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Susie
@susie
09/05/20 12:02:15PM
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Song Identification Help


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Dusty Turtle:

It sounds a lot like Southwind, but I don't think it's the same song.  Both are in 3/4, the first few notes are the same, and the B part goes up to the octave, so there are striking similarities.  But there are also both melodic and harmonic differences.

I wish I could identify it, but I can't. I'm sure someone will.

Thanks Dusty. I'm thinking the same thing. Similar, but different, so that's why I was wondering if it's a different song altogether. If I can't get a definitely answer, I'll just write it out myself, just by having the audio. I've done that on many occasions, so not a problem....just a little more work.

Gregg Schneeman
@gregg-schneeman
09/05/20 12:00:31PM
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Song Identification Help


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Susie:

Can someone identify the song that is played here in this video? Thanks.



"My Own House Waltz" into tune #2 I do not know and back to "My Own House Waltz" then into "Ye Banks and Braes"
updated by @gregg-schneeman: 09/05/20 01:45:15PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
09/05/20 11:56:59AM
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Song Identification Help


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It sounds a lot like Southwind, but I don't think it's the same song.  Both are in 3/4, the first few notes are the same, and the B part goes up to the octave, so there are striking similarities.  But there are also both melodic and harmonic differences.

I wish I could identify it, but I can't. I'm sure someone will.


updated by @dusty: 09/05/20 11:57:24AM
Susie
@susie
09/05/20 11:47:10AM
515 posts

Song Identification Help


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I thought it sounded like it at the beginning, but it has embellishments/parts I have never heard. 


updated by @susie: 09/05/20 12:03:50PM
Salt Springs
@salt-springs
09/05/20 11:14:26AM
215 posts

Song Identification Help


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"Southwind", and I'll bet Duane Porterfield is the musician.


updated by @salt-springs: 09/05/20 12:18:52PM
Susie
@susie
09/05/20 11:10:58AM
515 posts

Song Identification Help


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Can someone identify the song that is played here in this video? Thanks.

Lisa Golladay
@lisa-golladay
09/04/20 08:25:54PM
109 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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If we all had the same hearing, the same playing skills, the same music repertoire, and identical artistic taste, then we could come to a joint conclusion about how much the tone woods matter.  We could even declare, once and for all, which combination of woods makes the "best" dulcimer.  While we're at it, we could pick the single best luthier and let everybody else build furniture.

The chances of this happening are, thank goodness, exactly zero.

Let's enjoy the wide variety of sounds and instruments available to us, and realize that what I'm hearing is not necessarily what you're hearing.

pattyfromor
@pattyfromor
09/04/20 11:32:44AM
22 posts

Want to get a fretting printout for a 24" VSL


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Thanks, Ken. I tried running the ekips calculator and couldn't get it to print onto my mac, even with adobe flash, but found a zip file of guitar templates on handmade music (not a secure site, apparently) in half-inch VSL increments. That should work!

Nate
@nate
09/04/20 03:18:25AM
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Skip:

A random thought occurred to me, how's your hearing? Hearing aids or not? Audio preferences? I quit messing with penny whistles and harmonicas because their sound is unpleasant to my wife's ears, too shrills. I have poor hearing so almost all MD's sound very similar to me, no nuances. And there's always the 'ego' factor.whistle




This is a pretty good point honestly. I am hard at hearing and was told over 10 years ago I should get hearing aids but have not yet.I  hadnt really thought about how much this might  alter my tone perception. Mostly I just have a hard time discerning noise thats on the quiet side, so I guess maybe some subtle overtones are lost on my ear.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/03/20 06:24:48PM
2,157 posts

Want to get a fretting printout for a 24" VSL


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Patty -- you probably will not find a dulcimer fret calculator that includes all those plus frets.  The Wfret calculator does include 6+ and 13+ but not the 1+ and 8+.   This is the only calculator I know of which actually allows you to print out a template which you can then tack-glue to the fretboard for cutting.  All other calculators simply give you a list of fret positions in inches or millimeters.  Use millimeters, they're more accurate.

Simplest solution is probably to use a guitar fret calculator, which will have all the chromatic frets.  Then ignore the frets you don't want. 

pattyfromor
@pattyfromor
09/03/20 06:00:28PM
22 posts

Want to get a fretting printout for a 24" VSL


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Thanks for the info John, unfortunately that calculator doesn't appear to handle "+" frets. Also, we already have the calculations in inches, we are looking for a paper (or digital) printout. But thanks anyway!

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
09/03/20 05:45:07PM
442 posts

Want to get a fretting printout for a 24" VSL


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Patty, have him go to StewMac.com, and on the home page, at the bottom, there is a link to a Fret Calculator (free).  Have him click on that, and it will take him to a page that he can fill out with pertinent numbers, and it will automatically calculate dulcimer fret spacings for him.  He might need to use the guitar template for all of those extra frets.  The output is in inches or millimeters, and will have to be measured out on the fretboard or paper.

pattyfromor
@pattyfromor
09/03/20 04:24:32PM
22 posts

Want to get a fretting printout for a 24" VSL


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

My boyfriend (bless his heart) wants to make me a custom dulcimer for my small hands, and using Richard Ash's Diatonic book as a guide, printed out a rough layout for a 1-15 fret fingerboard, including 1.5, 6.5, 8.5 and 13.5 frets. However we're not sure it's accurate enough to use as a cutting guide. Does anyone know of a dulcimer maker who will sell us a printout he can use? Thanks!

CJ
@cj-smith
09/03/20 03:25:16PM
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Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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Thank you to Skip, Randy, and Ken for that information. I have made my choice now. I appreciate the input.

Skip
@skip
09/03/20 11:31:40AM
388 posts

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A random thought occurred to me, how's your hearing? Hearing aids or not? Audio preferences? I quit messing with penny whistles and harmonicas because their sound is unpleasant to my wife's ears, too shrills. I have poor hearing so almost all MD's sound very similar to me, no nuances. And there's always the 'ego' factor.whistle

Randy Adams
@randy-adams
09/03/20 06:14:28AM
125 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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Every good cook who cooks or smokes food over a wood fire adds their own rub/marinade/etc to create a flavor profile they enjoy.
The type of wood used is understood by most all that each species imparts a unique flavor.
Likewise musical instrument builders each have their own 'tricks of the trade' to create a preferred sound profile.
And the type of wood used is understood by most all that each species imparts a unique tone.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/02/20 11:24:59PM
2,157 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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@cj-smith asked "Given the same craftmanship (2 dulcimers built by the same quality builder), what do you hear is the difference in particular woods."

A competent luthier can "tune" a dulcimer to create whatever "sound" you want to hear.  There are at least a hundred variables which affect the sound of a dulcimer, and wood type is pretty darn far down the list.  

Talk to the luthier and tell him what sound you are looking for.  Ask him to play the three you are considering over the phone for you.   Buy the one that sounds the best to you.  Or buy the one you consider the prettiest. 

CJ
@cj-smith
09/02/20 06:58:01PM
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Wally Venable:

Look at the violin world. The majority of violins are copied from a very few models, and most use the same few woods. Despite that, there is a difference between a $40 one and a $10,000 one.

My guess is that the Chinese factories sort bodies at each step of production, routing the best to their best finishers, with all starting from the same wood and basic pattern cut and carving. Actual testing and sorting is the key.

To get the best FOR YOU from any builder, you should visit the shop and try individual instruments.

Yes, I agree about the difference between prices. I'm not buying a machine built dulcimer. This is a well know builder in the dulcimer world I believe. Of course, I know the best would be to visit in person, but we are not prepared, due to the virus. at this time to make a trip. Wish I could and I certainly agree that would be better. Perhaps I should be waiting but I really want to get one with a 1 1/2 fret and since I can't travel, I'm choosing the same builder as one of my other dulcimers. Thanks for you help.

CJ
@cj-smith
09/02/20 06:54:50PM
4 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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NateBuildsToys:
CJ:

Given the same craftmanship, what do you hear is the difference in particular woods. Of the three I'm considering one has a poplar body with a paulownia top. The 2nd ones has a figured walnut body with a spruce top. The 3rd has a cherry body with a California redwood top. 

 

I am assuming you mean multiple dulcimers from the same plans that are the same size and shape by the same builder. This would imply that if the same builder made two identical dulcimers from the same plans and same wood they would sound identical, yet most luthiers seem to agree that is not the case.

Even then, the sound could be  affected by thickness of wood, how long the wood has settled for, presence of knots, etc.

 

Thank you for that information.

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
09/02/20 05:24:10PM
130 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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Look at the violin world. The majority of violins are copied from a very few models, and most use the same few woods. Despite that, there is a difference between a $40 one and a $10,000 one.

My guess is that the Chinese factories sort bodies at each step of production, routing the best to their best finishers, with all starting from the same wood and basic pattern cut and carving. Actual testing and sorting is the key.

To get the best FOR YOU from any builder, you should visit the shop and try individual instruments.

Nate
@nate
09/02/20 04:58:55PM
440 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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CJ:

Given the same craftmanship, what do you hear is the difference in particular woods. Of the three I'm considering one has a poplar body with a paulownia top. The 2nd ones has a figured walnut body with a spruce top. The 3rd has a cherry body with a California redwood top. 

 

I am assuming you mean multiple dulcimers from the same plans that are the same size and shape by the same builder. This would imply that if the same builder made two identical dulcimers from the same plans and same wood they would sound identical, yet most luthiers seem to agree that is not the case.

Even then, the sound could be  affected by thickness of wood, how long the wood has settled for, presence of knots, etc.
CJ
@cj-smith
09/02/20 03:13:52PM
4 posts

Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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Given the same craftmanship (2 dulcimers built by the same quality builder), what do you hear is the difference in particular woods. Of the three I'm considering one has a poplar body with a paulownia top. The 2nd ones has a figured walnut body with a spruce top. The 3rd has a cherry body with a California redwood top. I already own one by this builder that I like so I totally trust the craftmanship. 

Strumelia
@strumelia
09/02/20 08:26:02AM
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What's the deal with Aquavinas?


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NateBuildsToys:

I totally overlooked this message but it's brilliant. I have just added a rubber ducky to the 'moat'



poolparty

Nate
@nate
09/02/20 05:05:18AM
440 posts

Are there fretless dulcimers?


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WOW. That is seriously cool. That slide dulcimer has mountain banjo vibes as well as lap steel! Thanks for sharing I have a new rabbit hole to fall down!

Nate
@nate
09/02/20 04:54:16AM
440 posts

What's the deal with Aquavinas?


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Strumelia:

This is super cool.
I think it would be additionally fun to make a little folded paper origami boat to float in the 'canal' while playing it.

I totally overlooked this message but it's brilliant. I have just added a rubber ducky to the 'moat'
Nate
@nate
09/01/20 11:14:21PM
440 posts

Glass Bottle Resonator Dulcimer


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David Bennett
@david-bennett
08/31/20 08:59:59PM
61 posts

worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Robin Thompson:

David, I watched your movie on YT yesterday-- well done!  

Thanks Robin!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/31/20 07:11:55PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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David, I watched your movie on YT yesterday-- well done!  

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
08/31/20 01:57:36PM
442 posts

Magnetic pickup vs Piezo vs Mic pointed at dulcimer


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Something useful might be found on the CBGitty website.  They have 3- and 4-pole pickups and flat humbuckers as well.

David Bennett
@david-bennett
08/31/20 01:48:58PM
61 posts

worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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A friend came and played with me for Play on the porch day

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
08/31/20 11:50:29AM
1,314 posts

Magnetic pickup vs Piezo vs Mic pointed at dulcimer


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I have two dulcimers with built in piezo under saddle pickups. I think both do a very good job of reproducing the acoustic sound of the instruments. I used stick-on piezo pickups for a long time, but they not only amplified the sound of the strings, but also amplified pick noise and any touching of the dulcimer. Using a microphone can be tricky in that you need to find the proper placement for it. One reason I stopped using a microphone is a sound tech at a festival I was playing at insisted that the mic be suspended over the dulcimer. Well, when the mic slipped out of the holder and fell on top of the dulcimer, that was it for me. I went to direct plug-in.

As to magnetic pickups, I have no experience with them on a dulcimer. I know Folkcraft is now offering them on some models. I am not aware of anyone selling magnetic pickups for dulcimers, but maybe you do.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
@strumelia
08/31/20 09:10:47AM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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That's right, it's more about the doing of it, not the recording of it.
You did good playing for your friend, Irene.  flower

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/31/20 08:36:35AM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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@irene, in my book, you did play for PMOTPD!  The fact that you don't have a good recording is just a little thing.  

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
08/31/20 08:12:58AM
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Magnetic pickup vs Piezo vs Mic pointed at dulcimer


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Since no one has yet answered, I'll give my 2 centavos.  I use a Schatten Dualie stick-on piezo I've had for at least 20 years.  I bought it to amplify nylon string guitars to get that "Willie" sound.  That being said, I also run it through a Boss GE-7 equalizer which has a small preamp built in. Like with the guitar, I run it into whatever amp I have available.  I was given a Roland Microcube this year and I love it. I was using the Squire version of a Frontman 15, which for what it is, a cheap amp, isn't bad at all. For larger gigs I have a Fender Acoustisonic 150. I haven't yet used a magnetic pickup on a dulcimer, however I'm thinking about building a strictly electric instrument with both a piezo and a magnetic.  If you want some input on magnetic pickups, contact Jerry Rockwell.  He also has a unique mounting system he invented to move magnetic pickups from dulcimer to dulcimer.  Think the old Rickenbacker horseshoe in reverse.  

 

IRENE
@irene
08/30/20 11:59:42PM
168 posts

worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Been finishing up dulcimer #48 and at the end of the day, remembered.   Grabbed my dulcimer and headed into Nauvoo to play for my friend that is going into a big cancer operation and we're all praying that he makes it.   I called and said he could stay inside and I play on his porch.   So I started my phone to record it, and handed it to his wife that was outside to take a photo.   hrumph.   All I got on the phone was a 2 second record playing that I was on......repeat.   ha ha ha.   but my friend and his wife enjoyed me playing for them.  A perfect day here as the sun went down on the porch.   Maybe NEXT YEAR, I'll be able to get my whole act together and have someone else record it.  or at least take one photo.....I'm grateful I got to do this for my friend.   He requested old 60's songs and yeah, I know those too.  aloha, irene

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/30/20 05:27:02PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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@don-grundy I'm sorry you got rained out!  You'll get to play a make up game now.  :)

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
08/30/20 05:17:56PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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It rained most of the day and then we ran errands.
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/30/20 05:15:13PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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@gordon-hardy I watched your video yesterday and enjoyed it!  

Worldwide PMOTPD had so many participants this year-- more than ever, I imagine.  Thanks to all who participated and to all who watched videos!

@don-grundy, did you get to play on your porch?  

Any friends want to tell about your adventures with music on PMOTPD?  (We had a tech problem of some kind and it took well over an hour to upload our little film to YT.)

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