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John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
04/08/26 09:04:57AM
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Troublesome Creek on PBS


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What an excellent update on the work going on in Hindman!  Now folks everywhere can see what's really happening in the factory with these workers in recovery.  Doug has started a meaningful enterprise, with world-class musical instruments being made and lives being changed.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
04/08/26 08:31:09AM
1,568 posts

Troublesome Creek on PBS


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Thanks for sharing this wonderful PBS News Hour segment on the Troublesome Creek Stringed Instrument Company!  The folks there on the bank of Troublesome are doing wonderful work!  

Also, I hope it comes to pass that the 2026 installment of the Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming will take place! 

David Bennett
@david-bennett
04/08/26 08:24:15AM
64 posts

Book Miller's Song or Bookmiller's Tune


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I have not found out anything about the tune called by many "Bookmiller's Tune" but I have found out some background info about the person that the tune in question is attributed to.

 

Bookmiller Shannon (1903–1985) was born Carlos Marvin Shannon January 16, 1908 on Cow Mountain, Stone County, Arkansas. BTW Cow Mountain is 1237 feet high. I have no idea how he got the nickname "Bookmiller", that is how he referred to himself, and so that's how I am referring to him from hereon out.

 

Bookmiller died on June 28, 1985 in Mountain View, Stone County, Arkansas.

 

He served in the U.S. Army during World War II for about three and a half years.

 

As far as I can ascertain he had no dulcimore connections other than some dulcimer players like to play the song called   Bookmiller's Tune .

 

Bookmiller was a traditional American folk musician and old-time banjo player from the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas who acquired fame in folk circles and with his recordings for Alan Lomax. His father was a fiddler, named Andy Shannon. Bookmiller played fiddle with fellow Stone County native Jimmie “Driftwood” Morris and others in the Stone County area.

 

In October 1959 in Timbo, Arkansas, Bookmiller recorded several banjo tunes for Alan Lomax and was the only performer recorded during the North Arkansas sessions not born in the 1800s. His recordings were also a part of a 1972 recording by National Geographic. He also played around the country to include a concert at the University of California at Berkeley and he was a member of the delegation of musicians and businessmen who traveled to Washington D. C. to entertain and lobby for the funds for the Folk Center in Mountain View.

 

A song he played, titled "Down In Arkansas Among The Sticks" is recognizable if you are familiar with the TV show, Hee Haw. https://archive.culturalequity.org/field-work/southern-us-1959-and-1960/timbo-1059/down-arkansas-among-sticks

 

In the 1970s Bookmiller made an appearance in a couple of movies. He had a small, non-speaking role as an extra in the 1970 film "Bloody Mama," starring Shelley Winters as Ma Barker. In this movie he played his banjo alongside other musicians from Stone County, Arkansas and several local residents were hired as extras. The movie was partially filmed in northern Arkansas. 

 

It is said he also was used as an extra or other minor role, along with other locals from Timbo, in the 1974 film Bootleggers. This movie was filmed entirely in Arkansas, and starred Slim Pickens and Jaclyn Smith.

 

Despite his war service, his recording with Lomax and the two movie roles he lived a very simple life. In an interview conducted at the Timbo schoolhouse on April 18, 1970 with Gary Wormbrod of the Southwestern Folklore class Bookmiller related, "...I was born on this mountain between here and Mountain View, that's on the right as you go down there, called Cow Mountain. My home then was on the east side, west side of it. Most of my life, only what time I spent 3 1/2 years in the service; I was away then." When asked what his occupation was he replied, "I don't have much occupation. I'm a truck farmer and gardener and so on, is all I do. I'm kind of knocked out, disability, draw a little disability check. . . . Social security started now, I'm 62, so it's just barely started. It's a poor living, but I'm getting by."
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
04/07/26 10:56:06PM
1,350 posts

Troublesome Creek on PBS


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Last night (4/6/26) PBS News Hour featured The Road to Recovery program and the Troublesome Creek Stringed Instrument Company in its final segment of the broadcast. I thought they did a good job. Here is a link to the video: Rebuilding I hope you enjoy it. I spoke with Doug Naselroad shortly after the segment aired and he told me he hopes to hold the 2026 Hindman Dulcimer Homecoming the 5th, 6th, & 7th of November if funding for it comes through.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."


updated by @ken-longfield: 04/07/26 11:02:46PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/07/26 09:54:15PM
1,866 posts

Book Miller's Song or Bookmiller's Tune


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@david-bennett, I tabbed out Corky Wolf's version.  Send me a personal message with your email or contact me at www.rivercitydulcimers.com and I'll share it with you.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/07/26 03:48:07PM
1,866 posts

Book Miller's Song or Bookmiller's Tune


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David, there was a banjo player from Arkansas named Carlos "Bookmiller" Shannon.  Alan Lomax recorded some of his tunes in the late 1950s.

My guess is that someone learned a tune from Bookmiller but couldn't remember the name and just started calling it "Bookmiller's Tune" or something like that.

I just looked on Spotify and the only tune by Bookmiller Shannon is "Eighth of January."  But those Lomax recordings must be around somewhere. Maybe there's some other stuff, too.

P.S.  I could probably tab it out based on the recordings, but I won't be able to get to it for a couple of days.


updated by @dusty: 04/07/26 09:16:40PM
David Bennett
@david-bennett
04/07/26 02:55:33PM
64 posts

Book Miller's Song or Bookmiller's Tune


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Here's someone else playing the same tune

David Bennett
@david-bennett
04/07/26 01:18:44PM
64 posts

Book Miller's Song or Bookmiller's Tune


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Do any of you know a dulcimer song by the name of Book Miller's Song or Bookmiller's Tune?
I am looking for a friend who first heard it at a jam in Mountain View, Arkansas several years ago. He is wanting to know the background/history of the tune and where to get the tabs.

I did find this on YouTube "Bookmiller's Tune" which my friend is the song he is looking for:

This may or may not be the same tune, I can't tell because I can't get the volume loud enough to hear
https://soundcloud.com/omareastwind/bookmiller-39-s-tune

Any info would be appreciated.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/06/26 10:03:01PM
1,866 posts

What Are You Working On?


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Hi @maddie-myers.  I hope you're doing well.  I'm sure "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" would sound great in fingerstyle arrangement.

To get a more complete answer about microphones and cameras, you might want to join the Technology/Software/Amplifying group and pose your question there.

Yes, I think the first USB mic I ever bought was a Samson Go mic. Back then they cost about $40.  Now they are almost twice that.  They are really small and portable and have much better sound than any mic built into your computer or webcam.  Nowadays I use a Blue Yeti USB mic, which cost about $100 and is much bigger than the Samson Go. But I think the sound quality is better as well. It seems simple, but what I like most about it is that it has a big volume knob right on the front, and if you push it, it mutes you, with a noticeable red circle indicating that it's muted.  Pretty idiot-proof.

Those are only the microphones I've used, but there are lots out there.

I use several Logitech webcams, including a C920S Pro, a C925e, and a StreamCam Plus.  They are all several years old, so there might be newer models around with faster speeds.  They all produce very clear images and all have built-in microphones.  The microphones are very good for a work meeting, but not so hot for recording music.  My only advice about webcams is to make sure you get a lens cover.  Being able to glance up and know for certain that no one can see you is invaluable! tmi

Maddie Myers
@maddie-myers
04/06/26 05:02:13AM
11 posts

What Are You Working On?


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Hi, Dusty - greetings from SW Western Australia.  Been a long time. I'm working on "You Don't Bring Me Flowers," finger style.  It's kind of a funny choice because my wonderful other half brings me flowers often, but I do love the song, anyway!  Not sure, but I may still be the only mountain dulcimer player in Western Australia.  shrugger It's a lonely road. Your 'Moon Shadow' sounds good.  I don't think I would have thought to try that on dulcimer, but you make it work.  Onya!!  I have a probably unrelated reason for writing.  I looked at a post you made with Anne Bowman like 10 years ago about microphones.  My old computer has neither a camera nor a mike.  I want to join in on the many dulcimer social sites but can't record or film myself because I don't know how or have the equipment.  You recommended a Samson something-or -other mike, but from 10 years ago, surely there are improvements? Can you tell me what you use these days?  Also, what about a camera?  Any and all help would be much appreciated.  Thanks in anticipation.  

Mike the Beginner
@mike-the-beginner
04/05/26 09:52:33PM
1 posts

McSpadden 'Skunk Stripe' Mountain Dulcimer, UNPLAYED


FOR SALE:instruments/music items/CDs/Wanted to Buy...

Beautiful McSpadden 4FHWR hourglass mountain dulcimer (4-string), made in 2016.

This is a high-quality, all-solid wood instrument with walnut back/sides and a redwood top. Features a pretty "skunk stripe" (that's what I call it) on the back where the walnut sapwood meets at the join—see picture.

Condition is never played (displayed only), extremely clean. A few slight marks of wear. Call it Ex+ or Ex++. I included two pictures that show the worst blemish, first the area of the top where the blemish is, to the left of the heart on the left; and then a picture that shows a closeup with a flashlight held at an angle. I could not get it to show up any better than that.

Includes original soft gig bag, navy blue with embroidered logo. Will be carefully packed. Shipping to U.S. only please. It may take me a few days to ready it for shipping as I do not yet have a box large enough. I will tell you the whole cost including shipping before you pay.

These currently sell new for around $545. Asking $425 plus shipping. Offers welcome. 

Happy to answer questions or provide additional photos.

Mike

Western New York State


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Shopdad
@shopdad
04/05/26 07:25:38AM
28 posts

Happy Easter


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Have a blessed Easter to everyone from the ShopDad house hold as well.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/04/26 11:20:44PM
1,866 posts

What Are You Working On?


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Noodling around this morning, I found the entire melody for Cat Stevens's "Moonshadow."  The only non-diatonic melody note is a G#, which we get on the middle string at the 6+ fret.  It took a while to arrange this one, partly because the rhythm is a lot more complicated than it seems.   There is just a lot of syncopation.

For example, here is the beginning of the part of the song that goes "If I ever lose my hands."  Note that after the first note come 6 straight notes that all begin on the offbeat (meaning the "and" if we count "1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and").

Moonshadow example.jpg

I could have written them all as quarter notes (or a dotted quarter for the last one), but to make the off-beat rhythm clearer, I used tied eighth notes.

This was a nice project for a Saturday. And I still got the front lawn mowed! sun


updated by @dusty: 04/04/26 11:45:47PM
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
04/04/26 08:06:56PM
1,350 posts

Happy Easter


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Happy Easter to you as well Richard. 

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
04/04/26 05:00:49PM
278 posts

Happy Easter


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Happy Easter to all our friends on Friends of the Mountain Dulcimer.

Peter Losky
@peterlosky
04/04/26 01:57:50AM
3 posts

Here's a song I wrote. I string a dulcimer differently.


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www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2SpunacfFU

I play the dulcimer by stringing it with 3 strings, and reversing the strings on both sides of the middle a string. Meaning I put the wound D string where the treble d string usually goes, and I put the d treble string where the wound D string usually goes. I play with my thumb and fingers and it makes sense to play the 2 unwound melody strings with my fingers and the would bass string with my thumb, Setting up the stringing this way makes my playing style way easier. I also string a classical guitar with only 3 nylon strings and play it like I play my dulcimer on my lap ---- it produces a rich warm tone.


updated by @peterlosky: 04/04/26 02:01:37AM
Jill Geary
@jill-geary
03/31/26 01:10:00AM
33 posts

New Knopf Dulcimers website!


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Really nice John! Blessings and happy Easter!

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/30/26 08:30:07PM
1,350 posts

Freight Train Tab


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I agree that it is a Blue Lion.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strings Attached
@strings-attached
03/30/26 04:30:10PM
4 posts

Freight Train Tab


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Thanks! I think you're right!  I see that it does not have the one and a half fret but TT seems to do just fine without it!  I love how he plays it.

Strings Attached
@strings-attached
03/30/26 03:53:28PM
4 posts

Freight Train Tab


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Thank you! Thank you!

If anyone out there does know the TT video of this song, any idea what kind of md he is playing? It has a beautiful rich tone.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/30/26 03:16:37PM
1,866 posts

Freight Train Tab


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Hi Catherine.  First, I moved your question from the Site Questions Forum, which is intended for questions about this site (how to upload pictures, how to start a forum discussion, etc.) to the General Music Discussion Forum.  There is also a Group called "Help Me Learn This Song" which would be a good place to ask this question.

Secondly, I don't know the specific video you mention, but you can find the melody for Freight Train in either DAd or DAA.  If you play in DAA, the melody would start on the 7th fret and begin 7 - 5 - 4 - 3.  If you play in DAd, it would start 4 - 2 - 1 - 0 and then move to the second to the second fret of the middle string.

If you are playing with chords, the key to that song would be using a  2 - 2 - 2 F# chord for the "please don't tell them" part.

If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll try to post a video or some tab later on.  (I'm still at work right now.)

Strings Attached
@strings-attached
03/30/26 02:56:40PM
4 posts

Freight Train Tab


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In searching for a md version of freight train, I happened upon a video of Talmadge Taylor playing it. He sounded great but I couldn't figure out what tuning he was using. Does anyone have any idea? Or where I could find a md tab for the song?

I haven't posted in a long time, so can't remember it this is the right place to ask a question! Apologies, it it's not.

Thanks,

Catherine

Joseph Besse
@joseph-besse
03/30/26 10:04:17AM
53 posts

Used Wolf Hill Woodworking Sitting Down Playing Stand


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I would like to buy a used model of the Wolf Hill Woodworking Mountain Dulcimer sitting down playing stand. Please contact Joe Besse at:  joebesse@aol.com. Thanks.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/29/26 09:30:44AM
1,568 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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@dusty - Wow, how cool-- and it's especially nice your mom was there.! 

Lots of folks participated in International Appalachian Dulcimer Day-- on YouTube, Facebook, The Traditional Appalachian Dulcimore site, I listened to an audio recording on SoundCloud, and here at FOTMD.  There was participation from, at least, five countries.  dulcimer


updated by @robin-thompson: 03/29/26 09:31:43AM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/28/26 11:57:33PM
1,866 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Yeah, it was a good turnout today.  And it was the first time my mom had seen me lead a workshop.  I keep a dulcimer in my parents house for when I visit. If she wants to join again I should make her play along!dulcimer

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/28/26 11:47:22PM
2,417 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Dusty that is so great!   Very impressive number of participants, too.  
Good thing your mom was there, it insured that you behaved.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/28/26 09:24:29PM
1,866 posts

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day


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Happy International Appalachian Dulcimer Day, everyone!  The online workshop I run monthly met today.  @Lisa_C was kind enough to capture a screenshot. We had over 30 join, including my mom!  You can see my dulcimer and shiny balding head in the upper left-hand corner

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updated by @dusty: 03/28/26 09:25:14PM
Shopdad
@shopdad
03/28/26 06:31:52AM
28 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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I have found Richard Ash's book "Fret positioning fret guide" a tremendous help cutting fret slots. I have made several fret boards and repaired a few that weren't cut properly. The distance between two frets is important but the slots must be perfectly vertical. Hand cutting is fine but must be done when a person has the time to do it right. You are correct, Wally, the distance of each fret from the nut is crucial. Mr. Ash makes it clear in his book. He checks fret distance, over all distance and distance to nut. I'll admit, I'm a bit OCD, as its called, when cutting my fret boards. If the individual slots are off, by the time you get to the last cut it can be off enough to make a difference. With all this being said, let's not neglect string quality and cleanliness. As pointed out in earlier posts the type of wood is important too. Oh, Keep sound hole size and location in the formula too. Ha! I built a "CanJo" using a 1 Gal. lacquer thinner can. I never thought I would hear so much resonance come out of an old can. Anyone is welcome to let me know if all this is off the subject of temperament, but, from what I have learned since this thread began it all helps. 

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
03/27/26 11:46:04PM
142 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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Actually, it should be the distance of each fret from the nut, not the spacing between the frets. Otherwise an error at one fret throws all of the higher notes off.

Lilley Pad
@lilley-pad
03/27/26 10:28:29PM
79 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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Well that video is way over my head but if I understand what the guy is talking about is when the instrument maker is setting up the location of the frets on the fret-board,The distance from one to the other in the relationship To each other the distance ???

Shopdad
@shopdad
03/26/26 04:22:43PM
28 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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Yes, I just did some research on temperament and really got a head full of information. Yes, much is over my head,  but very interesting. I'll just stick to my tuning method and enjoy what I love, .the sweet song of the dulcimer. Going back and forth from guitar to dulcimer keeps me on my toes. Keeps the cobwebs cleared from the old grey cells

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/26/26 01:19:13PM
1,350 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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Very nice instruments, Shopdad. I just worry too much about temperament. I follow this philosophy.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."


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Shopdad
@shopdad
03/26/26 11:46:55AM
28 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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OK, now you guys have spurred my interest. It's time for some deep diving into temperament. Thanks Dan, all this is helping and explains a bit more each time. How long have you guys been dealing with this? Do makers of all string instruments understand the temperament. Skip, I use the note frequency on my instruments rather than just an eyeball on the balance point. I try to get the frequency as close as possible. Yes, the material in which the instrument is made is definitely a factor. I am careful not to install too much bracing inside just for that purpose. The tone/resonance on my homebuilt tear drop is about the same as the kit made from walnut. My next build will be another hourglass design so I may reopen this discussion with you. Maybe I'll have more knowledge about it and not sound as ignorant with my statements and questions :)   Here's a pic of the kit walnut Cedar Creek and my handmade teardrop mostly poplar and some oak bracing, Hand carved eagle head stock is also oak.


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Skip
@skip
03/26/26 11:13:44AM
390 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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Discussions on temperament can get very involved.

Temperaments are directly related to note frequency, not note names. This is because a notes frequency, for instance 'A', can be an 435 or 445, or larger spreads. In order to set a starting point, the note frequency of 'A' is designated as the base reference point. Another part of temperament is that they define the spacing between adjacent notes in a diatonic scale. There are many more pieces to the temperaments puzzle. 

A 'D4' is a 'D4' across all instruments, it may sound a bit different because of the material used to produce the note [frequency]. Just compare the note of the bass 7th fret to the open melody on a DAd tuned MD.

A D4 on an equal temperament MD may not sound/have the same frequency as a D4 on a differently tempered MD.


updated by @skip: 03/26/26 11:22:18AM
Shopdad
@shopdad
03/26/26 09:11:27AM
28 posts

Equal temperamant V Just intonation


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I haven't noticed any difficulty tuning my guitar. Totally different even if same note as Dulcimer. I chalk it up to the resonance of the guitar vs, the dulcimer. Diatonic to chromatic I guess.

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