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paula
@paula
03/02/25 02:26:17PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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So Steve, I see a picture of that on The Mountain Dulcimer Lore FB page. Very nice!

paula
@paula
03/02/25 02:08:33PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Wow, thanks Steve! I’m really excited to actually lay hands on the dulcimer. From the looks of the photos I’ve got, I think it had been strung equidistantly.

cheers,

paula

cairney
@steve-c
03/02/25 01:46:39PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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I would guess your instrument is from the 1960's the lack of an area code on the card might indicate that.

cairney
@steve-c
03/02/25 01:44:08PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Paula, I am a member of the Mountain Dulcimer Society of Dayton so don't be surprised if they refer you to me.  I own Chet's Hogfiddle pictured in Jean Ritchies Dulcimer People book.  Ron will be the best resource for you though, as he worked on many instruments with Chet.  There is an article in an old Dulcimer Player News about Ron and he recounts those years with Chet.  

Chet also appeared on the Grand Ole Opry and gifted a dulcimer to Roy Acuff.  

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/02/25 11:38:32AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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cairney:

I have photos but can’t seem to figure out how to post them here.


 

Try looking at these threads... (it depends on if you are trying to add a photo to a discussion post, or to your profile gallery):


https://fotmd.com/forums/forum/site-questions-how-do-i

paula
@paula
03/02/25 11:37:32AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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It looks like to Mountain Dulcimore Society was founded in 1965 I assume the card included in the case with my dulcimer would date my dulcimer to being from sometime around that. I’m not sure at what point the MDS changed their name. So I at least have a broad range of between say 1964 and his death in 1977. 


updated by @paula: 03/02/25 11:39:09AM
paula
@paula
03/02/25 11:29:11AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Wow. So young. Thank you so much Steve for this additional information. I’ll be curious to see if I can determine a date for my dulcimer. I’ve reached out to the dulcimer society of Dayton (the current iteration of the Mountain Dulcimore Society) to see if they have any additional information but I haven’t heard back yet. 

(I’d try to help you with posting pictures but I’m clearly doing something wrong regarding size)

cairney
@steve-c
03/02/25 10:52:56AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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I have photos but can’t seem to figure out how to post them here.

cairney
@steve-c
03/02/25 10:49:44AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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November 26, 1977 dulcimore maker and historian Chester “Chet Hines” (1921-1977) died of a heart attack while on vacation in Florida at age 56. Chet was born on March 21, 1921.

He was a retired physicist and engineer from Wright-Patterson Airforce Base.
Hines helped found what is believed to be the first dulcimer society/club in America, The Dulcimer Society of Dayton. He also founded the Mountain Dulcimer Society of America in 1965. In 1971 Hines represented Ohio at the Festival of American Folklife, held by the Smithsonian Institution.
Hines was first exposed to the dulcimore at age 8. In 1935 Hines learned to play and build

the dulcimore from his grandfather near Chillicothe, Ohio. He started building dulcimers to sell in 1948 and in 1973 published his book on How to Make and Play the Dulcimore.
Hines appeared on the Grand Ole Opry and one of his dulcimores was in the Roy Acuff collection in Opry Land.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/01/25 07:37:25PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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That is a beautiful dulcimer. It looks like the case needs a little repair. I'm sure you'll enjoy it when you pick it up. 

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

paula
@paula
03/01/25 02:33:40PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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I apologize. I’m not sure why my photos are posting so large. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong. 

paula
@paula
03/01/25 02:12:25PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Hi Steve!

thanks for the great information. Given how influential Mr Hines was in establishing the Dulcimer Society in Ohio, I’m surprised there’s so little information I’ve been able to find. 

I’m assuming that he’s probably deceased at this point but I haven’t been able to find an obituary. 

I’ll reach out to Ron Ewing and the dulcimer society and see if they can supply additional information. 

the dulcimer came in a homemade wooden casket case and had several business cards with it. 

I still haven’t seen the dulcimer in person as I live in Europe now. I had it delivered to my in-laws house in Texas  I’ll pick it up when I’m next in the US  

hopefully I can find a date or serial number inside  

thanks again,

paulaoriginal original

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/01/25 12:25:55PM
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International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Both days are permanently on my calendar.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

cairney
@steve-c
03/01/25 11:38:35AM
92 posts

Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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I have a ton of information for you.  Chet Hines was born in Chillicothe, Ohio and built his first Dulcimore with his grandfather in 1935.  He wrote one of the early books on the history and building of the Dulcimore.  Published in 1973.  Ron Ewing was his assistant.  He also started the American Dulcimore Society in the 1960’s. It eventually became The Mountain Dulcimer Society of Dayton, Ohio the longest continuous and likely the oldest dulcimer society in the country.  

Janis Lewman
@janis-lewman
03/01/25 11:05:35AM
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International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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That event is a new one to me.  Glad I noticed.  I was only aware of the International Play Music On the Porch day which is always last Saturday in August each year.  Thanks for the nudge.

Janis Lewman
@janis-lewman
03/01/25 10:26:10AM
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Understanding McSpadden Model Number


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Several years ago I asked McSpadden for a cheat-sheet for their model numbering codes.  Their response is attached:


McSpadden model codes.pdf - 150KB
Strumelia
@strumelia
02/28/25 09:00:44PM
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Music for Kalimba, Dulcimer & Modular Synthesizer


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Damon, I enjoyed hearing that music you created and watching your fishing video where you put the two together. Nice work.

Damon
@damon
02/28/25 02:13:07PM
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Music for Kalimba, Dulcimer & Modular Synthesizer


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

The first instance of the dulcimer comes in at 9:38.

Damon
@damon
02/28/25 01:57:27PM
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Music for Kalimba, Dulcimer & Modular Synthesizer


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks, these modular synths go all the way back to the atomic bomb experiments. After the war someone had the bright idea to turn all those oscillators and such into musical instruments. Therefore, modular synthesizers developed at about the same time as the revival/contemporary mountain dulcimer, circa 1940s for so.

Yeah, the dulcimer comes in much later. It's all meant to be integrated so that you can't really tell what instrument is playing.

DavisJames
@davisjames
02/28/25 01:28:26PM
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Music for Kalimba, Dulcimer & Modular Synthesizer


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Wow,I couldn't hear the dulcimer so much-the synth part was great,tickled my ears.I'm the rowboat generation (yeah,pretty old) ...enjoyed that.

...

Damon
@damon
02/28/25 08:29:50AM
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Music for Kalimba, Dulcimer & Modular Synthesizer


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I recorded this about a week ago. It's an original composition of mine where I experiment with using acoustic instruments for control a modular synthesizer. I also use these tracks in my fishing videos on YouTube:

Complete track: Music for Kalimba, Dulcimer and Modular Synthesizer

Here how the music is used in my fishing videos:


updated by @damon: 02/28/25 08:30:09AM
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
02/27/25 02:10:37PM
1,496 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Indeed, it is, @dusty !

I hope to see folks from many countries celebrating an instrument we all love! 


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/27/25 06:30:12PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/27/25 11:43:14AM
1,808 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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How could we ever forget? It's the best day of the year! mrdance

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
02/26/25 08:07:05PM
1,496 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Just a little reminder about International Appalachian Dulcimer Day.  dulcimer

paula
@paula
02/24/25 10:52:08AM
17 posts

Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Hi all, it’s been a while since I posted here. We moved to to Portugal several years ago and I has sold my dulcimer before we left. (I seriously had to this the herd!)

im getting ready to have a visit back to Texas and that led me to taking a look on eBay to see if there might be an interesting MD to pick up to bring home with me when I return to Portugal. 

i ended up bidding on (and winning) this “dulcimore” by Chet Hines. I think at some point I had borrowed a copy of his book “How to Make and Play the Dulcimore” (1973) from the library. He was also the founder of the Mountain Dulcimer Society in Dayton, Ohio. 

other than that I haven’t been able to find a huge amount about him or his instruments. I’m assuming my dulcimer is from the ‘70s. 

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Any additional information anyone might have would be appreciated. I haven’t actually picked up the dulcimer yet. I’ll be retrieving it from my in-laws in Texas in April. 

thanks,

paula


updated by @paula: 02/24/25 11:00:26AM
Susie
@susie
02/24/25 07:18:42AM
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McSpadden 26" VSL Walnut w/ Micarta Fretboard - Ex. Cond.


FOR SALE:instruments/music items/CDs/Wanted to Buy...

Price drop to $420. dulcimer

Listed locally, too.


updated by @susie: 02/24/25 10:49:58AM
Skip
@skip
02/23/25 02:22:23PM
368 posts

Question about the 6 1/2 fret


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The MD is a ' Modal ' based instrument, not a ' key ' based one. I think theory has 'diatonic scale' [and its naming conventions] being based on the Ionian Mode and the remaining modes being a reordering of the the Ionian mode. The nut/zero fret sets up the Mixolydian pattern. Fret three sets up the start of the Ionian pattern. Each fret sets up another mode. 

This leads me to conclude that, basically:

CDEFGABC is a diatonic scale with its attendant naming conventions, and

DEFGABCD is a modal scale [Dorian] without the naming conventions. I'm wrong probably, but it keeps things simple for me.shrugger winker

Addition of the 6 1/2/13 1/2 permits the Ionian mode to start at the nut/0 fret.

Cristian Huet
@cristian-huet
02/23/25 11:27:41AM
5 posts

Optimum spacing for the two melody strings


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Wally Venable:

"3 mm is ok., 2,8 or 2,9 mm too."

Adding the metric measurement is good. We should remember that "The Appalachian Dulcimer" covers the world today, and that we should routinely mention both American and SI units.

Many of us are used to thinking 1/4 inch plywood is 6mm and 3mm ply is 1/8 inch.  Actually 1/8 inch is 3.175 (3,175) mm, so "by eyeball" we are talking about the same dimension, making 2,8 mm a bit narrow for some of us.

 

Yes
:-)
2,8 is a little bit narrow. but on the short vsl it's working. 3 mm is better.
Wally Venable
@wally-venable
02/23/25 11:16:51AM
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Optimum spacing for the two melody strings


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"3 mm is ok., 2,8 or 2,9 mm too."

Adding the metric measurement is good. We should remember that "The Appalachian Dulcimer" covers the world today, and that we should routinely mention both American and SI units.

Many of us are used to thinking 1/4 inch plywood is 6mm and 3mm ply is 1/8 inch.  Actually 1/8 inch is 3.175 (3,175) mm, so "by eyeball" we are talking about the same dimension, making 2,8 mm a bit narrow for some of us.

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/23/25 09:44:31AM
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to get chromatic or not


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I just reread this 2 year old thread from the beginning- it's got so many wonderful points of view and insights from knowledgeable folks. A good read!

Cristian Huet
@cristian-huet
02/23/25 06:36:04AM
5 posts

Optimum spacing for the two melody strings


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3 mm is ok., 2,8 ou 2,9 mm too.
If too large between the 2 strings, they can move away from each other when playing

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/22/25 06:53:59PM
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Question about the 6 1/2 fret


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@overdrive, please note that your description of frets and scale positions only holds true if the open string is the tonic.  In traditional dulcimer playing, different tunings are used for different modes, and the tonic changes depending on the tuning.  So yes, in DAd (mixolydian) the tonic is the open string. But in DAA (ionian) the tonic is found at the 3rd fret.  In DAC (aeolian) the tonic is found at the 1st fret.  Basically, the pattern of whole and half steps in the scale or mode determines where on the fretboard you find the tonic.

I suspect that the 6+ fret was added so that you could get the two "major" sounding modes (ionian & mixolydian) out of a single tuning (1-5-8 or DAd).  I doubt people started tuning more in DAd than DAA simply because they wanted to play a small number of mixolydian tunes all the time.

And as people started playing chords and fretting across all the strings, DAd offers a greater melodic range (three notes worth!) out of a single chord position than does DAA.  Chording in DAA sounds more concise and coherent to my ear, but it requires a lot more hand movement to play in a basic chord/melody style.

OverDrive
@overdrive
02/22/25 05:10:10PM
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Question about the 6 1/2 fret


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I've been thinking about the fret numbers we use as it relates to the diatonic tuning that comes on a dulcimer.

Each fret is essentially a scale degree, so the nut is 1, tonic, not zero. "Fret 1" is the major second. "Fret 2" is the major third, "Fret 3" is major fourth, and so on.  A "6.5 Fret" gives us the major seventh of the Ionian. Our "Fret 6" is the flat seventh for Mixolydian. 

Is it too late to rename the frets?  Why was Mixolydian the standard scale?  Because Old Joe Clark? Has anybody fretted up a dulcimer as a dedicated Dorian instrument?  That would be a beautiful thing!  The extra fret would make it work for Aeolian tunes.

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