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Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
05/19/21 05:31:09PM
197 posts

Rosin the Beau and recycling melodies for new songs


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

<Chuckle!>  I've always figured it was a pun on rosining the bow from the start.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
05/19/21 05:17:18PM
1,844 posts

Rosin the Beau and recycling melodies for new songs


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Hi @lois-sprengnether-keel.  Well you've demonstrate how you can do good history lesson using folks music.

The words we know to Old Rosin the Beau certainly makes it a drinking song, but I wonder if the song was not originally an instrumental simply called Rosin the Bow, and someone put some tongue-in-cheek lyrics to it, creating a song better known than the original.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
05/19/21 05:14:54PM
2,157 posts

What is this instrument?


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Aeolian or Wind Harp.  You set it across the width of the sill of an open window, and close the sash down almost on top of it, to funnel the breeze over the strings.  

Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
05/19/21 04:15:52PM
197 posts

Rosin the Beau and recycling melodies for new songs


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I do a program using the abolition song "Roll on the Liberty Ball" that was sung at the planting of the enormous cedar that was the marker (seen for miles) of the Underground Railroad Station operated by the family of the woman I portray (Liberetta Lerich Green).  Later when Civil War years near and I talk about the family's involvement in that & Lincoln's election, I use "Lincoln & Liberty, Too" -- his campaign song.  Both sets of lyrics to "Old Rosin the Beau" were by the abolitionist music group, The Hutchinson Family Singers.  I have 3 blog articles about them and Civil War music at  http://www.storytellingresearchlois.com/search/label/Hutchinson%20Family%20Singers .  The most recent (therefore the first shown) has a video of ex-Weaver, Ronnie Gilbert singing "Lincoln and Liberty, Too."  Personally I always found it funny singing to the tune of "Old Rosin the Beau" as the family's father was staunchly anti-alcohol, even salting the corn crop he sold to pay their part in an Underground Railroad fine paid by all members of the network.

I use the songs to tie together Liberetta's life story, fitting some incidents to verses, since a normal life, unlike fiction doesn't have an easy outline.  The song also has predictable repetition, encouraging audience participation.

Gooch Mountain Boy
@gooch-mountain-boy
05/19/21 04:06:29PM
6 posts

What is this instrument?


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It does look to be an Aeolian harp! Thanks for everyone’s help.

Looking forward to it being shipped and receiving it.

Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
05/19/21 03:53:53PM
197 posts

What is this instrument?


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Cool!  The name sounded familiar so I looked it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolian_harp .  You let the wind play it.

Gooch Mountain Boy
@gooch-mountain-boy
05/19/21 03:53:33PM
6 posts

What is this instrument?


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Now it’s really beginning to get interesting.

Found a Don Oblander who was the guitar player in 1967-1970 for a Beaverton, Oregon band called, Summer Blues Band and later called Chains of Illusion. He did some posting on a guitar forum and might possibly have been a luthier.

Would this be meant to play with hammers?

Gooch Mountain Boy
@gooch-mountain-boy
05/19/21 03:25:55PM
6 posts

What is this instrument?


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Found a couple of obits with the name but no info on a Don Oblander who made instruments. I’ve been searching for a couple of days and can’t find much info at all about this instrument.


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Pondoro
@pondoro
05/19/21 03:10:38PM
34 posts

What is this instrument?


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I've never seen one. Is Don Oblander still around on the internet?

Gooch Mountain Boy
@gooch-mountain-boy
05/19/21 01:55:46PM
6 posts

What is this instrument?


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Hello to all,

I just bought this instrument online because I really thought it was neat and interesting looking. I own two mountain dulcimers and like collecting musical instruments, especially wooden stringed instruments.  My question is, what is it?

It is almost 24” long. If identified, how should it be tuned?

thanks,


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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
05/19/21 10:51:28AM
1,844 posts

Rosin the Beau and recycling melodies for new songs


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Thanks, @ken-longfield and @ken-hulme. I should have know you two would be the first to join the conversation!

Having grown up in Boston, I've know the Charlie and the MTA song about as long as I've known the Longfellow poem about Paul Revere ("Listen my children and you shall hear . . . ").  Both were required material in elementary schools.

There are lots of one-offs, I assume.  I heard an old Scottish tune called "The Bold Princess Royal" that must have been the source of the melody for Sweet Betsy from Pike.

But so far you guys have confirmed my sense that Rosin the Beau has been used more than any other melody.

jost
@jost
05/18/21 05:26:19PM
77 posts

Edit audio descriptions without spamming the Home site


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Thanks Dusty and Strumelia. I think I will use the comments section and stop worrying :)


Dusty Turtle:
We have discussed getting rid of some of those boxes that show up when you upload an audio text since they are not displayed publicly.  I suppose we could also find a way for them to be shown, but since so few people use that feature it has never been an issue.


As somebody, who maintains servers for a living I can understand your attitude. My coworkers and I have to to some regular maintenance work (e.g. before the hard drive of the server gets full). Most of this stuff isn't a real hassle or just doesn't happen too often. If tasks  tends to repeats a lot we are looking for a way to make the server do the work for us :)

So: Although I think it would be good to hide the boxes it's propably not worth the hassle If they are not used by most people anyway. 

Regards, Jost.
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
05/18/21 03:04:09PM
1,314 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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Steven, if you are planning on using the bridge on I40 over the Mississippi, check to see if it is open. It has been closed due to a crack in a beam that supports one of the spans. Wouldn't want you to get wet.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
05/18/21 11:36:03AM
143 posts

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I'm taking the scenic route! Just have to make a left turn at the Mississippee, cross over at Nashville, and head north and east from there.....shrugger

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
05/18/21 08:18:09AM
2,157 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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I hope he's got big floaties for his wagon and oxen -- the Gulf of Mexico due East of Texas is kinda rough this time of year!confusey

Strumelia
@strumelia
05/18/21 08:08:06AM
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2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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Steven's gonna wind up in Florida and wonder where everyone is.  giggle2

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
05/17/21 08:59:30PM
143 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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Dan:
Steven Berger:

I'll be there with mask and vaccination card...don't forget to bring any necessary paperwork, folks...and a few dulcimores! Now I gotta get the oxen and wagon ready for the big trek...Wagons EAST!!!

You taking the scenic route, I thought it would be north?

Both east and north, Dan.
Dan
@dan
05/17/21 05:14:50PM
207 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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Steven Berger:

I'll be there with mask and vaccination card...don't forget to bring any necessary paperwork, folks...and a few dulcimores! Now I gotta get the oxen and wagon ready for the big trek...Wagons EAST!!!

You taking the scenic route, I thought it would be north?

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
05/17/21 03:03:35PM
143 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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I'll be there with mask and vaccination card...don't forget to bring any necessary paperwork, folks...and a few dulcimores! Now I gotta get the oxen and wagon ready for the big trek...Wagons EAST!!!

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
05/17/21 01:33:08PM
442 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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And I'll be packing my illustrious J. E. Thomas replica Cumberland dulcimore, which will be won by an attendee!  Plus a few other things of possible interest and/or sale.  Should be a great few days, folks!

Strumelia
@strumelia
05/17/21 01:23:26PM
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I agree with everything Dusty said!  pimento

No worries at all Jost.  The activity feed changes all day anyway as other things get added.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
05/17/21 11:43:47AM
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Hey @jost.  Well first of all, the people who worry about dominating the activity feed are never the ones who need to worry about dominating the activity feed, so think no more about that. The Moderators do have the ability to delete an item from the Activity Feed, and sometimes we do that when one person uploads several audio and video files and then edits them all, but in your case, a few items in that feed is nothing to worry about.  

We have discussed getting rid of some of those boxes that show up when you upload an audio text since they are not displayed publicly.  I suppose we could also find a way for them to be shown, but since so few people use that feature it has never been an issue.  In the meantime, you have two choices if you want to share lyrics. One is to put them in the description.  That will display, but will require significant scrolling on the part of the viewer.  The second is just to add another comment in which you put the lyrics.

Don't be ashamed. Just the fact that you posted your concern here shows you to be a good dulci-citizen. thumbsup

jost
@jost
05/17/21 10:14:24AM
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Hello everybody,

I uploaded an audio file and noticed that no lyrics where shown. I also noticed an typo in my description. Thus I edited the description and tried to move the lyrics to "audio text". Lyrics are still not displayed I guess that's just the way it is. I can live with it but will not enter the lyrics the next time. 

I'm however shocked that every edit ended up on the Home screen of fotmd. Is there any way I can  disable this kind of spam from me? If not might some of the moderators or admins remove them? 

I'm quite ashamed since this looks like a scream for attention (which it's not I assure you!) 

Best regards, Jost.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
05/17/21 10:09:38AM
1,314 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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I'll be there with my mask on as well. I'll have some dulcimores to exhibit and maybe some other stuff to show. I'll have a video projector with me if anyone has something they want to show that way.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
05/17/21 08:54:11AM
2,157 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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Registration is closed.  We have 34 attendees!  A good time will be had by all -- espcially watching Dan with his bells on!!poke

Lisa C
@lisa-c
05/16/21 06:13:25PM
12 posts

Randy Wilkinson tab book for Elizabethan Music


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I'm another person interested in a copy of Randy Wilkinson's Elizabethan Music for Dulcimer.  Thankfully became aware of him while enjoying the sendinthemusic.com 5/15/21 jam video; see 19:54 mark where "Gentle Maiden" tab is shared and attributed to Randy.  

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
05/16/21 09:44:38AM
2,157 posts

2021 Berea Traditional Dulcimore Gathering Details


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I don't know why, but last week Berea College requested that Gathering attendees either be vaccinated or have a negative Covid-19 test 72 hours before arrival.  We're sorry if this inconveniences some people and we understand if you choose not to attend because of the College's request.  But our goal is to keep everyone safe.


updated by @ken-hulme: 05/16/21 09:45:44AM
Jim Yates
@jim-yates
05/14/21 08:25:59PM
68 posts

Any banjo players out there?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I also enjoy Mary's banjo and dulcimer playing.
I'd like to share a banjo duet that AlKirby and I recorded alittle over a decade ago.  Al is playing Scruggs style and I'm playing clawhammer style.  Our friend the late Zeke Mazurek added some fiddleto the mix.  This was on our Sittin' In The Kitchen CD.
https://www.banjohangout.org/myhangout/media-player/audio_player2.asp?playlist=1201&musicid=



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Tom Walker
@tom-walker
05/14/21 07:17:46PM
1 posts

Any banjo players out there?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Yes! Play clawhammer banjo; enjoy Mary Z. Cox’s tasteful banjo playing.

Susie
@susie
05/14/21 08:20:26AM
515 posts

How Many Dulcimers Do You Own?


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I've enjoyed this thread. Thank you to everyone who shared. Whether you have 1 dulcimer or 10, we share a common love for this beautiful little wooden box with strings. 

Have fun! dulcimer

Susie
@susie
05/14/21 08:12:47AM
515 posts

New McSpadden Flatwater Dulcimers


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Congrats on your new Flatwater, ADK. From what I see, they look and sound great, and have a great price to boot. I think McSpadden has really filled a niche with these new dulcimers.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
05/13/21 02:09:25PM
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How is the COVID-19 coronavirus affecting you?


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@lisavb, I'm glad that you and yours have gotten vaccinated.  The mass vaccination site near us also operated very efficiently.  I'm not sure they were all so successful, though.

When my daughter's school shut down last spring, they initially said it was for a 4-day weekend to do a deep cleaning.  Then they canceled the next week of school and then the next.  No one understood at the time how long this would last.  We all thought it would "blow over," as you say.

I'll have to figure out the best way to accommodate both a small number of people live in person and a larger group spread around the world.  But one thing I can definitely conclude: dealing with the pandemic has strengthened rather than weakened the dulcimer community.  So many of our local groups had to stop meeting, but now we're connecting with so many more people spread around the country and the world.

LisavB
@lisavb
05/13/21 10:20:25AM
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That's exciting, Dusty!  I envision a world of at least hybrid.  One good thing to come out of this has been the online gatherings that have enabled long-distance participation.  I treasure my Jessica Comeau workshops.  People from all over the country--and outside the US, too!--join.  It's wonderful and I intend to participate as long as she holds them. 

As to live-streamed concerts...there is an annual jazzfest around here, and they took it online this year.  We "attended" a couple of concerts from the comfort of our living room.  And we enjoyed them very much.  Frankly, traffic and parking are a pain in the butt downtown, and with the live-stream, we didn't have to deal with any of that, just enjoy the concert!  We'd do it again even when things are normal.

Just got back from a nearly-a-week vacation.  Socially distanced, masked, take-out food only, rented a house, did a lot of driving backroads and photography (which is pretty socially distanced anyway).  We were 50% Pfizered at that point.  BF got his second shot Monday, I got mine yesterday afternoon.  It continues to boggle my mind that, a little over a year ago, I thought this would blow over in a couple of weeks, would be back in the office.  Still not in the office, no plans for it at this point, and I sure didn't envision visiting a mass vaccination center and looking forward to a set of shots.  The center we used is extremely well run.  Bang-zoom, you've been injected and you go sit out your 15 minutes while people keep an eye on you.  Very grateful for that center and everyone in it who makes it such a smooth (and even cheerful/pleasant!!) operation.

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
05/13/21 09:21:04AM
442 posts

What examples do you use to explain what a dulcimer is?


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"The mountaineer 'follers (follows) pickin' it' by means of a quill".

Dan
@dan
05/13/21 04:24:37AM
207 posts

What examples do you use to explain what a dulcimer is?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

The ‘dulcimore’ is a unique survival of antique musical instruments, and needs explanation. It is oblong, about thirty-four inches in length, with a width at its greatest of about six inches, becoming smaller at each end. Three strings reach from tip to tip, the first and second ones tuned to the same pitch, and the third one forms the bass string. Two octaves and a quarter are marked out upon the three-quarters of an inch piece of wood that supports, and is just under the strings on the top of the instrument. The Mountaineer “toilers pickin'” it by means of a quill, with which he strikes the three strings at the same time with his right hand, over the gap at the larger end, at the same time using in his left hand a small reed with which he produces the air, or his “single string variations.” The music of the dulcimore resembles that of the Scottish bag pipe, in that it is weird and strange. Under its spell one finds himself mysteriously holding communion with the gossamer-like manes of the long-departed souls of the palace of Lady Rowena Trevanion, of Tremaine. The dulcimore is rapidly becoming a thing of the past, because the Mountaineers are becoming ashamed’ of the musical instrument that stands, with many other things, on the dividing line between two civilizations. Only a few of them are extant. Within a few more years and this strange old relic of by-gone days will pass…..

The Kentucky Highlanders from a Native Mountaineer’s Viewpoint
by Josiah Henry Combs
J. L. Richardson and Co.
Lexington, KY 1913

...hope this helps!

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