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robert schuler
@robert-schuler
02/27/15 11:19:56AM
257 posts

playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Dulcimers were always three stringed. Some designs had weak sounding melody and a double string was added. That became the norm. I always play with one melody. You can remove either one and see how it feels. You can always move the single melody into the open slot on the nut, whatever works... Bob.
Skip
@skip
02/27/15 11:07:06AM
389 posts

playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I loosen the inside one and pull it over the side, makes a spare if needed. This gives me an even spacing between strings.

Monica
@monica
02/27/15 11:01:06AM
64 posts

playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I am focusing more on finger picking, using both pick and bare fingers as i am learning celtic songs and finding that the 2 melody strings don't sound great. Which melody string would you recommend that I remove , the one on the outside or inside?

thanks


updated by @monica: 06/11/15 07:42:40AM
RavenMadd Garcia
@ravenmadd-garcia
02/28/15 08:44:07PM
41 posts



I'd say have a pro builder look at it ..there are a few here ask around

Dan Goad
@dan-goad
02/25/15 07:19:43PM
155 posts



Joshua, Talk to Keven Messinger. He lives in Bruceton Mills, WV and is a dulcimer builder and does some restorations as well.


updated by @dan-goad: 02/15/16 10:04:52PM
Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
04/08/15 01:02:42PM
74 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thank you Lexie, I'm so glad Lynn Austin is building these now.

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
04/08/15 11:43:29AM
229 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Excellent, I love the sounds of your Kantele Cynthia. It is nice to have all three songs in one place.

Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
04/08/15 08:05:39AM
74 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Vermont Kantele Maker

Just as I thought, Lynn Austin of southern Vermont has a new 5 string kantele up on ebay for sale, her second one. I knew she wouldn't be able to resist making them. And it's a beauty, for all of you who want to enter this wonderful world.

Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
04/04/15 09:03:13AM
74 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks Lynn, I couldn't have done it without you. There are tunes here, so I'm wondering whether it's the bells or the old Finnish tune you're talking about...wait until you hear Supplication with improv. and...I'm thinking soundholes...cross with thorns maybe?

Lynn austin
@lynn-austin
04/04/15 03:40:44AM
19 posts

Kantele


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Cynthia, I don't know how I missed this post earlier. That was lovely!!!...I find that tune mesmerizing....
Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
02/26/15 06:29:06AM
74 posts

Kantele


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Aw shucks Patty thanks, I do work hard at things though...sure am loving that instrument though.

Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
02/26/15 06:26:58AM
74 posts

Kantele


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Steph thank you, I sort of did this one so people thinking about it can hear what you can do with the 5-string. It is not tab, it's music, but not so hard to learn 5 notes if those who can't read music. Lani's first book teaches that and she has several, so for those who don't play by ear, you'd have plenty of music. She seems to be the only one writing books for it.

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
02/25/15 09:36:16PM
231 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Cynthia, you are very talented. I love it that you are showing us the kantele. It's a beautiful sounding instrument. Wunderbar!!!

Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
02/25/15 03:18:59PM
74 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thank you Lexie, that is the song that bewitched me first, and now playing that simple 5 note song, I'm even more convinced there's a lot of magic in that strange instrument...I think you might just have some fun with a 5 string. I may actually learn to make them. Never know...

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
02/25/15 03:05:22PM
229 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Cynthia, I loved that song, very pretty to hear the bells.

You are really going on that Kantele and love hearing you play. Keep em coming!

Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
02/25/15 02:02:30PM
74 posts

Kantele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Here's s sweet Finnish folk tune trad. played on 5 string kantele, which I'm playing on my 10 string as I don't have a 5. This is something not so do-able on a noter/drone dulcimer!

Supplication (Sacred Harp)

and my first song played a couple of days after I got it:

I'm having fun with my 10 string kit from Musicmakers made by Lynn Austin.


updated by @cynthia-wigington: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
john p
@john-p
03/05/15 08:27:48AM
173 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Has as much to do with availability as anything else I think Grahame.

Where did you get a dulcimer from back in those days? It took me nearly a year to find one, and I was really looking ... and it was crap. I ended up almost rebuilding the thing.
Joni Mitchell broke hers on tour and her Road Manager was near to desperation trying to find a replacement. There just wasn't that many instruments around.

As I remember those days, Irish bands were more interested in adding mandolins and bazoukis anyway.

The other side has more to do with what the record distribution companies put out, Steeleye Span were one of the few and Tim Hart got featured. Otherwise it was small lables like Bill Leader's that carried a few players, Roger Nicholson, Pete & Chris Coe, Stephan Sobell etc.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/05/15 07:13:30AM
2,157 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


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Imagine the Mama's and the Papa's with Richard and Mimi instead of Michelle and John. That's what could have evolved...
Grahame Hood
@grahame-hood
03/05/15 04:02:37AM
6 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


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I have always wondered how Richard Farina's music would have developed had he not died so young. Compare their two albums, the second one is much rockier with more conventional instrumentation, and dare I say it, a more straightforward writing style. Would he have given up the dulcimer altogether and become a rocker!?!

Grahame

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/05/15 01:06:46AM
1,851 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Right you are, Ken. I don't think there would have been a California dulcimer scene back in the 1970s had it not been for Joni and Richard.

Here is Joni:

Here are Richard and Mimi:

Here is Cyndi Lauper:

Ken, you'll be happy to see that Faria is using a noter. And I have to smile when Pete Seeger asks "What key? D?"

By the way, many years ago Neal Hellman put out a book in which he transcribed every dulcimer tune by RichardFaria. The book is long out-of-print, but Neal has made a pdf available online free of charge. Follow the links in his blog called LiberatingFaria .

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/04/15 10:15:58PM
2,157 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Joni Mitchell although she was a solo performer. Richard&Mimi Faria duo (she was sister of Joan Baez)

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/04/15 05:29:46PM
1,851 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I wouldn't call it folk/rock, but Cyndi Lauper has been playing dulcimer on stage and TV for the last few years.

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
03/01/15 03:06:06PM
257 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Another band from around 1968 was.... A cid Symphony.. You can find there one and only album on you tube... Bob.
Pete Staehling
@pete-staehling
02/27/15 08:52:05AM
5 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


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Kenny Loggins current group Blue Sky Riders uses a dulcimer, the Rolling Stones song Lady Jane used a dulcimer, and I think Take Me to the Other Side by Aerosmith did as well.

joe sanguinette
@joe-sanguinette
02/26/15 05:22:19AM
73 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


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David Schnafer played with the Judds on some of their country/rock albums. also John Foggarty has used one

of mine on several albums in very brief lead in solo's

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
02/26/15 04:12:15AM
420 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


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Grahame, I can't think of a folk rock band in the US which used a dulcimer. My 1st record with a dulcimer on it was Steeleye Span's "Below the Salt." I had no idea there was a dulcimer on it nor what a dulcimer was 'til a trip to Mt View, Arkansas the next year.

Grahame Hood
@grahame-hood
02/26/15 03:58:48AM
6 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Of course I am forgetting Gay Woods of Irish duo Gay & Terry Woods. She played dulcimer in their duo and also on "The Woods Band" album, notably on "January Snows" . G &T were also in briefly in Dr Strangely Strange but never officially recorded with them though there is a very poor quality tape of them playing a gig in Bunjies. London, which shows that the two acts just joined repertoires.

Grahame

Linda W. Collins
@linda-w-collins
02/25/15 05:25:43PM
24 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Val, I would love to hear that recording! Paul Brady on dulcimer with Mick Moloney - wow!

Linda

www.cabinhillmusic.com

MacAodha
@macaodha
02/25/15 04:54:28PM
34 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Grahame it was used sparsely down through the years by different bands and musicians. I gave examples of it's use by different musicians from the 60's to the present day some years ago. My first encounter with the dulcimer in Irish music was Paul Brady backing Mick Moloney on a 1969 LP by the Johnston's. Mick Moloney played The Kilfenora Jig on the Mandolin and Paul did the backing on Dulcimer.

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
02/25/15 01:37:31PM
257 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I saw my first dulcimer in Steeleye Span, although I heard Brian Jones before them, I didn't make the dulcimer connection. I played in many a late 60s early 70s bands. I brought a dulcimer to a jam in 73 and nobody cared to listen to it. Back then it was all about power and feedback, I have the damaged hearing to remind me of those days. Today I have a great appreciation for ITM. No question about it, there is room for a dulcimer in a session. You just need folk's bringing dulcimers along... Bob
Grahame Hood
@grahame-hood
02/25/15 01:23:17PM
6 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

While there seems to have been plenty of UK folk rock bands using dulcimer occasionally in the early 70s (Fairport Convention/Steeleye Span/Strawbs/Trees/Mr Fox/Five Hand Reel etc) is anyone aware of it being used by Irish bands or US folk/rock bands? I can't think of any! Am I wrong? Why do people think this is? Why has the dulcimer never taken off in Ireland when it so obviously suits their folk music?

Grahame


updated by @grahame-hood: 06/11/15 07:42:39AM
Jan Potts
@jan-potts
02/27/15 10:48:36PM
402 posts



I have a standard Banjammer, a smaller Banjammer "Cutie", and a Cousin Clem box dulcimer. Love 'em all!

Oliver Ogden
@oliver-ogden
02/25/15 08:18:21AM
4 posts



I saw this one before , there are several good videos on Mike Clemmer's dulcimer's.This past Jan I ordered two of Mike's dulcimer's one is his fiddle side 5 string and the other is his banjammer. the thing I dom't like is the wait, 3 to 4 months.

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
02/24/15 11:37:18AM
229 posts



Fabulous Mark, made me want to go visit the Clemmers well at the very least buy one of their dulcimers.

Susie
@susie
02/24/15 09:26:48AM
516 posts



Loved the video. Thank you!

Kimberly Anne Schultz
@kimberly-anne-schultz
05/15/15 04:21:09PM
5 posts



Thanks! I just saw this now....and I just put it on the calendar to reserve the date for Bing's show. We'll be there! :-)


Sarah Hobart said:

So sorry I didn't see this.
I got too late a start to do a workshop event this year, but we are bringing Bing Futch in for a concert. Hope you can join us!

http://www.whippoorwilltheatre.com/events.html

Kimberly Anne Schultz
@kimberly-anne-schultz
04/04/15 11:08:12AM
5 posts



Just curious, any updates? My husband is currently trying to peg me (just this morning during breakfast) to give him a run down of my own summer schedule to coordinate with his summer plans and time off, etc....and I told him that I don't wanna miss anything in regards to this. Bing doesn't have any Iowa dates confirmed quite yet.

Mark Gebhart
@mark-gebhart
03/24/15 10:15:46PM
1 posts



I am originally from southwest Iowa but have relations all over the state. This would give me one more excuse to visit more often.

Kimberly Anne Schultz
@kimberly-anne-schultz
02/25/15 02:16:30PM
5 posts



Yes! I live in Cedar Rapids, but I have ease of travel to Des Moines, just 2 hours west, we go there all the time for various reasons. Bing Futch is preparing for a cross country tour. I suggested Iowa and he asked for suggestions, as he said he has always wanted to check it out. This would be perfect as D.M. would be the best city for it. I will let him know you want to start one there. You should be in contact with him! If I can be of any help to you at all from my locale, let me know. I'm an easy going and flexible person and open to helping with whatever your needs are. I can also help promote it especially around my part of the state, etc. If someone as inspirational as Bing can make it to the festival, that may encourage people to travel from surrounding states as well. I am studying his method book for chromatic dulcimer at the moment.....it is so wonderful. Anyway, looking forward to this!

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/17/15 02:39:07PM
2,404 posts



Awesome, thanks!

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