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Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
10/10/24 12:16:33PM
2,157 posts

Barbry Ellen Tab Experiment


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Basically everyone writes tab in their own way.  So, if guitar-like notation works for you, that's great.  Realize of course that Jean did not play chords in the guitar sense.  She played Noter & Drone style, where the middle and bass strings drone open notes and the melody note is fingered only on the melody string...  Mostly, noter & drone tablature is just written as a single string of numbers representing the melody string, one note for each note sung.   

I did find this for you, from the Ultimate Guitar site -- the chords for Jean's unique version of Barbry Allen:
BARBRY ELLEN CHORDS by Jean Ritchie @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com  

steve104c
@steve104c
10/10/24 11:04:35AM
16 posts

Ways to play in other keys


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I have two dulcimers. I want to be able to play more songs at my jam sessions. Where can I get a chord chart for the DGD tuning? I have the chart for the DAD tuning. I will bring both dulcimers in the two different tunings so I can play in more songs. Steve.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
10/10/24 08:44:07AM
1,254 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


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I'm glad to hear the it went well for you Ken.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
10/10/24 06:14:41AM
2,157 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


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Milton came ashore about 85 miles north of us, at Siesta Key in Sarsota.  Nothing here but winds, not much rain.  Lost power for about 15 minutes is all..

Talia
@talia
10/09/24 11:00:05PM
2 posts

Barbry Ellen Tab Experiment


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

I purchased a dulcimer last week after wanting one for a very long time. I have been listening to Jean Ritchie's instructional record, and learning her major version of Barbry Ellen. It seemed to me like the easiest way to write out the melody she is playing on the dulcimer was to do it similar to the way guitar chords are written out, the chord written on top of the lyric that is sung. The number refers to the fret on the melody string that is pressed, the other two strings are always a drone. The slides are written the same way that they would be in guitar tab, for example 3/5 being a slide up from the 3rd to 5th fret, and 6\5 being a slide down from the 6th to 5th.

Here are the recordings I got the music from. She has a bit more variation in her melody in different verses but I decided to keep it simple for now and do the same thing for each verse. She explains her strumming variations as well which I may try and find a better way to write out another time.

I will try to get a video of me playing/singing soon :) Let me know what you think. I'm sure I'm not the first person to write out dulcimer music this way so I would be curious if there are similar methods out there as well.


Barbry Ellen Dulcimer.pdf - 18KB

updated by @talia: 10/09/24 11:01:41PM
RevDave
@revdave
10/08/24 08:36:38PM
19 posts

Folk Instruments?


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

The same goes for pipe organs, and probably everything else, too. There are purist enthusiasts of all instruments.  For me, there’s a line of integrity between forward-thinking and honest development of the instrument, and wandering into the territory of appropriation, turning the instrument into something it was not intended to be. I’m all for development and evolution, but not bastardization. The difference between “folk” and “legit” is the same as the difference between “jazz” and “legit.” It has to do with what may be considered “mainstream.” Jazz has become mainstream. So has a lot of folk. For ME, folk should be accessible to all who want to play, without regard to “acceptable credentials.” One’s talent and dedication will out, in the end. 

RevDave
@revdave
10/08/24 08:23:37PM
19 posts

squeakless nylon strings?


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I’m not familiar with nylon tape wound, but I am familiar with metal tape wound — and with nylon wrapped flats for bass, as well as classical guitar strings. I don’t care for nylon strings. They stretch too much and require fiddling with the tuning.  I also don’t care for the sound — they’re too mellow; YMMV. If I had an issue with string squeak, I’d probably look at either nickel flats or tapes. For me, they produce a livelier tone.  

RevDave
@revdave
10/08/24 08:12:28PM
19 posts

Nut & saddle Material


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Martin uses bone on its guitars; Gibson and Taylor use a synthetic (Tusq) that they insist is better tuned to conduct the frequencies particular to guitars. Gibson also uses Micarta and Corian. Most of us would likely never really hear the difference. I bet these materials are harder than at least most woods, and likely conduct better. However, I suggest that, like all other musical instruments, it’s not really a concern of the material of one component, but the synthesis of all build factors. A bone nut will still sound bad if the total build is suspect. 

RevDave
@revdave
10/08/24 07:44:40PM
19 posts

Pick noise


Playing and jamming difficulties...HELP ME!

Those are good. But if you want less pick noise, you might try the Dunlop Jazz III. They’re small, so not much point. They’re a thick, mellow pick.

Cristian Huet
@cristian-huet
10/08/24 06:28:23PM
5 posts

Pick noise


Playing and jamming difficulties...HELP ME!

you can decrease the bad noises using a Dunlop nylon pick (they are grey).
They are less noisy than plastic picks (and they never brake !).
I use 0,73 for dulcimer and 0,88 for guitar.


updated by @cristian-huet: 10/08/24 06:29:20PM
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
10/06/24 07:56:55PM
266 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


OFF TOPIC discussions

The news media have heavily reported on the storm damage in the NC mountains, but other southeastern states have suffered as well.

Keep these folks in prayer as well as all of the those who assisting and aiding, paid or volunteers.

Our church has had several members go to the NC mountains. Their first hand reports tell us the damage is 10 times worse when seen in person than any of the images can show on the news. Our church has sent two trucks of commodity items so far and another one is going this coming Tuesday. The mountain people are so resilient and in spite of the damages, losses, and their personal situations generally have an attitude of "we'll get through this together."  

If  you can afford to give I suggest donations to one of the faith based organizations as they have a positive track record of getting goods to those who need it the most.

This is going to be a years long recovery and rebuild, maybe 10 years or more. May we not forget them when the news tires of reporting on this event.

Strumelia
@strumelia
10/06/24 07:18:17PM
2,355 posts

The Positive Thread...


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@john-w-mckinstry , that is something I can really relate to-  I have not planted morning glories by the side of our sunny garage door in about five years. Have not seen hide nor hair of them in that time.  Then, just three mornings ago, Brian and I were surprised to see two giant Heavenly Blue blooms there near the ground, looking much like your picture. It surprised us as well!  Seems like an omen of some sort?  We could all use some good omens these days i think. If i see more blooms before the frost puts an end to our brave little survivor plant, i will think of you John.  nod

Susie
@susie
10/06/24 07:13:52PM
510 posts

Native American Flutes


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

RevDave:

Caleb Dan Bennett:

You can't have too many flutes I say! lol


I have 15. I have a problem. 

 

No, at 15 you're having fun! flute

Strumelia
@strumelia
10/06/24 07:12:58PM
2,355 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


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The destruction from Helene and the subsequent flooding has been horrific. So many of the effected communities are completely isolated because of roads destroyed and all communications and power down. It's a challenge to get the massive amounts of aid needed to people under such devastating conditions- shelter, water, food, power, medical help... my heart goes out to all the families suffering. I read today that some folks are using pack mules to get help to some isolated places.
To now hear of a new hurricane forming and churning its way towards Florida, that's so awful. Is this going to be a hurricane season worse than any other in US history? Let us hope not.

RevDave
@revdave
10/06/24 02:42:21PM
19 posts

Native American Flutes


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Caleb Dan Bennett:

You can't have too many flutes I say! lol

I have 15. I have a problem. 
John W. McKinstry
@john-w-mckinstry
10/06/24 01:28:28PM
59 posts

The Positive Thread...


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:"Heavenly Blue Moment"

The other day I walked up the upper deck stairs in search of small tomatoes. When I turned the corner, I was given a "Heavenly Blue Moment".  Just ahead of me was a beautiful six inch blossom of this morning glory.  We have been waiting for two years to see one.  One year there was too much shade. This year I chose a sunny location. All my others morning glories have been in blossom for over a couple of months now. I had just about given up when, in this first week of October, I was given this "Heavenly Blue Moment"!  I was worth the waiting.

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RevDave
@revdave
10/06/24 09:08:13AM
19 posts

OPINION ON BUILDER


Playing and jamming difficulties...HELP ME!

Hi, just beginning on dulcimer, but I have years and years of professional experience with fine guitars, boutique electric basses, and minor violin repair. I appreciate fine instruments, and grow quickly frustrated with poor intonation, poor quality build, poor action, and mediocre tone. I’m looking for a less expensive instrument to begin with. Looking at either a McSpadden or an interesting “beginner” instrument by Bill Berg.  What do you think of Bill’s quality?

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
10/06/24 08:25:56AM
1,254 posts

for what its worth


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Yes, it's been a great resource. I still use WFRET on an old PC laptop. It's the only program I use on that computer. There is a wealth of information for instrument builders on that site.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
10/06/24 07:30:17AM
2,157 posts

for what its worth


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Have been using MIMF for twenty years I think...  They have(or had) the best fret spacing calculator on the planet -- WFRET; The older version (which I still have) is best.  LOTS of interesting ideas and articles there.

Lilley Pad
@lilley-pad
10/06/24 05:52:41AM
53 posts

for what its worth


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Just stumbled across this web site.  I thought it may be of some interest to some of you out there. shrugger

The Musical Instrument Makers Forum   mimf.com

Susie
@susie
10/05/24 08:45:02PM
510 posts

Native American Flutes


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Yes, High Spirits continues to sell, and their online store is well stocked. I still get their monthly newsletter....all appears normal. My last purchase from them was in February of this year.

Soundsoflove
@soundsoflove
10/05/24 01:00:40AM
2 posts

Native American Flutes


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Roger56:

Susie:

steve104c:

If you look on High Spirits Flutes, you will see he calls them Native American Style flutes. Years ago the American Indians sued the people selling “Native American Flutes” when the person making the flutes had no Native American heritage. Now when selling a “Native American Flute” it must have been made by a “Native American “ or if not by an “American Native “, it must be sold as “Native American Style “. “Native American Flute Style “ donates the type. “ Native American Flute “ donates it is an official “ Native American”  made flute.


 

Thank you for that explanation. I see that on the HS website. I understand and agree with the distinction.  That said, I think in causal conversation, when we speak of our flutes, there's no harm in calling the HS flutes, Native American Flutes. I know I do. I'm thankful for such builders who are responsible and respectful and build quality flutes. In doing so, they are still honoring the Native Americans, the instrument, and the music.


Thanks again! flute nod


 


As a person who makes Native American Style flutes, I thought it might be helpful to know why they have to be called Native "style" flutes. This is due to the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990, which was passed to protect Indigenous crafts people. They were being crushed by people offering cheap knockoffs, mostly being made in China and Eastern Europe. Now in the USA you must clearly identify that it is a Native American "style" flute (or even other crafts like dreamcatchers) - unless the maker of the item is a registered member of a federally recognized Tribe or Nation. 


It would shock you to find out just how bad the problem still is - the Chinese are still dumping cheaply made dreamcatchers, arrowheads and many other items. You can even go to a reservation and find these items being sold in the gift shops there. And just how bad is it? The international patent for a dreamcatcher is owned by...China. It never occurred to our indigenous craftspeople that something like that could happen!


I have a lot of Cherokee blood in me, but I don't qualify for membership in any of the three recognized tribes of the Cherokee. Thus, I cannot sell my flutes as "Native Made". But I long ago decided to not be part of the problem, so I do sell them as Native American Style.



  

Is High Spirit Flutes still making flutes?  Odell's stock has been either low or sold out for sometime now and no returned phone calls.  Holding him in consciousness for continued health, prosperity and well-being.

Soundsoflove
@soundsoflove
10/04/24 06:24:23PM
2 posts

Native American Flutes


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hello everyone!

This message is to find the sound and vibration of music inside and all around you.

I'm interested in a High Spirits Nova Double Bass D flute.  If anyone has one they'd like to sell, or know of someone who has a new or used NDBD please reach out and say hello and connect.

Much love!

Soundsoflove

Debi
@debi
10/03/24 08:13:49PM
3 posts

Looking fo a NH Pudge Pro


FOR SALE:instruments/music items/CDs/Wanted to Buy...

Hi,  I am in possession of a NHD Pudge Pro which I received a few months ago.  I am considering selling it due to a problem with arthritis in my left thumb.  It's Peruvian walnut/port Orford cedar with an ebony fretboard.  The look and sound of it are both beautiful.  The VSL is 24 inches.  It has the additional 1.5 and 8.5 frets also.  It is posed next to a McSpadden Ginger. The bridge allows you to adjust intonation up and down the fretboard and the tuners are designed to make string changes much easier than usual.  The frets are EVO frets. If you would like additional pictures/information, please let me know.   Thx!


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Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
10/03/24 10:10:02AM
1,254 posts

Judith Giddings, Rest in Peace


OFF TOPIC discussions

Although I already saw this sad news on Facebook I appreciate your sharing it here Lisa. I did not know Judith but as Dusty notes she was a caring person and, of course, she was a member of the mountain dulcimer community. My sympathy goes out to her family and friends.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/03/24 02:25:40AM
1,817 posts

Judith Giddings, Rest in Peace


OFF TOPIC discussions

Thanks for sharing that sad news with us, Lisa.  The obituary makes it clear what a caring person Judith was.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
10/02/24 04:14:15PM
1,512 posts

Judith Giddings, Rest in Peace


OFF TOPIC discussions

Thank you for letting us know, Lisa.  I wish for comfort for all her friends and family. 

Lisa C
@lisa-c
10/02/24 03:53:47PM
12 posts

Judith Giddings, Rest in Peace


OFF TOPIC discussions

Judith passed away September 25. The wetzlerfuneralhome.com has her obituary.

Please consider sharing special memories of her either at the Wetzler site or here. 

RevDave
@revdave
10/02/24 01:28:57PM
19 posts

How Many Dulcimers Do You Own?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Is there an instrument that doesn’t infect with “acquisition disorder?” I have a friend who has 27 guitars. I try to keep my condition to a minimum to placate She Who Must be Obeyed. I only own 2 guitars: a cheap, short scale Squire and a new Gibson L-00. I own two electric basses, 7 Irish whistles and 14 Native American flutes. No dulcimers yet; I’m currently refurbishing a kit model owned by my church, but I expect to break out in acquisition pustules at any moment… Pray for me; these things are not cheap!

RevDave
@revdave
10/02/24 01:20:09PM
19 posts

amps and dulcimers


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Bass amps are tuned and equalized to efficiently reproduce and amplify lower tones. If using a bass amp, I expect you’ll have to roll off the bass and boost the treble. If you have access to an acoustic guitar amp, that would be better. 

cairney
@steve-c
10/01/24 10:04:54PM
96 posts

Reasons NOT To Get a Chromatic


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

If the word Dulcimer means sweet sounding instrument, then maybe the instrument is called a dulcimer for its sound and not the number of strings or how it is fretted.  There are a few cases of pre-revival chromatic instruments and many Virginia dulcimers had four equidistant strings.  There is also the case that, what we refer to as Scheitholts were called dulcimers as early as 1758 and in Ohio these fretted zithers were still being called dulcimers in the 19th century. And then of course we have the hammered dulcimer…now if you want to make a distinction between the Kentucky or Virginia or even the Pre-revival as opposed to post revival or even between traditional and modern dulcimers, then that is definitely legitimate.  But for me the dulcimer is a dulcimer because of its sweet sound.  I love the sound of the instrument and that’s why I play it.  I play guitar, banjo, Irish harp, a little mandolin and a few others, I play diatonic and semi-chromatic, but don’t enjoy fully chromatic dulcimers and that is because the limited scale forces me to be more creative and I love trying to get everything I can from a limited scale.  As was mentioned by Ken you can used the Virginia tuning and get to a lot of places on that scale..it’s just plain fun.  But it’s all dulcimer to me…just listen to that sound.


updated by @steve-c: 10/02/24 06:14:44AM
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
09/30/24 09:01:17PM
266 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


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NC mountains hard hit. Well over 400K people without power, Many are isolated with no means of getting any help due to roads and bridges washed out, no phone or cell or internet service. There are literally thousands of volunteers on the ground and sending needed supplies. 3 churches that I know of in our area in central NC are sending trucks and trailers loaded with needed supplies. Keep these folks and the many helpers lifted in prayer.

Nate
@nate
09/30/24 06:28:15PM
408 posts

How Many Dulcimers Do You Own?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Thats a pretty cool instrument. I like the tin at the end and the bridge setup is clever. Thanks for sharing

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/30/24 08:09:17AM
2,157 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


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Don Pedi and Lois Hornbostel and their local groups have come through pretty well.  Black Mountain is devastated.  Asheville is still pretty much an island.  Blue Ridge parkway is closed.  Our Traditional builders in Virginia and Tennessee got some nearby flooding but nothing damaging to their homes or families.  

Here on Florida's Gulf Coast, from Tampa north around the Bend to Tallahassee took the brunt of the incoming storm.  Fort Myers where I live had 3-5 ft of storm surge walk up the Caloosahatchee river and spread across the low laying areas, but it drained back out within a few hour on the ebbing tide.  Mostly we had an average Tropical Storm -- winds 40-50, gusting 60+.  Strangely wegot very little rain here...

ocean-daughter
@ocean-daughter
09/30/24 12:15:12AM
46 posts

Hurricane Helene news?


OFF TOPIC discussions

Hey all,

I was wondering how people may have been affected by the hurricane, particularly in Western North Carolina and East Tennessee.  It occurred to me that quite a few of our dulcimer folk are in those areas.  I remember how Eastern Kentucky was so hard hit by flooding a couple of years ago. 

Does anyone have any news? 

I'm in California, so quite far removed, but I was just looking at news photos of the flooding in Asheville, and my heart aches. 

capewavedancer
@capewavedancer
09/29/24 05:51:10PM
5 posts

1977 Robert Mize


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

I got this beauty waxed up and strings on and it sounds lovely! Dealing with the wooden pegs was a challenge but we managed to do it. So much to learn! I strung it DAdd and then switched it to DAAd. I've tried a couple of traditional 3-string tunes: Go Tell Aunt Rhody and The Water is Wild. Experimenting with fingerpicking as well as using a pick and noter. I'm looking forward to exploring more!

On another note, the card that came with the uke was signed by Jane Mize and it is numbered J-10. Robert Mize is on the label inside the instrument. Could Jane be a family member? Did she also make instruments? Google was not helpful!

OverDrive
@overdrive
09/29/24 02:09:03PM
6 posts

How Many Dulcimers Do You Own?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

NateBuildsToys:

That is awesome @overdrive

Id love to see a photo of the dulcimer that has served you all this time

Nate

I guess it's time I took some photos!  Notice the "floating tail" and the bent bicycle spoke clamping the strings for a better break angle.
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