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Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/05/19 10:10:52PM
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Newbie questions - noter size, string gauges, Berea tunings


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I just checked the notice for the Berea gathering. While DAd is not mentioned as tuning, some folks use it even for noter playing. One of the reasons that it is not used much is because you often need to go over to the middle string to get some of the notes for the melody which can be awkward. It is much easier to use a 1 - 5 - 5 tuning as you seldom have to go over to the center string for melody.

Now to answer your question about noter length. When I first started playing I used a noter about 2 1/2 to 3 inches long. Now I tend to use ones from 4 to 5 inches and 3/8th to a half inch thick.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Pondoro
@pondoro
01/05/19 09:03:44PM
34 posts

Newbie questions - noter size, string gauges, Berea tunings


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OK, got my dulcimer.  Rearranged the strings because the prior owner had gotten them switched up. Tuned it DAd. I'm leaning towards noter and a pick, versus chording, at first. 

I don't have a noter, but I can make one. Could one or more of you lay a favorite noter next to a 12 inch ruler and post a picture? I've got lots of wood.

I started noting with a 4 inch by 0.375 inch dowel and learned that it is really easy to make unwanted glissando effects. Is there a trick to avoid that?

Saw the info for the gathering in Berea, it seems DAd is not allowed? Should I learn DAa instead? How often do you all retune? Between songs in a set? 

 

Thanks!!


updated by @pondoro: 01/05/19 09:32:34PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/05/19 02:54:54PM
2,157 posts

Introduce Yourself!


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Strings are strings -- as long as the gauge is right.

Lisa
@lisa
01/05/19 12:15:57PM
21 posts

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Ken Hulme:

Lisa -- secret to not breaking strings when tuning is to always tune a "singing" string.  Hold the tuner knob you think is the right one.  Pluck the string and turn it 1/4 turn.  If the singing string does not change pitch -- STOP -- you have the wrong tuner.  

LOL!  Ken, the secret to not breaking strings is not trying to tune it up five notes higher then it should be!  Unfortunately, I got the last pack of strings from the music store, so if I keep experimenting, I’m going to have to resort to banjo strings until they get some real dulcimer strings back in stock.   

Lisa


updated by @lisa: 01/05/19 12:20:54PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
01/05/19 11:37:50AM
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Hi @dtortorich ,

Since this is a discussion called "Introduce Yourself", most members don't think to read it in order to answer questions.  If you have specific questions about music and/or dulcimers, you'll greatly improve your chances of getting helpful answers if you create a new discussion in the General forum that has a title related to your question , such as maybe "Good medleys of Christmas Carols?", "Pickling Pickled Peppers song?", etc.  When members see a new discussion like that, they'll often go read it and respond in that discussion if they know answers.
When you click the top link to "Forums", you can then click on the General dulcimer/music forum.... once there, click the "+" Plus button to create a NEW discussion with your question and your own thread title. 

Thanks and welcome to FOTMD!  byebye


updated by @strumelia: 01/05/19 11:38:20AM
dtortorich
@dtortorich
01/05/19 09:03:05AM
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Hello, I'm based in Hattiesburg. Love to play my dulcimer and this past Christmas there were a lot of carols that sound magical on the instrument. Has anyone found a good medley of carols that sound good?
Strumelia
@strumelia
01/05/19 08:17:56AM
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“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


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Robin Thompson:

I think mountain dulcimer can be an acquired taste.  I've forced my husband to acquire a taste.  jive



Thanks for my laugh of the day, Robin!  biglaugh


Irene....all i can say is wow. Wonderful and amazing little peek into your music playing life. flower   And.. 14? You go, girl.


 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/05/19 08:03:03AM
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Lisa -- secret to not breaking strings when tuning is to always tune a "singing" string.  Hold the tuner knob you think is the right one.  Pluck the string and turn it 1/4 turn.  If the singing string does not change pitch -- STOP -- you have the wrong tuner.  

Strumelia
@strumelia
01/05/19 07:54:08AM
2,402 posts

Randy Wilkinson tab book for Elizabethan Music


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Does anyone know if Randy W is still around?  Even if his book is now out of print, perhaps if he knew folks were looking for them, he'd be willing to zerox a handful of copies for people, for a reasonable price of course.

Anne Bowman
@anne-bowman
01/05/19 06:23:29AM
59 posts

Randy Wilkinson tab book for Elizabethan Music


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Hey    @Maddie-Myers ! , Like Dusty, I've been after that book for ages too!. I did Renaissance and Baroque dance for 20 years, and love Early Music. I've been trawling around searching for it..I wish I'd thought to ask here ..and there's been a copy here in Oz all the timeworried ..

Lucky you Dusty ...

dtortorich
@dtortorich
01/05/19 12:30:28AM
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This is Bro Dave from Hattiesburg, MS. I play with the Magnolia Strings. Will post a picture of the group shortly. Mr. Paul Sykes and his wife Betty are our leaders. Anyone heard of them?
dtortorich
@dtortorich
01/05/19 12:28:42AM
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Hey Gang, Anyone heard of a dulcimer tune, Picking Pickled Peppers? If so, please send me the Youtube or website address, etc. so I can hear it. Thanks
Lisa
@lisa
01/04/19 11:53:46PM
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Thanks for all the kind words!

Susie, I would love to go the Evart, but someone else already requested that weekend off.  I’ll have to ask, since generally, only one of us are allowed vacation at a time.  

I’ve read your pdf’s Ken, every helpful to a newbie like me, thanks!

It’s going to be a while before I play any events, though I could see how dulcimer music would be really nice during our tree lighting/rememberance ceremony.

On another note, I got my second-hand cardboard dulcimer today, three days earlier then expected!  I’m going to have fun with it this weekend.  I already managed to break one string trying different tunings, lucky I bought a pack on my way home.  DAc sounds pretty cool, I really dig it, though I better stick with DAa for now.  

Anyhooo, it’s an ugly cuss, painted brown cardboard, the neck is pretty rough cut with no strum area scooped out, but the fretting is pretty good according to my tuner, so that’s all that matters right now.  There is no fretboard, it’s just a plank with frets pressed into it.  I guess I’ll name it Plank.  It’s a lot of fun, and my dogs enjoy it a lot more than my penny whistles.  Probably the best 27 bucks I spent in a long time.

 I don’t know if I’d bother putting this neck on a better body, but who knows, I’ve got cigar boxes laying around, and a huge exotic wood warehouse is a few blocks from where I work, Bell Forest Products.  They have instrument quality fretboard wood and neck wood all ready to go.  They also got this huge pile of the coolest scrap wood they sell by the pound, so I might go crazy and try to make a proper box body for Plank and shoot some roofing staples under the melody string to get some of the frets it’s missing (no 6.5 fret).  I certainly can’t make a worse box than the cardboard box it’s currently made from.  

I’m already very fond of Plank, I think a box upgrade is in the future.

Enjoy your weekend, Lisa

IRENE
@irene
01/04/19 07:49:51PM
168 posts

“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


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I play a lot of instruments as I wanted to teach our children the joy of knowing many instruments and we did a lot of caroling at Christmas time.   So when I got the dulcimer over 30 years ago, I got Jean Richie's book and one night I thought I was doing really well, and played for almost 2 hours....then I got this shout out from my husband in the bedroom, "LEARN ANOTHER INSTRUMENT!"   I still laugh at that one.   I found the remedy for that scene.   I brought home a very old autoharp (it had typewriter keys) and he picked it up as if he played it for years. I bought him a new autoharp.   We began playing together and that changed everything on him liking or disliking the dulcimer sound.   However, he doesn't like the minor keys.  Polynesians don't do a lot of minor songs....almost none for the Tongans.  We play our music daily.   He's taught me to play by ear by him choosing the songs 1/2 the time.  It is such a JOY to play music with each other.  I posted on this site in one of the other discussions of our family playing for a little T.V. show with 8 of our 14 children 30 years ago in Hawaii.  It's on youtube somewhere.  ha. 

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
01/04/19 07:40:20PM
1,548 posts

“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I'm ate-up by mountain dulcimer.  My husband is ate-up by guitar.  I think mountain dulcimer can be an acquired taste.  I've forced my husband to acquire a taste.  jive

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
01/04/19 07:34:57PM
1,846 posts

“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


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Almost every day, I am sitting playing the dulcimer and my wife smiles lovingly and then closes the door to whatever room I am in.  I get the hint.

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
01/04/19 07:24:59PM
143 posts

“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


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My wife didn't mind the dulcimer, but when I got a bowed psaltery....eek

Kevin R.
@kevin-r
01/04/19 04:10:04PM
17 posts

“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


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This is funny to me because it is similar to my wife’s comments. She just doesn’t get my love of old time traditional music, especially music played noter-drone style on a traditional dulcimer. Either I play very poorly or it is such a different sound to her ears that she doesn’t “get it”. Hahaha I have been playing guitar and singing for over 30 years. She likes and understands that. She also doesn’t understand that my music room is slowly being overtaken by so many different dulcimers. Soon I will have to take over more closet space in another room. But...I love it. Isn’t music great?!
Jimmy Lamar
@jimmy-lamar
01/04/19 02:23:50PM
41 posts

“Shinga Shing Shinga Shing Ching Chang”


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That’s how my wife described my dulcimer playing earlier this week. I am a beginner, and I only began playing about a month ago. That was the first time she had heard me play the dulcimer. I have been waiting until she goes to bed to play, so as not to bother her.

Later that evening, I asked her what she meant by that. She said she didn’t mean it in a bad way, but that “it was really different than your guitar”.

How did your spouse/significant other react when they first heard you playing?

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/04/19 01:04:56PM
1,315 posts

Sad News


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Here is a link if anyone wants to leave a tribute to Mike: https://www.nelsonfrazierfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Michael-Stephen-Slone?obId=3981475#/celebrationWall

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/04/19 12:49:53PM
1,315 posts

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Hello, Lisa. And, again, welcome to FOTMD. Looks like we have something else in common besides Marquette; I was a hospice chaplain for 28 years. I played my dulcimer for patients and for staff/volunteers. I played for our annual volunteer banquet, for our annual memorial service, and our annual tree lighting. The dulcimer is a good instrument for help in decompressing. Enjoy it.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Susie
@susie
01/04/19 09:11:13AM
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Hi Lisa, I'm in Gaylord. If you ever have the time, you should consider attending the Evart Dulcimer Fest (ODPC Funfest) in July. It is full of workshops for all levels and all instruments. I offered to meet another new player there many years ago, to help her along, and now we are great friends. If you choose to go, my sister and I will be there this year. BTW, I'm about your age, I'm 55. I play many instruments, including the Native American Flute. There are usually several workshops for NAF at Evart too. If you have questions, feel free to PM me.

http://evartdulcimerfest.org


updated by @susie: 01/04/19 09:11:45AM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/04/19 07:59:05AM
2,157 posts

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Hi Lisa;  Welcome to the wacky world of dulcimers.  I think you're going to fit right in!  A Cardboard dulcimer is a good, inexpensive place to start -- the frets are accurately place which means the notes are true.  Later, if you like, you can have a wooden body made (or make it yourself) and put the fretboard from your cardboard dulcimer on new body.  I did that recently for a student of mine, and it was pretty inexpensive to do.  

Here's a link to an article I wrote several years ago, called I Just Got A Dulcimer, Now What?   It's an illustrated glossary of dulcimer terms (so we all speak the same jargon) plus answers to many beginner questions about the tuning, playing, care and feeding of your new friend.  Good reading while you wait for your dulcimer to arrive...
https://fotmd.com/strumelia/group_discuss/2316/ken-hulmes-i-just-got-a-dulcimer-now-what-article  


Body for CB Dulcimer.JPG Body for CB Dulcimer.JPG - 75KB
Terry Wilson
@terry-wilson
01/03/19 11:45:45PM
297 posts

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Lisa, welcome to fotmd.com. You will meet many new friends here, who will help you in your journey with this wonderful instrument, called a dulcimer.

Often, I use a NAF in my assisted living home ministry. There are others too.

Good luck to ya.
Lisa
@lisa
01/03/19 10:56:23PM
21 posts

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Hi, I'm Lisa. I love in Marquette, Upper Michigan, two blocks from Lake Superior. I enjoy playing musical instruments, mainly woodwinds until now. clarinet, recorder, Native American flute, irish penny whistle and simple, cheap bamboo flutes. I was terrible at improvising until I took up NA flute five or so years ago, I couldn't let go and just play.
I've always loved string instruments, but have been frustrated by the learning curve. I'm not a singer, and just strumming chords was boring to me, and finger picking a six string or even a ukulele was beyond my level of patience and time. I do love playing the kalimba or thumb piano, I have a small collection of those. Very easy and fun to play.
I remembered in the 80s, one of my friends got a dulcimer kit for Christmas, which she and her dad built. I vaguely remember playing it a few times, but I was too into clarinet to be interested.
Now, my musical tastes have matured, and I enjoy world music, especially Irish traditional music, slow ballads, music along those lines.
While surfing youtube, I stumbled upon the dulcimer, and knew that's what I've been looking for.
I've got a cheap cardboard dulcimer on the way to use until I find a nicer one to purchase.
I'm currently reading the forums heavily to get a grasp of what I should be looking for, as whatever I get will come in the mail. There's nothing local for sale, and I don't know any players.
I'm glad there's such an active forum to read, it's very helpful for someone in my position.
In real life, I work as a care aide for a home health and hospice company. I'm kind of the jill of all trades, I work half in the office, half in the field doing visits and training new aides. Music is necessary for me to decompress, it can be extremely stressful at work.
I have a husband, 21 yr old stepson, three rescue dogs, and take care of my 89 year old mother, though she lives alone, for now. I'm 51 years old, and my job has taught me not to wait too long to do something important to you, life can get messy really fast. This is important to me, I'm really looking forward to my dulcimer journey.
Best regards, Lisa
Jan Potts
@jan-potts
01/03/19 04:01:11PM
402 posts

Sad News


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What a great Mike Slone story!  His personality comes shining through his words.  It would do us well to read this!  Thanks for sharing, Robin!

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/03/19 03:49:58PM
1,315 posts

Sad News


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Thanks for posting that link, Robin. It was something I was going to try to do this evening. I think that a nice piece on Mike.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Brian G.
@brian-g
01/03/19 07:08:17AM
94 posts

Sad News


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I'm very sorry to read this...

Jan Potts
@jan-potts
01/02/19 10:03:37PM
402 posts

Sad News


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I, too, was saddened to hear of Mike's death.  We used to chat quite a bit on here.  He helped a lot of people come to know and appreciate the mountain dulcimer.  My prayers go out for his friends and family.

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
01/02/19 09:33:28PM
442 posts

Sad News


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I don't know what to say to this news.  

To me, Mike was the embodiment of the old-time Kentucky dulcimer spirit.  A quiet and knowledgeable man who wanted to help others understand dulcimer history and mountain music.  He did his part to perpetuate the best of tradition.

Rest in peace, friend, and may God bless your family left behind.  Too sad...

Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
01/02/19 09:20:34PM
85 posts

Sad News


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So sorry to hear this, Ken. Thoughts and prayers to his family.
Strumelia
@strumelia
01/02/19 09:10:18PM
2,402 posts

Sad News


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Aw, that's terrible news. A great loss for so many music loving folks. My heart goes out to Mike's family.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/02/19 08:27:08PM
1,315 posts

Sad News


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Friends, I just received word that Mike Slone who worked with the Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming in Hindman, KY died. I copied this from the Appalachian Artisan Center Facebook post:

Arrangements for our dear friend and accomplished luthier apprentice, Mike Slone will be at Nelson Frazier Funeral Home. Visitation will be Friday January 4th six to nine p.m. and visitation on Saturday. Funeral will be Sunday January 6th at eleven a.m. with burial in the Slone Family Cemetery.

Mike Slone was a tenacious student of local musical heritage and in particular, of the dulcimers of "Uncle Ed" Thomas and McKinley Craft. In 2012, he began making quality replicas of these significant instruments at the AAC Luthiery and in 2014 was granted a KY Folk and Traditional Arts Apprenticeship Grant to further this work. He became a certified Community Scholar through the Kentucky Arts Council. He was a major contributor and curator of the Museum of the Mountain dulcimer, on permanent display in AAC's Cody building, and he coordinated the Hindman Dulcimer Festival in 2014 and 2015.


Mike Slone was the co-recipient of the 2016 Kentucky Governors Award in the Arts on behalf of the AAC's Hindman Dulcimer Project.

We hold Mike Slone's family in our hearts as we honor the memory of a "true original". A strong voice in the telling of the story of this region.

My sympathy goes out to Mike's family and friends. He was an enthusiastic proponent of the mountain dulcimer.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."



updated by @ken-longfield: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
granto
@granto
01/02/19 05:42:00PM
8 posts



I know this is an old post but I have an answer. I had the same question as you, Julie. I asked Ron at a festival if people ever tune a dulcimette, normally an octave higher, to a standard dulcimer tuning. He said some people have tried it but it just doesn't sound as good. 

Jimmy Lamar
@jimmy-lamar
01/02/19 05:10:00PM
41 posts

What songs were you taught in kindergarten/grade school?


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"This Land Is My Land"

"Oh, Shenandoah"

"Old McDonald"

"She'll Be Comin' 'Round The Mountain"

"On Top Of Old Smokey"

"The Bonnie Banks O' Loch Lomand"

I know there were more, but these are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

My favorite one, of which I can't remember the title, went something like this: " There was a little princess a long time ago".  If anyone can remember this song, that would be great.

 

Jimmy Lamar
@jimmy-lamar
12/31/18 10:36:06AM
41 posts

what was your first song on the dulcimer?


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I just got my first mountain dulcimer a couple of months ago, so I’m still wet behind the ears. But, being a songwriter, my first song was an original entitled “What’s It Look Like?”. I didn’t write the words yet though, because I’m still trying to get the chords worked out. I thought It sounded pretty darn good until I recorded it. Holy cow is it slow! There are long breaks between chords, because I don’t have that muscle memory yet. Whew! Hey, but that’s why we record right, so we can hear our mistakes?
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