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James Phillips
@james-phillips
01/06/21 08:55:16PM
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I got a new ukulele


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I got it yesterday.  It was actually supposed to be the carbon gold model, but there was a boo-boo and they sent along the wrong uke, but you know, I like this translucent color.  I emailed them earlier and told them I would take store credit or something and use it for a shirt or some stuff from there merchandise page.  Another company I had heard of was KLOS guitars that also does ukes, and they do black colored carbon fiber travel guitars and ukes.  I went with Outdoor just because I wanted to see what this all was about, as I actually have 2 Kala tenor ukes that I really like.  Plus with this being so durable and having good tune, it is a perfect take to a park instrument.

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/06/21 08:18:56PM
2,403 posts

I got a new ukulele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...


I believe one should avoid keeping count after an even dozen. After a dozen it does it really matter?  grin

I also believe that no one can call you a 'collector' unless you have more than a dozen of something.

James do you have it yet, or is it being shipped?  Hey, I'm thinking with that uke, it doesn't matter if the weather is cold during shipping!


updated by @strumelia: 01/06/21 08:20:51PM
Pondoro
@pondoro
01/06/21 07:38:59PM
34 posts

I got a new ukulele


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Now you've done it. I just met a woman who has 28 ukuleles. After 3 your spouse can't keep track.

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/06/21 07:34:22PM
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I got a new ukulele


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James that ukulele you got looks pretty amazing. I can't believe how it is so weather proof, but sounds great. I like how it's sort of translucent.
What made you decide on the white one? Colors are always such a hard choice for me.

James Phillips
@james-phillips
01/06/21 07:14:31PM
87 posts

I got a new ukulele


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I wound up getting a ukulele yesterday from Outdoor Ukulele, a site I had never really heard of until I saw an advert in the side column on Facebook.  I got the tenor size, moonshine gold model.  For being of man made material, this really sounds great, and something to check into if thinking about the time when it is safe to jam with people in person again.  It didn't sound fake, had good projection and good action.  Here is a link to there site for anyone wanting to learn more https://www.outdoorukulele.com/

dulcinina
@dulcinina
01/06/21 06:17:30PM
88 posts

Short film on luthier Charlie Glenn


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Thanks for posting this, Robin.  That was so interesting and adds so much to the history of the culture of building folk instruments.  Dulcinina

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
01/06/21 08:58:50AM
1,551 posts

Short film on luthier Charlie Glenn


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robert schuler
@robert-schuler
01/05/21 06:05:31PM
257 posts

"Floating" Fretboards


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A Fingerboard can easily account for 25% of the soundboard. So raising it has to make a difference. You only need to raise it a couple millimeters. I prefer to hollow out under the Fingerboard and leave 4 mm. on each side glued to the top. I add a soundhole on the fingerboard like I've seen on some Galax dulcimers, that might help tone a bit and looks cool too.

I think restraining the top with a glued fingerboard can actually help in making that very  intimate tone that is unique to dulcimers. Although I welcome those who push the envelope we better be careful not to end up with dulcimers that sound like skinny guitars....Robert

Matt Berg
@matt-berg
01/05/21 08:28:26AM
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Sorry about the "Eww". sometime my fingers work faster than my brain.

Matt Berg
@matt-berg
01/05/21 08:26:57AM
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These photos are a recent build so you see a little of what I am talking about.


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Matt Berg
@matt-berg
01/05/21 08:20:40AM
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Eww, metal dowels?  I use a wooden dowel at the head and a true bridge placed so that the fret board is properly tensioned and does not warp, takes some practice.  The fretboard floats about a 1/4 inch above the soundboard.  The fretboard becomes part of the vibrating part of the instrument and adds (or detracts) from the sound.  This is different from the neck of a guitar.

As far as the soundboard goes, yes, you need to practice bracing so that you emphasize the sound you are looking for. If you are building a standard (treble) dulcimer, try thicker and more bracing.  This will dampen the bass and give you clearer melody notes.  For a bass (my favorite), try longer thinner bracing so that the bass can vibrate.  (The shape of a MD allows for much longer bracing than most other instruments, a difference that can be used.)

If you have difficulty placing the bridge properly, try a second bridge under the seven fret.  A wooden bridge still transfers vibration to the soundboard.  I prefer lighter wood like cedar for my bridges, but like everything a luthier does, whatever works for you is best.

If you are going to try this, you might want to subscribe to American Lutherie.  This magazine focuses on the guitar, but you will find lots of articles by people who have been shaping bracing for years.

Art S
@art-s
01/04/21 08:47:49PM
24 posts

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That would work, Dusty. I am working on a version of Ken's plans as soon as the lockdown ends and I can get into the hardware store to buy a 4" bolt. I had already checked out the listing on Amazon and was not impressed with the customer comments. 

I'll post a photo of my creation once I get it made.

Thanks everyone!

Bill Robison
@bill-robison
01/04/21 07:46:17PM
36 posts

"Floating" Fretboards


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Thank you all for the response on floating fretboard.  I am going to attempt one

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/04/21 07:13:59PM
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Blue Lion Dulcimers why so Special?


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Starfire, if you are talking about comments left on your profile page, then there should be a link under their comment that says "comment back", which takes you to their profile page- you can then leave them a responding comment on their profile page in their comment wall section.   :)
Anytime you click on someone's namelink here, it will take you to their personal page.

If you have other questions about how to use the site, you may find answers HERE (look through the threads of commonly asked questions) or start a new thread to ask a new question there about how to use the site.  :)


updated by @strumelia: 01/04/21 07:21:23PM
star2fire
@star2fire
01/04/21 07:04:35PM
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Blue Lion Dulcimers why so Special?


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Thank you to all the beautiful people who have post kind welcome messages. I have been trying to answer with a comment but I’m struggling to figure out how to use this site. I guess it’s gonna take me awhile to figure out how this works.

Bob Stephens
@bob-stephens
01/04/21 03:40:05PM
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Dusty is correct in that my Fingerstyle, the recent parallel braced dulcimer being played by Butch Ross and the latest X-braced dulcimer supplied to Aaron O'Rourke all have bolt on fretboards that are raised above the soundboard on posts.  The entire soundboard is free to vibrate.  Although I have never done a direct comparison, with and without gluing the fretboard to the top with everything else being equal, the instruments with an elevated fretboard are clearly more responsive and have more volume potential.  The overall character of the tone is also altered because of the large vibrating plate that results.  There is a shift to enhance the mids and lows relative to the high end.  The resulting sound will not be what everyone is looking for.  As we build more of these dulcimers we are learning more about how to alter the sound profile to achieve a particular desired response.  Adding braces in particular patterns and using different top thicknesses is opening up a world of new possibilities.  I expect that over the next few years, a lot will be learned about how to reach the full potential of these instruments.  Aaron, Butch and I are attempting to learn all we can and push the envelope as far as possible.  The results of our efforts will be detailed in the blog section of my website, stephenslutherie.com.  

I am currently in the process of relocating my shop from South Carolina to Wisconsin, so there will be a gap in progress for the next four or five months.  The new shop will be focused solely on instrument production and should be much more efficient once it is up and running.  Between Aaron, Butch and I we have plenty of ideas to keep the new shop busy.

Bob Reinsel
@bob-reinsel
01/04/21 03:35:32PM
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"Floating" Fretboards


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This is an example of an arched fretboard that I built with only one pier between the nut and tail end.


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updated by @bob-reinsel: 01/04/21 03:37:13PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
01/04/21 03:04:33PM
1,847 posts

"Floating" Fretboards


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There are at least a couple of builders who do not glue the fretboard to the soundboard at all. My octave dulcimer by David Beede has the fretboard screwed into the dulcimer with three metal dowels, but it sits entirely about 1/4 inch above the soundboard. His logic is that the top is free to vibrate that way. And I think FOTMD member @bob-stephens also makes dulcimers with floating fretboards.  In this discussion he specifically says that his "fretboards don't touch the top."  I think he also uses metal bolts to attach the fretboard to the dulcimer and allow it to sit above the soundboard.


updated by @dusty: 01/04/21 08:20:14PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
01/04/21 02:39:18PM
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Recommendations on capos


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Terry's capo is a modification of the Spider capo. And he offers a version with a D'Addario tuner attached to it.  It's a nice idea, especially if you have room left of the nut to leave it attached when you're not using it.  That way you have a tuner and capo always available.  If I didn't already have a bunch of capos and a bunch of tuners I would probably get one.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/04/21 11:47:23AM
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Blue Lion Dulcimers why so Special?


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That's really nice inlay on that Blue Lion. Enjoy.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song." (and I'm sure this one will)

Joseph Besse
@joseph-besse
01/04/21 11:02:27AM
52 posts

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I think Terry's Capo is the best out there.  I have the Ron Ewing and the original Dudley and like Terry's the best.

Joe Besse

Nathina
@nathina
01/04/21 10:58:32AM
188 posts

Fret Markers


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Matt Berg:

Why not try indented markers that are slightly below the surface.  They would be tactile and not interfere with a noter!

I don't know why that is not done. It would work equally well.

Bill Robison
@bill-robison
01/04/21 10:17:55AM
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Ken,

 I realize the fretboard is glued to top somewhere, I was thinking along the lines of gluing the fretboard only at the head and tail blocks and making the top a braced single unit  with just a fraction of clearance between it and the fretboard  and setting the bridge on the top instead of on the fretboard

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
01/04/21 09:31:46AM
1,551 posts

Blue Lion Dulcimers why so Special?


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Wow, @sgarrity!  You're in for a treat.  In addition to being beautiful, your Blue Lion will be smooth to play and will, I imagine, will sound as great as it looks.

Bob Reinsel
@bob-reinsel
01/04/21 08:57:11AM
80 posts

Fret Markers


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As a player, and builder, I think the fretboard should be a smooth as possible.  I don't install fret markers on dulcimers, but if I did, they would be inlaid, and planed, or scraped, level with the surface.

I just measured the crown of the fret wire that I use for dulcimers (very light) which is about 1.25 mm.  Anything sticking up on the fretboard would be felt under the fingers, which might be intentional, but could also unintentionally cause a buzz, or work as a fret itself.

If a tactile guide was needed I would probably add it to the edge of the fretboard.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/04/21 06:55:34AM
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"Floating" Fretboards


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Bill -- they're all glued to the top.  It's just that floating FBs have the area under the bridge separated.  IIRC floating a dulcimer fretboard does not have "significant" effect.  Whatever "significant" means;  almost no one builds floaters these days.  That was one of the post-revival ideas of Howie Mitchell I think.  These days many builders offer arched fretboards which significantly reduce the amount of FB-to-top contact while still supporting the fretboard for its entire length.

If you can find the archives of EverythingDulcimer, I believe that Richard Troughear, from Australia -- who for years had an on-going series of Experiments which he posted there -- did an experiment with the same body with different FBs including a floater.  Almost no other builders conduct true scientific investigations into various aspects of dulcimer construction; rather they give us quantitative, not qualitative comparisons -- feelings not numbers.


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Bill Robison
@bill-robison
01/04/21 06:43:35AM
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I know there are builders who "float" their fretboards. I am sure there are discussions on methods and pros and cons for this.  Have  any builders made a comparison of floating versus glued to top? Thanks 

Bill R

Matt Berg
@matt-berg
01/04/21 06:29:00AM
105 posts

Fret Markers


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Why not try indented markers that are slightly below the surface.  They would be tactile and not interfere with a noter!

Nathina
@nathina
01/03/21 08:08:44PM
188 posts

Fret Markers


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Dusty Turtle:

I've heard of tactile position markers on the back or top of the neck on guitars, so that you can feel with your hand where you are on the fretboard, but I've never seen anything like that on the fingerboard itself.

But we don't wrap our hands around the finger board /fret board on a dulcimer. There is no back. The markers I have come across are unobtrusive, you can feel them, they don't interfere with a noter, either they are just outside the proper position for a noter, or they are too "slippery" to be a problem. We are not talking a square wall and less than a 2mm rise, enough to feel, not enough to interfere. In fact they are usually not higher than the string itself.


updated by @nathina: 01/03/21 08:13:19PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
01/03/21 08:05:14PM
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Fret Markers


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I've heard of tactile position markers on the back or top of the neck on guitars, so that you can feel with your hand where you are on the fretboard, but I've never seen anything like that on the fingerboard itself.

Nathina
@nathina
01/03/21 07:54:04PM
188 posts

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They can be fancier, rubies, sapphires. depends who the dulcimer is being given too or was given too. There are some interesting instruments among European royalty. I haven't seen them added to really narrow fret boards that were specifically for noters. Rubys are not expensive, used for jeweled watches and clocks. Same with sapphires. Low grade diamonds are even cheap enough to use as fret markers.


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Strumelia
@strumelia
01/03/21 07:43:25PM
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Fret Markers


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My noter tip would crash into anything closer than the middle string. You mean like those little stick-on circular plastic jewels kids put on their faces? I'd think they'd get in the way of any smooth sliding by either fingers or noters. I suppose a very gentle slow player might not have a problem with them.

Nathina
@nathina
01/03/21 06:22:29PM
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Strumelia:

I would think that raised fret markers could interfere badly especially with noter playing, particularly if they were located between the melody string(s) and the middle string. That'd be bad!

Besides, on any dulcimer other than a chromatic one, if you're not looking while playing anyway then raised fret markers are already there... they're called frets.  ;)

Actually those for the blind are placed just outside of proper noter placement for the melody. They are sloped on all sides and do not create an obstruction to fingers.

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/03/21 06:06:12PM
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Fret Markers


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I would think that raised fret markers could interfere badly especially with noter playing, particularly if they were located between the melody string(s) and the middle string. That'd be bad!

Besides, on any dulcimer other than a chromatic one, if you're not looking while playing anyway then raised fret markers are already there... they're called frets.  ;)


updated by @strumelia: 01/03/21 06:08:21PM
Bob
@bob
01/03/21 05:04:23PM
87 posts

Fret Markers


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And then there's the Chromatic Dulcimer with fret markers on EVERY Diatonic fret dohh and an inlay at the second octave ...  (I named this one "Dotty")


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Susie
@susie
01/03/21 04:28:09PM
515 posts

Recommendations on capos


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Like Dusty said, the Ewing capos are a good value.

Terry McCafferty now makes some really nice capos for a little more. I have since purchased 2 of his. Nice mechanism, perfect pressure.....my new favorite dulcimer capo. 

https://www.mccaffertydulcimers.com/capos

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