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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/23/21 11:16:24PM
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How many tunings


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Marg, the short answer is that there are 12 possible keys to tune to for any specific tuning.

The important information in your question is the numbers to which you refer.  Those refer to scale positions of the notes.

Let's start with D and count the letters until we come back to D.

D = 1

E = 2

F# = 3

G = 4

A = 5

B= 6

C = 7

D = 8

So DAA is 1-5-5, DAC is 1-5-7, DAG is 1-5-4, and DAd is 1-5-8.  Those are the 4 main tunings we use. (Although I find the use of modal names for tunings to be confusing, in case you are wondering, 1-5-5 is Ionian, 1-5-8 is mixolydian, 1-5-4 is Dorian, and 1-5-7 is Aeolian.)

You can start on any note, not just D.  As you know, EBe and CGc are other 1-5-8 tunings.  But you could start on any note you want and arrange the strings in the same pattern.  Let's try F.

F = 1

G= 2

A = 3

Bb = 4

C = 5

D = 6

Eb = 7

F = 8

So a 1-5-8 tuning would be FCf.   A 1-5-5 tuning would be FCC.  A 1-5-4 tuning would be FCBb.  A 1-5-7 tuning would be FCEb.

There are twelve notes in the chromatic scale, and we could start this pattern on any of them, so each tuning can be used for any of the 12 keys.

However, in practice, folk, old-timey, bluegrass, or Celtic sessions usually stick to 4 main keys: C, D, G, and A.  So you might want to just ensure you know how to play in each of those keys rather than worry about the oddballs like Eb or F or Ab or whatever.

And remember that if you are tuned to the key of D, you can probably tune down to C or up to E, but any more than that you will probably need to change strings.

To your question about GGD, a "normal" 1-1-5 or Ionian tuning in G would be GDD.  So your GGD just uses two G drones instead.  But to figure out how to use that tuning in other keys, just count.

G = 1

A = 2

B= 3

C#= 4

D = 5

And we don't even have to go any higher.  Tune your bass and middle strings to whatever note you want, start on that letter as number 1 and count to 5.  That 5 will be the note you want for the melody string.

C, D, E, F, G, so in C, it would be CCG.  ABC#DE, so in A it would be AAE.

Again, if you know the alphabet and can count to 8, you can do this yourself.


updated by @dusty: 03/23/21 11:57:23PM
marg
@marg
03/23/21 10:50:19PM
620 posts

How many tunings


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


How many different tunings can go with the standard tabs of DAdd or DAA or DGD

Is there a list somewhere?

I would like to try a number of different tunings but not sure what they would be or what tab I could play with them. I know theirs  #'s 155,158 but I don't understand that, so looking for a list of tunings.

I know ones like CGc,  EBe & so on & play the DAd tabs

GGd I just hear the other day, so many I don't know - how would I find out the different tunings?

thanks


updated by @marg: 03/23/21 10:58:59PM
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
03/23/21 03:21:39PM
268 posts

McSpadden v. Folkcraft?


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

So good to hear. Enjoy your cherry McSpadden. She may get crabby on days you don't have time to give her the attention she craves.winker

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/23/21 11:46:09AM
1,281 posts

McSpadden v. Folkcraft?


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

I'm glad you are enjoying your McSpadden dulcimer. Having an instrument you love means you will want to play it often, and it sounds like this is true for you. Best wishes for your dulcimer journey.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/23/21 10:37:39AM
1,529 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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Wow, @rojo!  That back is stunningly beautiful!  So cool.

rojo
@rojo
03/23/21 10:34:45AM
18 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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Thanks Robin. It whiles away the 'lockdown' hours. 

Here is the back. Plenty left to do. 


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Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/23/21 10:32:34AM
1,529 posts

McSpadden v. Folkcraft?


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@lisavB Yay!  I am happy you love your McSpadden and understand having a mountain dulcimer which you feel is just the right fit in every way.  Enjoy!  

LisavB
@lisavb
03/23/21 10:26:16AM
58 posts

McSpadden v. Folkcraft?


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

I've been meaning to post/say this.  I am in love with my McSpadden (arrived in November).  Completely, totally, hopelessly.  I love the way she looks (that cherry wood grain! that micarta! those perfect frets!), the way she sounds, the way she plays.  I even love the smell of the wood itself.  Money well spent.  Thanks again to everyone who offered their advice (though I'm sure a Folkcraft would have been a wonderful choice as well) when I was hemming and hawing.  I get crabby on days I run out of time and can't play...  :)  

rojo
@rojo
03/23/21 10:02:41AM
18 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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Ok I'm going to try again via the add attachment button to post sound holes. Took it with the selfie camera lens hoping it would be small enough 


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Strumelia
@strumelia
03/22/21 09:16:49PM
2,376 posts

Indoor House Plants


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Someone's a bit ...sensitive perhaps?  giggle2

Etsy seems to be a good place to order little rooted plants and cuttings from smaller garden sites and individual sellers. I'm still waiting another week til my 2nd covid vaccine protection kicks in... at which time I need to go to a big garden center and get some soil and pots for my repotting plans here at home.

Meanwhile, I succumbed to temptation and ordered three new baby plants from etsy sellers. 
I got a "string of turtles" plant (a 3" pot with several rooted stem cuttings planted in it). Also ordered two hoyas- I've never had hoyas before but I hear that folks get obsessed with them. They look cool and put out trailing vines. The two baby hoyas i bought were Hoya 'retusa' and Hoya 'pubicalyx royal Hawaiian purple'. The plants should all get here within the next ten days or so, and the forecast looks kind. I don't expect them to look like much since they are little cutting babies or just baby plants.
All three of these new plants are going into hanging pots in front of our kitchen window, and my office window. I have not had any hanging indoor house plants since we bought this house 18 yrs ago, so that should be interesting.

jost
@jost
03/22/21 07:11:09PM
77 posts

Do you know benjo ?


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Doulce Amere:

Thank you for the link. Great ressource.


I agree, in India the bulbul tarang has still maintained the characteristics of the japanese original model : a typewriter with poor sound.




According to Ulricus the japanese instruments are actually examples of good craftmanship, the indian not so much. The idea to use piano keys and make them portable by making them their own suitcase is quite nice though.

Quote:

I put a video of Mohamad Delnavaz a iranian master of benju. He is permanently working with builders to improve the instrument.





Thanks, thats a cool video
Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
03/22/21 01:17:54PM
197 posts

Indoor House Plants


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@Strumelia dared to say "I think dogs are dumber and will eat quantities of poison stuff.  (sorry, couldn't resist! lololol!)  "  Spoken like a true cat person as it reflects the opinion cats so often show.  Yeah, you better fit that emoji & duck!

(Tempted to add an emoji, but it would be a shame to start another Cat & Dog war.)

Art S
@art-s
03/21/21 04:51:09PM
24 posts

Recommendations on capos


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Final not Fina ( I hate autocorrect)

Art S
@art-s
03/21/21 04:50:08PM
24 posts

Recommendations on capos


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This works fine. Fina. Version after two prototypes.


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Doulce Amere
@doulce-amer
03/21/21 03:41:13AM
4 posts

Do you know benjo ?


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Thank you for the link. Great ressource.

I agree, in India the bulbul tarang has still maintained the characteristics of the japanese original model : a typewriter with poor sound. However, in Balouchistan since it arrived 70 years ago the instrument has changed so much as regards esthetic but mostly building and sound that it has taken its place among the traditional instruments like sorud and ghaychak. Yesterday for No rouz, the persian new year, i watched a tv program showing traditional songs and music from all parts ot Iran and there was a balouch benjo in the middle. That's incredible such a new instrument has reached similar status into this traditional and renowned conservative culture !

I put a video of Mohamad Delnavaz a iranian master of benju. He is permanently working with builders to improve the instrument.


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jost
@jost
03/20/21 12:47:56PM
77 posts

Do you know benjo ?


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That's cool. Thanks for the video. Some photos of these instruments and it's japanese precedessor can be found on the page  of fellow FOTMD member Wilfried "ulricus" Ullrich: http://www.ulrich-instrumente.de/die-hummel/

According to him in 1906 japanese luthier/musician Goro Morita got funding by the imperial government for a research trip in Europe for western instruments (imho some kind of musical industrial espionage ;) ). Back home he started to build a kind of hummel/dulcimer by using typewriter keys: The  Taishokoto. Later these instruments came to India and Pakistan and evolved to the benjo and after second world war  to the bulbul tarang (sounding nightingale, these instruments have piano case and an integrated suitcase, quite handy, sadly the sound not so good according to ulricus).
If you can read German you find the details on Wilfrieds website with many photos.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/20/21 11:51:54AM
1,828 posts

What Are You Working On?


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Tom, since I'm not a beekeeper, I can't help you if you want a whole tune on that topic. 

My approach would be different and treat beekeeping as a metaphor. Maybe have the first verse about looking forward to springtime only to see that half your bees are gone.  Then the other verses would be about other things or people that have left.  One verse on bees, one on age taking about your athletic ability, one on your fruit tree drying up, on one a woman leaving. You get the point.

OR . . . instead of the theme being loss, it could be lots of work with no reward, so you put in all this work to keep bees and end up with no honey.  You lavish love and presents on your woman, and she leaves you.  You spend weeks building a garden, and the plants bear no fruit.  You spend weeks crushing grapes but they go straight to vinegar and you get no wine.  You spend a year of weekends rebuilding that '68 Mustang and someone steels it before you ever take it for a ride. That sort of thing.  The bee hive would still be the first verse and give the tune it's title: "Big Hive, No Honey."

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/20/21 10:08:25AM
1,529 posts

What Are You Working On?


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I can't help with song lyrics about bees & blues yet do know I love honey. sun

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/20/21 09:22:50AM
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Indoor House Plants


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I worried about my cats at first Lois, and that's actually why until recently I kept mostly cactus and spiny succulents, which the cats really avoid. However, a lot of those plants included in "poisonous" lists would have to be eaten in large quantity to cause any serious effect. And some of them just cause stomach ache or vomiting.
My cats will investigate a new houseplant but they just bite down on a leaf once or twice to test it, leaving pinholes. They don't seem at all interested in actually eating any leaves, and after one or two teeth tests they leave the plants alone. They've got better stuff to eat, plus they much prefer their catnip treats!

I think dogs are dumber and will eat quantities of poison stuff.  (sorry, couldn't resist! lololol!)  duck

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/20/21 09:14:05AM
2,376 posts

What Are You Working On?


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Hmmm... how about something using "scrapin that propolis off bee metropolis"?

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/20/21 08:50:46AM
2,376 posts

What Are You Working On?


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I can't help you much with the song writing Tom, but I feel your pain concerning pouring money into your hives!

I've kept bees for over 12 years now, and just recently I downsized from FIVE 10-frame double-deep hives, to TWO 8-frame double deep hives. As i got older those ten frame boxes were getting too darn heavy!  I also find that losses have slowly increased each winter for me. I never had to buy bees years ago. Now the past two winters I've lost both hives and had to order packages. Cleaning dead hives up before installing a new colony is a nasty chore but must be done if I don't want all the frames and boxes permanently 'glued' together.
This Spring's packages will arrive in about a month and I'll have some hive cleanup and scraping to do before then. sigh Truthfully, though I love having lots of honey and love having bees buzzing around my garden, each year I do feel closer to getting out of it altogether.

Susie
@susie
03/20/21 08:43:39AM
510 posts

Do you know benjo ?


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Wow, that is beautiful! Thanks for sharing.

Doulce Amere
@doulce-amer
03/20/21 07:02:55AM
4 posts

Do you know benjo ?


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Benjo or balouch banjo. This is rather a dulcimer (zither family) than a banjo obviously.

Dispite the appearances benjo is not a traditional instrument but fairly new in the Balouchistan area and its folk music. It was certainly introduced in Pakistan from Japan, and developed from a toy instrument called taishogoto. Here's a video of Nasim Ali Baloch a master of this instrument. Enjoy.

Tom McDonald
@tom-mcdonald
03/20/21 01:15:05AM
26 posts

What Are You Working On?


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I'm working on a blues song about bees and beekeeping, and could use some help.

One of my tasks at this time of year is getting new bees to replace winter losses. Opening up the top of my hives and basically pouring money in the top to keep them going provided my inspiration. I'm down by half this year, an improvement over the 80% hit I took last year. And a lot of practical beekeeping seems to consist of stacking heavy boxes while trying to keep from getting stung. So there are things to be blue about.

That, and I need some new material.  Maybe "Hive Beetle Blues" or "Varrora Mite Blues." My bees done left me, I'm so sad... stuff like that.

I've got the idea, but nothing much beyond that and I'm stuck. If some of you could contribute a verse or even some phrases in the comments that I could work up I'd be grateful. Here is a song about one of the many times they fouled up my paycheck at work, just to give you an idea of what I've got in mind. Thanks so much for your help.


Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/19/21 03:11:26PM
1,828 posts

Virtual Festivals--what's your experience, or your thoughts?


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A link to a time conversion site is probably safer and more practical than demanding that festival organizers list every possible time.  After all, even in the U.S. things are pretty complicated with some states not doing daylight savings time and other states being split between time zones. I was once an hour early for an online dulcimer concert from British Columbia because the time listed was Pacific Daylight Time when they meant Pacific Standard Time.  I think it best if organizers just list the local times and then suggest that everyone to use the link to a time conversion site to determine their own times.

But I do hope organizers of online festivals realize that people outside their time zone might be interested in attending.  When a festival on the east coast runs workshops on Fridays and Saturdays, those of us who work are already unable to attend half the workshops.  Then if things run from 9:00 to 5:00 local time, many of us are unable to attend half the Saturday workshops because they start too early (I don't mind playing the dulcimer at 6:00 AM, but I don't think my family appreciates it!).  So what is advertised as a 2-day festival is really a half-day festival for many of us.  There is no reason folks in New York or West Virginia can't have some workshops as late as 8:00 PM, and they'd get more folks from the west coast that way.

Skip
@skip
03/19/21 02:40:32PM
372 posts

Virtual Festivals--what's your experience, or your thoughts?


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It seem to me the 'when' needs a lot emphasis, like a larger text font, in color, no abbreviations and possibly other attention gathering techniques. It may help to include a link to a time conversion site. The 'when' is probably the most important piece of information I use to plan things. 

Pondoro
@pondoro
03/19/21 11:58:32AM
34 posts

Virtual Festivals--what's your experience, or your thoughts?


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If event promoters want to be really smart they could post a schedule that said, "3PM EST, 2PM CST, etc." Even "9 PM Continental Europe" I promise that if 20 people want to attend a specific event at least one of them will misjudge the time zone, I have done it! I have worked with people in Italy and Poland for 20 years, I can convert Eastern time to Europe in my sleep. I have relatives in Central. But Mountain Time and Pacific Time still mess with my head.

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/19/21 11:53:17AM
2,376 posts

Virtual Festivals--what's your experience, or your thoughts?


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Lois Sprengnether Keel:

The time difference can be a help or hindrance.  An online time converter is worth checking before deciding on workshops or concerts.

Excellent point, Lois! People sometimes don't think of these things.

Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
03/19/21 11:26:46AM
197 posts

Virtual Festivals--what's your experience, or your thoughts?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

The time difference can be a help or hindrance.  An online time converter is worth checking before deciding on workshops or concerts.

Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
03/19/21 10:59:10AM
197 posts

Indoor House Plants


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Knowing how cats love to nibble plants, this is worth checking: Poisonous Plants to Dogs and Cats .  (Can't have cats anymore, but am grateful my allergies don't prevent me from visiting and enjoying them.)

I'd love to know the thoughts of the husky in the final photo as he's looking at a plant.  My own "malamutt" (husky/malamute) prowls for anything possibly edible when he comes in, but fortunately has never been interested in plants.  He's more likely to eat something on the trail.  He stops when I shout out, but catching him before going after something can be hard.  These types of dogs tend to POUNCE!

This almost fits the "Show Us Your Pets" forum, but figure it's worth checking before acquiring or choosing the spot for your houseplants.

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/18/21 09:30:21PM
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Indoor House Plants


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Taking care of other living things like plants is good medicine for the soul, plus it's just plain 'good karma'.   :)

When I was a kid I couldn't get enough taking care of little pets, plants, insects, etc.  I think it helped make me into a kinder human. It's also a wonderful way to learn cool stuff about nature and science! 
I'm glad this year of quarantine has re-inspired my interests in indoor plants. Several of my indoor cacti/succulents I've had for 13 or 14 years, and a couple of them really deserve a repotting now. I have 16 plants in the house right now, and plan to revamp a couple of window areas to accommodate a few more, especially in my little upstairs office.

I've had many houseplants during my life, but this is my first monstera deliciosa. I'm so impressed, I've decided it should be crowned the Queen of Houseplants. It's majestic.  worthy

The white-variegated monsteras like the one shown in Lois' article can actually sell for hundreds of dollars these days for a good plant with lots of white patches or half-white leaves, and just a clipping of a good one can cost $50 or $100 or more. what
Luckily, I really like my all green one, I find the all green to be more visually serene and jungle like. Today it unfurled its very first leaf that has four splits on each side . (the leaves they produce will have more splits as the plant gets older... the baby monsteras often have no splits showing at all yet) Up til this new leaf, my plant's 'splittiest' big leaf had four on one side and three on the other. I still have to name this monstera. I think it's good to name the plants that are either big or have lots of character.


updated by @strumelia: 03/19/21 07:58:15AM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/18/21 09:13:57PM
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Thanks for sharing that, Lois.  I pointed out to my daughter that the title refers to "a" plant, not 15 of them.

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/18/21 08:21:34AM
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Just got my 2nd covid vaccine the day before yesterday. I can't wait for two weeks from now when i will feel 'safe' enough to go to the big garden store. (in a mask of course)
I really want to repot several of my larger older house plants, and I need certain soil mixes and some bigger new pots for them.
For a whole year I have not gone shopping anywhere except for essentials like food or getting my car inspected, etc.  Soon I will feel safe going to a store for something fun!   dancetomato

During this year of quarantine I have learned to appreciate the smaller things in my life that bring joy. One of those things has been a new appreciation of the living plants growing in my home.  love

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/18/21 08:12:09AM
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If a teenager's room looks more like a rainforest cafe than a landfill, I'd say you are really really lucky. bigsmile

A truth: If any sunlight is coming in through a window and landing on any horizontal surface- the floor, a chair, a table... there will be a cat on it, rolling around or 'meatloafing'.

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