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Stewart McCormick
@stewart-mccormick
11/10/17 06:38:58PM
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Fretboard Crack!!


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Purchased a beautiful dulcimer that needs a little TLC! It has a crack at the nut on the headstock, any suggestions on where to start when it comes in?
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Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
11/10/17 03:03:13PM
197 posts

Mel Bay's "Dulcimer Sessions" articles have all disappeared?


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Speaking as another Lois who has found Lois Hornbostel's arrangements worth seeking out, I'd like to ask if anybody has the address of the old site.  As a librarian I know a few tricks for navigating back into the internet after a website goes down, but will need to know that address.

Selah
@selah
11/09/17 11:52:22PM
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Suggested Strings for MD


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Ken Hulme:

Not too light.... a bit light.  But since you're playing bare finger chording and bare finger strumming, and are just getting started, the slightly reduced string tension will help your fingers.  I play Noter & Drone style, and would probably use a .022, .014 and .012 strings.  With experience you'll discover which strings work best for you.  Strings are cheap, and finding which strings work best for your style of play is part of learning the art of the dulcimer.

That .020 should be a wound string; the others should be plain steel.  The only other thing you need to know to buy or order strings is what kind of ends the existing strings have -- brass ball ends or plain loops.

Thank you, Ken! Great advice on trying different strings... I had one of those "I should have had a V-8!" moments when I read that! Of course! I'll pick several different ones and try them out. Figured out the loop or ball part too! Thank you so much! 

Selah
@selah
11/09/17 11:48:21PM
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Suggested Strings for MD


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Skip:

The strings recommended could be considered light so you could go to .022/023-.013/.014-.011/012. The lighter strings are easier to press down at the expense of a little volume. It doesn't really pertain to experience, but more to how the feel to your fingers and personal preference. 

Thank you for clarifying, Skip! That helps me a lot! I don't care as much about the volume right now as I do comfort while learning.. so thank you! 
Kusani
@kusani
11/09/17 10:25:04PM
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Suggested Strings for MD


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Selah, you are getting good advice and the members here are very knowledgable and have help me tremendously. From a personal perspective, I don't really care for the 'twang' or ''buzzing'/'squeal' you get when using a wound string.  It is a matter of personal preference.  

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/09/17 09:50:09PM
2,157 posts

Suggested Strings for MD


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Not too light.... a bit light.  But since you're playing bare finger chording and bare finger strumming, and are just getting started, the slightly reduced string tension will help your fingers.  I play Noter & Drone style, and would probably use a .022, .014 and .012 strings.  With experience you'll discover which strings work best for you.  Strings are cheap, and finding which strings work best for your style of play is part of learning the art of the dulcimer.

That .020 should be a wound string; the others should be plain steel.  The only other thing you need to know to buy or order strings is what kind of ends the existing strings have -- brass ball ends or plain loops.

Skip
@skip
11/09/17 09:47:39PM
389 posts

Suggested Strings for MD


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The strings recommended could be considered light so you could go to .022/023-.013/.014-.011/012. The lighter strings are easier to press down at the expense of a little volume. It doesn't really pertain to experience, but more to how the feel to your fingers and personal preference. 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
11/09/17 08:57:51PM
1,859 posts

Dulcimer Players News 1975-2012 Searchable On-line Archive


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 Thanks for the link, Ken. I was looking for this a while back and couldn't find it.

Selah
@selah
11/09/17 07:37:59PM
5 posts

Suggested Strings for MD


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Ken Hulme:

Go to www.strothers.com and enter your VSL -- the distance between nut and bridge.  Then enter the basic tuning that you are using -- DAA or DAd (not DAD or you'll get the wrong string size) one at a time --  and the calculator will do all the work for you.

Brand is irrelevant -- there are a literal handful of companies in the world which make music wire of various gauges, and they sell boxcar loads of the stuff to Martin, D'Addario, D'Arco and other string "manufacturers" who put on the ends (ball or loop), cut the string to various lengths, and put them in packages.  It's all the same wire, regardless of the name on the package.

Personally I buy strings from www.juststrings.com because I can buy sets of strings for under $3 per set instead of the $5 to $8 you pay for brand name strings from a music shop. 

When it comes time to replace the strings, only remove and change one string at a time.  If you remove them all, you stand a chance of moving the location of the bridge, which can really mess up how your dulcimer sounds...

Thank you, Ken! I did go and use the calculator... results were 0.20  / 0.13 / 0.10  for DAd    Skip mentioned below that the results may be too light.  Any thoughts? I appreciate all your help! 

Selah
@selah
11/09/17 07:34:54PM
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Suggested Strings for MD


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Skip:

This will help. The results are a bit light so you can increase the size a couple of sizes. You should be aable to find single strings at a local music shop.


http://www.strothers.com/string_choice.html



Thank you, Skip! That helps a lot...  Can you help me to understand your comment about the strings being light? Are you saying a thicker string would be better as a newbie? or just in general. (totally green here!) thanks!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/09/17 07:33:25PM
2,157 posts

Dulcimer Players News 1975-2012 Searchable On-line Archive


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David Bennet posted this on ED the other day.  The archive was on-line somewhere else a few years ago, and disappeared.  Now it's on ISSUU:

https://issuu.com/dulcimerplayersnewsinc/stacks

 


updated by @ken-hulme: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/09/17 07:28:30PM
2,157 posts

Suggested Strings for MD


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Go to www.strothers.com and enter your VSL -- the distance between nut and bridge.  Then enter the basic tuning that you are using -- DAA or DAd (not DAD or you'll get the wrong string size) one at a time --  and the calculator will do all the work for you.

Brand is irrelevant -- there are a literal handful of companies in the world which make music wire of various gauges, and they sell boxcar loads of the stuff to Martin, D'Addario, D'Arco and other string "manufacturers" who put on the ends (ball or loop), cut the string to various lengths, and put them in packages.  It's all the same wire, regardless of the name on the package.

Personally I buy strings from www.juststrings.com because I can buy sets of strings for under $3 per set instead of the $5 to $8 you pay for brand name strings from a music shop. 

When it comes time to replace the strings, only remove and change one string at a time.  If you remove them all, you stand a chance of moving the location of the bridge, which can really mess up how your dulcimer sounds...

Skip
@skip
11/09/17 07:23:32PM
389 posts

Suggested Strings for MD


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This will help. The results are a bit light so you can increase the size a couple of sizes. You should be aable to find single strings at a local music shop.

http://www.strothers.com/string_choice.html

Selah
@selah
11/09/17 07:06:05PM
5 posts

Suggested Strings for MD


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Hello. I would like to replace the strings on my new-to-me dulcimer... I noticed a few of the strings have a small amount of rust. I am not sure how old these strings actually are so I figured best to start out with new ones. Anyway I would love to hear recommendations for strings... Brand and size would be helpful. My dulcimer has a 26.5" fret board from nut to bridge.  I am learning chords and picking with just my fingers and not using a noter or pick, plus I'm a newbie player, if that matters any also. Thank you in advance for your thoughts on the subject! ~ Selah

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
11/09/17 03:53:36PM
1,859 posts

Mel Bay's "Dulcimer Sessions" articles have all disappeared?


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Back in July I sent an email to Lois Hornbostel asing about this issue and suggesting that if Mel Bay was no longer willing to host the Dulcimer Sessions material we could find another site to do so.  Just today I received this brief reply: "I'm working on it."

Let's hope she succeeds.

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
11/06/17 05:57:31PM
229 posts

Your "Dream Dulcimer?


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Well I have 3 of my dream dulcimers, now there is just one more which is a hogfiddle by Bobby Ratcliff.

Then a TMB by John Knopp would be nice.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
11/06/17 01:15:23PM
1,565 posts

A tune that's out of reach


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I've learned over the years how helpful it is to figure out the essence of a tune, what is tune at its most basic form.  The necessity of working on this skill became clear when I was honest with myself about my own limitations as a player.  

Mark said if you'd like to send an mp3 of you on PAR, he'll put back-up to it.  Just let me know.  :)

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
11/06/17 12:22:01PM
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A tune that's out of reach


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Robin, it's a skill, isn't it, to be able to hear the essence of a melody without all the clutter? And fiddles add a lot of clutter, that's for sure.  I sometimes examine several examples of sheet music for a tune I'm working on.  By looking at what they all have in common, you can sometimes isolate the core of a tune. Sometimes when I hear a fiddle tune I feel like the Austrian Emperor in the film Amadeus, who tells Mozart that his music has "too many notes."

Maybe you can lend me Mark for 15 or 20 minutes.  A guitar accompaniment to my flatpicking version of "Pig Ankle Rag" would help out a lot (and maybe hide some of the imprecision in my picking). If I knew how to do even basic home recordings I would record my own guitar rhythm track, but I have no idea how to do that.  Poor, poor ignorant me.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
11/06/17 11:19:23AM
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A tune that's out of reach


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Dusty, I look forward to hearing your Pig Ankle Rag!  I've heard it played on hammered dulcimer but don't recall having heard it on mountain dulcimer.

I've been thinking on Cattle In the Cane this morning.  First, I need to experiment with tunings to get an appriate key.  Then, since I'm dealing with a real fiddle-y tune (lots of notes), I'll work on the process of subtracting notes because there's no way I'll duplicate what a fiddle is doing.  

Gale A Barr
@gale-a-barr
11/05/17 02:38:34PM
37 posts

Your "Dream Dulcimer?


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My dream dulcimer at this point ... a large body , shorter scale VSL (25"), with false bottom - want the volume! happys  Built in pickup and chromatic setup. Wood, I am flexible but ebony fretboard would be nice.  Played a McCafferty dulcimer at Evart with a lot of these features - nice but open to suggestions....

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
11/05/17 02:30:15PM
1,859 posts

A tune that's out of reach


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This is a good topic for conversation, Robin.  Thanks for posting.  I may indeed have multiple responses.

There are lots of tunes that I would love to play but don't really "hear" yet on my dulcimer.  But there are also a couple I've been working on a really long time. I've been practicing "Pig Ankle Rag" for a few years now.  It took a while just to figure out all the notes for both the A and B parts.  Then it took a while to figure out the syncopated rhythms. But I've been playing the tune for a long time, just working on getting it smoother and cleaner.  Someday I hope to post a version that I'm happy with.  But playing the song is also just a great flatpicking workout, so even if I never get the tune ready for prime time, I know my technique is improving as I keep working on it.  My pinky in particular has been strengthened immensely by trying to play the tune.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
11/05/17 11:04:16AM
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A tune that's out of reach


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


I've loved the tune Cattle in the Cane for years!  Betty Vornbrock of the Reed Island Rounders fiddles it beautifully.  And on their cd Hell up Coal Holler, Gerry Milnes (fiddle) & Lorraine Lee Hammond (Appalachian dulcimer) play a really nice version of the tune.  

Right now, the tune feels out of reach for me. . . Maybe someday I'll work up a noter/drone version.  

Do any of y'all have any out-of-reach tunes now that you hope to figure-out someday?  

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
11/05/17 05:44:28AM
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Does anyone recognize this maker?


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That is quite distinctive.  And I don't recall having seen the exact form on a mountain dulcimer before. 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/04/17 02:48:04PM
2,157 posts

Does anyone recognize this maker?


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My bad description -- it is a deep grooved circle in the scroll end of the head.  Easy to make with a router and some router-experience.

No maker's label inside?  

JenniferC
@jenniferc
11/04/17 12:58:34PM
36 posts



Lisa, I really like the tone of mine, too. It's also much more responsive than the Walton whistle I have.
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/04/17 10:28:06AM
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I have a Dixon Trad brass in D too, Jennifer.  I really like the 'temple bell'-like tone it has, don't you?  It sounds prettier to me than for example the Generation brass whistles I have.

Kusani
@kusani
11/04/17 09:08:01AM
134 posts



Thanks Ken, easy way for the novice builder to work with sound hole design. 

 

Curtis Carlisle Bouterse
@curtis-carlisle-bouterse
11/04/17 02:24:50AM
15 posts

Does anyone recognize this maker?


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A closer view may clarify. The scroll is not a spiral but a concentric ring; it tapers dramatically from 36mm to 6mm. I will defer to your experience but I have not seen one anything like this.

https://www.banjohangout.org/photo/230369.

[I tried loading pix directly but when I tried both JPEG and PDF it said it had to be in JPEG or PDF format. IOW, it didn't recognize my formats.]

Tony Karl
@tony-karl
11/04/17 12:07:52AM
4 posts

Your "Dream Dulcimer?


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My current dream instrument  is a Mike Clemmer, church dulcimer with butternut top on walnut body. Thanks for your attention 

JenniferC
@jenniferc
11/03/17 11:52:22PM
36 posts



It's definitely a different animal, lol. I have a Dixon trad brass in d.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/03/17 11:16:47PM
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Does anyone recognize this maker?


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To me those scrolls aren't particularly distinctive.  I've seen a lot of builders make that sort of 'grooved scroll'.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/03/17 11:14:02PM
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It's not square inches of sound hole per X amount of surface area... the equation uses the volume of the instrument, not the surface area, so the shape of the instrument is irrelevant  -- hourglass, teardrop, box, little brown jug, bowed psaltery, violin, etc.   For dulcimers I use, as a rough guide, the area of 4 American quarter coins  -- not as much as 6, not as few as 3.

Kusani
@kusani
11/03/17 07:34:01PM
134 posts



Ken, can you share you thoughts regarding number of sq. " per surface area of the top of the instrument? For example hourglass shape will have different surface area than a teardrop....possibly...


updated by @kusani: 11/03/17 07:35:36PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/03/17 04:53:56PM
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The shape of the soundhole(s) is irrelevant.  It's the square area of holes that matters.  Too little soundhole area and the instrument is muted.  Too much soundhole area and the instrument sounds "brash".  There's a complex formula called the Helmholtz Equation where you can calculate all this is you like partial differential equations.  But most of us just say want 2-3 square inches of sound hole area for a 'good' sound.  

You can certainly do leaves -- Cripple Creek was famous for their Aspen leaf holes -- and any decent luthier will know how many leaves to get the right sound...

I once built a replica Baltic Psaltery, on which the original instrument had just over 100 soundholes arranged in a spiral design, each hole was a hair less that 1/8" diameter....

Curtis Carlisle Bouterse
@curtis-carlisle-bouterse
11/03/17 12:17:48AM
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Does anyone recognize this maker?


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I bought this from a seller in VA; the scroll looks distinctive enough to be identifiable. Any guesses? https://www.banjohangout.org/photo/230317
marg
@marg
11/02/17 11:07:10PM
624 posts

etiquette with dulcimers


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(Any sales transaction should have return terms made clear before the purchase.)

Makes sense & many times so over looked.

Thanks for all the info, I will pass it on to the group I am with, since it's not something we knew.

Strumelia
@strumelia
11/02/17 05:55:53PM
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etiquette with dulcimers


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Any sales transaction should have return terms made clear before the purchase.  That's true for online purchases, retail stores, and yes even between friends.

Always find out seller's return policy before buying or commissioning any instrument, new or used!

Why?  Because 'etiquette' is not legally binding in any way.. and it also varies tremendously.  There is no standard policy for returns- different people/sellers all have different return policies... or no returns at all sometimes.
Paypal will usually help you if the item was damaged or misrepresented.  But if it's a just matter of you changing your mind and the seller doesn't want it shipped back and had not stipulated a return policy, then paypal might not get involved.  If the seller did not mention any return policy at all, then they have a right to say 'no returns' after the sale is complete. Unless they misrepresented the item or its condition.

As a buyer, you should ask for the return policy to be spelled out in writing if it's not already.  Before money changes hands.  We are talking about significant amounts of money here!


updated by @strumelia: 11/02/17 06:38:13PM
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