Way back in the day, I bought a kit teardrop dulcimer. I believe it was mahogany. I could play it, but it wasn't the best instrument. I have no idea what happened to it.  Recently, I got a wild hair that it might be fun to try this again. I'd tried guitar and mandolin but just couldn't seem to do much with either. I knew that I wanted a good quality instrument at some point, but thought I might check what is available locally.

Well, I found a dulcimer on the Facebook marketplace. It seemed like a student quality from the picture, so I thought I might be able to use it for awhile. Contacted the seller last week and he said it was available. Asked when we could get together and he said Wednesday after we got off work. I tried to contact him Wednesday and nothing. Later that night, he messaged me and said he'd be available Thursday, Friday or Saturday. Said we'd try again Thursday. Same thing. It turned out he was driving between Portland, OR and Eugene for his job! He apologized and said we would get together for sure on Saturday at noon. He'd let me know where we could meet. Saturday came and went. I got a message from him that night with the Steve Martin excuse "I forgot"!

I'd pretty much given up at this point, but it seemed sad to have a decent dulcimer sitting unplayed. I gave him one more chance today. And this time, he and his wife did show up! I believe this is from 1997. It has a decent sound but I can't really check it out yet. I popped the bass string while tuning it and my new strings are still on the way. I was able to pick out "I'll Fly Away" on two strings and expect to have more fun in the future. It will do for now. Even my husband is enjoying this hobby.

And, I do have something in the works to get that quality dulcimer. More on that, as I get further along on the plan.

 

Stewart McCormick
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03/25/18 08:34:15PM
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My family is in Parkersburg and Marietta, with a few in the Wayne National Forest. We probably know quite a few of the same towns and areas! Just was curious!
Robin Thompson
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03/25/18 08:25:57PM
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Stewart, I was just in Marietta yesterday, taking my folks on a day trip.  About 1.5 hour drive from their house.  (My home is closer to Marietta than is theirs.) 

Stewart McCormick
@stewart-mccormick
03/25/18 08:09:51PM
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Hahaha! Dulcimer find, a KU win, and getting to share them both with friends! This weekend is pretty great...
Ken Longfield
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03/25/18 03:59:00PM
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Sounds like you've got yourself a sticky situation there John. (Pun intended) The big problem with that glue is it expands as it cures so you have a very tight fit. You might try knocking it out from the side, but you risk damaging the slot if the glue bond does not break. I think I would try to either rout or saw it out and make a new nut. I know that is not easy to do and would require making some type of jig to do the job. Of course, if this is just going to be a wall hanger, you don't have to worry about any of this.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
03/25/18 02:01:38PM
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Well, Ken, at least it'll SMELL good, even if it doesn't loosen the glue!  grin

Ken Hulme
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03/24/18 11:20:00PM
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Gorilla Glue company recommends razor blade/scraper for removing blobs from wood; but that won't help in a nut slot...   Citrus juice is suggested for removing from hands.  Try sponging OJ or grapefruit juice on it several times...


updated by @ken-hulme: 03/24/18 11:21:32PM
John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
03/24/18 05:48:32PM
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That sounds like the same sage advice I gave somebody here a few days ago!

Unfortunately the nut has been re-glued with what looks like Gorilla Glue... might be a job to remove.  Thanks, Dan!

Dan
@dan
03/24/18 05:34:23PM
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Tignor got tired of fixin' his wifes Burgy so he decided he could make one better! Yes the early pieces would have been Burgy copies. I have no idea how the intonations on the early pieces were, but the bottom line is, do they want to play it or hang it on the wall? You could make new nut and bridge and save the originals?

DAN

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John C. Knopf
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03/24/18 04:55:56PM
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A young couple came to my home yesterday with a beautiful old Tignor dulcimer that had some problems.  The fist thing I noticed is that it bore a striking resemblance to an Uncle Ed Thomas dulcimer.  I think John was a protege of Jethro Amburgey, wasn't he?  Anyway, I brought my latest Thomas upstairs and laid it next to their dulcimer.  Apart from the Tignor being a couple inches longer and slightly wider, they looked like twins.

The 3 tuners on it were shabby-looking planetary models, inexpertly mounted by somebody, and all 3 strings were the wound steel ones we use just for bass drones.  I found reference photos of what Tignor pegs should look like, and set about to reproduce them in old-growth black walnut.  They came out very well.  I then went to string the dulcimer with the proper gauge strings, when I noticed the "mile-high" action.  The tone is nice, but pushing the melody string all the way down to the staple fret really stretches it out of tune!  I'm not sure if I should lower it or leave it as-is.  Any thoughts, my fellow historical luthiers?


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Stewart McCormick
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03/23/18 09:17:34PM
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Not to turn this into ESPN but... Biting nails right now!!!
Stewart McCormick
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03/23/18 09:08:00PM
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Haha, sorry if my messages sounded a little passive agressive! I was busy watching the KU game... I just re-read them... Thanks for the add!
Randy Adams
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03/23/18 09:01:57PM
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Whoops, I didn't realize I had 'pending followers'.
I approved all of them learn something new every day!
Robin Thompson
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03/23/18 07:57:34PM
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Stewart, I think you can send him a private message regardless of "Following" status. 

Stewart McCormick
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03/23/18 07:39:30PM
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He's only three hours away, my GF's father lives in Lincoln too...
Stewart McCormick
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03/23/18 07:38:23PM
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Mr. Randy needs to accept my ability to follow him!! Please and thank you! Promise I won't spam you with too many questions.
Robin Thompson
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03/23/18 07:34:23PM
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Sure, you need it for noter play!  ;) 

PS- Randy Adams is the dulcimer player I listen to most!  I've got a playlist.  :)

Stewart McCormick
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03/23/18 06:59:05PM
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Thanks Randy! And thanks Robin, I have been listening to a lot of your drone playing... So it only stood to reason that I needed a another dulcimer dedicated to noter/drone! At least that's what I'm going to tell the GF when it comes in, haha!
Stewart McCormick
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03/23/18 05:32:17PM
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Found this beauty online! Looks like poplar or pine? Hopefully with a little hide glue and TLC, and she will be my next dedicated Noter Dulcimer! What do you think?


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