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Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
04/20/25 11:11:14AM
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Help with restoring a 1962 Arthur Dixon dulcimer?


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I've use the method that John suggests except I've always measured with the dime on the saddle side of the first fret. I'm not sure it really makes too much difference which side of the fret it is on. For my dulcimers intended to be played noter style I usually raise the string height a little.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/20/25 09:26:54AM
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Help with restoring a 1962 Arthur Dixon dulcimer?


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Correct....I can't claim credit for the "hack"....but it's nice, simple, and worth a heap more than the .15 cent investment.........

Robert Owens
@robert-owens
04/20/25 09:24:25AM
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Help with restoring a 1962 Arthur Dixon dulcimer?


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Hey, I like that approach! I've got digital calipers and all that fancy stuff, but I like this more...thanks! (But just to clarify, when you say "before the first fret" for the dime, I assume you mean not on top of the 1st fret, but on the fretboard, right before it...right?)

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/20/25 09:04:20AM
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Help with restoring a 1962 Arthur Dixon dulcimer?


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I've heard this before [from Skip perhaps...] but a dime just before the first fret, and a nickel on top of the 7th. Do the dime [nut] first, then attack the bridge. As you are probably aware, it's a lot easier taking off not enough than taking off too much.....

Robert Owens
@robert-owens
04/20/25 07:57:46AM
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Help with restoring a 1962 Arthur Dixon dulcimer?


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Hello all. And thanks again for all of your help so far.
I'm happy to report that I have restored the dulcimer to pretty good shape, basically taking it apart and putting it back together again (using Titebond glue), so it feels pretty sturdy. I was able to fix the cracks, which I have reinforced with cleats, etc. I have also gotten rid of the bizarre tuning system, and have found some wooden pegs that that I have been able to make work for now, and I have gotten just a basic set of D'Addario EJ64 strings to start with (which gives me two 0.012 gauge strings for the melody & middle, and a 0.022 for the bass). And finally, I was able to make a new nut & bridge out of some ebony that I had on hand. 
SO...now I'm at the point of setting it up, and I have some questions about that. My main questions are about string spacing and nut & bridge (and string) height. I have found various opinions online about those subjects, but I thought I'd ask here for perhaps some more experienced voices. 
Just a reminder, if you saw the photos I posted originally (of mine and the one sold by Wilcutt), this dulcimer is just 3 strings, and the frets do not extend all the way across the fretboard. As I look at the Wilcutt example (see attached photo), it looks to me like the melody & middle strings are spaced about as far as they can be on the available fret length, and that the middle string is slightly closer to the bass string. Is this about what I should be shooting for in terms of spacing?
And as for nut & bridge (and string) height, I've seen various opinions about what it should be, ranging from the string height at the nut being 0.015-0.030" above the fret crown at the first fret, to the saddle being 1/16" above the 1st fret and 1/8" above the 17th, etc., etc. What say you?
Thanks!


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Robert Owens
@robert-owens
04/20/25 07:29:36AM
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Help with restoring a 1962 Arthur Dixon dulcimer?


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Thanks Strumelia. I thought I had replied to you the other day, but don't seem to see it here, so will repeat it here. I appreciate your helpful suggestions about string gauges, tuning pegs, etc. Now that I have basically taken apart and put back together the instrument, using Titebond glue, I feel like it's pretty sturdy and not as fragile as it had been. So I've ended up starting with just a set of D'Addario EJ64 strings (which I could get cheap and free shipping from StewMac, who I order a lot from), which gives me two 0.012 gauge strings for the melody & middle, and a 0.022 for the bass. And for the pegs, I did want to at least start with the original type of wooden friction pegs, to take it back closer to its original configuration...I may upgrade later. So I was able to find some inexpensive ones online that I was able to make work for now. Now I'm at the point of setting it up, and I have some questions about that, so I'll ask them in my next post, to everyone. Thanks for any additional advice! 

Debi
@debi
04/19/25 04:31:32PM
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New Harmony saddle?


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Hi,    The main purpose of that bridge is to adjust intonation, as I understand it.  Speak with Joe Collins, who is affiliated with NHD.  He is very helpful.  Good Luck!  

Lilley Pad
@lilley-pad
04/19/25 04:01:48PM
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New Harmony saddle?


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Anybody out there know anything about the New Harmony instruments bridge? The main question I have is about the Accutune module bridge. Any idea can you adjust the action and then lock everything into place so it doesn't get out of adjustment? Or you just adjust it for intonation, and no option for action, and it has a tendency to move out of place? 

Old Dawg
@old-dawg
04/19/25 08:04:41AM
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John Stockard Dulcimer


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Thanks Robin. It's one of the most finely crafted instruments I own. I would love to hear from anyone else that owns a Stockard dulcimer, as well as any info on how many he may have built, etc.

I am updating my homeowners insurance and would welcome any opinions on its value. It was so long ago I can't remember what I paid for it.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/19/25 12:58:31AM
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John Stockard Dulcimer


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I fixed the spelling in the title. And yes, John Stockard produced very elegant dulcimers with impeccable intonation.

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/19/25 12:23:54AM
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John Stockard Dulcimer


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VERY nice! I really like the headstock neck area....impressive.

Thanks for sharing.

Old Dawg
@old-dawg
04/18/25 10:05:24PM
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John Stockard Dulcimer


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Thanks Ken. It is obviously a John Stockard dulcimer. Misspelling error.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
04/18/25 09:49:47PM
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John Stockard Dulcimer


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Old Dawg, you might want to check the name of the maker of your dulcimer. The photo of the label says it is made by John Stockard. He was a builder in Georgia.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Old Dawg
@old-dawg
04/18/25 08:45:17PM
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John Stockard Dulcimer


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Many years ago I contacted John Stockard about building me a dulcimer. He told me he was no longer building but he would be willing to sell me one of his personal instruments. I bought it. It came in a "well traveled; soft case. The dulcimer was in excellent condition with minor wear. If I remember correctly, he called it his concert model. It has a beautiful, full round sound with excellent sustain. It is 38" long. The bouts are 8 1/4" and 6 3/4". It has gold Gotoh tuners. Attached are some photos I took this morning. Thanks in advance for any responses.

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John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/18/25 12:12:27PM
51 posts

recommendations for external pickup?


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https://www.amazon.com/Imelod-Contact-Microphone-Ukulele-Mandolin/dp/B01M5IB4X7

This one is nice in that it has only a 10 inch lead so you don't have wire hanging all over. The lead is braid instead of plain plastic. "looks" like some of the more expensive ones.... That being said, I know of no manufacturer that uses a different piezo element in its' pick ups.The plastic housings may look different, but electronically and mechanically they ALL are the same. The price points are based on marketing, not what is inside. And at under 10 bucks it is sure worth the trying either way......

I would suggest perhaps using a small square of "alien tape" to affix to the dulcimers top, no worries then of double sided tape marring your good looks.....

Nate
@nate
04/18/25 03:12:23AM
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Good dulcimer for busking?


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Since apparently amplification isn't allowed, you may want to consider a particularly loud dulcimer. Some dulcimers are quite a bit louder than others. There are a lot of options depending on what kind of tone you prefer. In general, larger dulcimers that can support heavier strings will often be a lot louder than smaller instruments, however if you are looking for something portable, you may need to compromise. 

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/18/25 02:48:48AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Remember to "dab" the area...don't "wipe", In case there is residual pencil marks etc,you don't want to rub them off.

I've exposed some "made for xxx" or dedications and poems over the years....Enjoy the quest!

paula
@paula
04/18/25 02:23:18AM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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That’s a great idea John. I’ve repacked the dulcimer so won’t be able to try that until I get back home with it in two weeks. I’ll let you know if I’m able to read anything.

Strumelia
@strumelia
04/17/25 09:32:27PM
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Good dulcimer for busking?


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Here's a handy page concerning busking/playing/performance on NYC subways:
https://www.mta.info/agency/arts-design/music/subway-performance-rules
You'll have to obey their stated rules on amplification (since you mention 'pickups'). 

A hardshell case might be good to protect your dulcimer while moving around/crowded stairwells, rain, etc.

One cheap solution might be to buy or build a wooden "possum board" to put your cardboard dulcimers on while playing acoustically... such boards do help increase volume and resonance, without electronics. You could make one to fit your existing instruments pretty easily. Do a site search here for "possum board" and you'll find lots of info.

Aditi
@aditi
04/17/25 07:05:58PM
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Good dulcimer for busking?


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I'm thinking about starting to busk in the NYC subways in the next few years (if/when I ever get the courage). Right now I have two Backyard Music dulcimers with cardboard soundboxes—one diatonic, one chromatic—but would love to acquire a more grown-up instrument with a built-in pickup that isn't TOO nice to the point where I'd worry about it getting broken in the subways. Do you have any recommendations? Should I instead get a guitar pickup for the cardboard dulcimers I already have and do my best with one of those? 

jerrytro
@jerrytro
04/17/25 04:09:25PM
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recommendations for external pickup?


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Asking for a friend.  We play in a group and sometimes need to plug in for a local performance.  My friend has a wonderful 26" walnut/sycamore McSpadden.  She meant when she ordered it to request a pickup, but didn't look at the order form closely enough and it was didn't happen.  We live in Alaska, so not feasible to take it to Mountain View.  Sending it in to add a pickup probably also doesn't work, as this is her main player and there'd be a least a month down time.  So, do any of you have recommendations for an external pickup?  I'd probably be interested myself for some of my more vintage dulcimers (for instance, I have a lovely 1991 teardrop Blue Lion).  Thanks in advance.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
04/17/25 02:58:00PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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Paula, I'm glad that you finally were able to connect with your Chet Hines dulcimer. Enjoy it. Let us know what you find if follow John's suggestion.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/17/25 01:56:46PM
51 posts

Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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That is SO nice! I always wished some of these instruments could talk and tell the tales of the past....Yours comes pretty close!  A water wet q-tip brushed over the old scratches may bring out enough contrast to read them...It'll evaporate with no harm done...

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/17/25 01:49:55PM
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Mountain Dulcimer on The Tonight Show


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Sometimes comments get embedded in forums on related topics.  Here was one place the video was posted , in a conversation on the popularity of the dulcimer.

TheMusicalDabbler
@themusicaldabbler
04/17/25 01:36:56PM
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Mountain Dulcimer on The Tonight Show


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I clearly was not using the search function correctly. I was very surprised to not find anything and will have to try again. Thanks for the reply!

paula
@paula
04/17/25 01:05:04PM
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Chet Hines “dulcimore”


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An update on my Chet Hines Dulcimer!

I was able to make it back to Texas today and am at my in-laws house where I had the dulcimer delivered. I finally got to see it in person. 

I had also found a copy of his book and had it delivered to their house as well. 

imagine my delight when I discovered on page 111of his book a picture of my very dulcimer. The grain is very distinctive and there’s no doubt it is my dulcimer. I’m so very excited to own this wonderful instrument. 

it does look like there may be an inscription visible through the lower sound holes. They look lightly scratched into the inside perhaps with a nail or an awl. I can’t be positive as there is little contrast between the inscription and the wood it’s on. Once I’m back home in Portugal I will try and see if I can bring that out. 

cheers everyone and thanks for your help with this project!

paula

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/17/25 11:48:12AM
51 posts

Free Tab books, New (taken)


FOR SALE:instruments/music items/CDs/Wanted to Buy...

Send 'em to norm3206....He's a newbie...

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/17/25 11:45:00AM
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Free Tab books, New (taken)


FOR SALE:instruments/music items/CDs/Wanted to Buy...

If you can send them media mail, I can Paypal or Zelle you at your convenience.

norm3206
@norm3206
04/17/25 11:43:21AM
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Free Tab books, New (taken)


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Good morning.  If you’ll ship international, I’d be happy to take them

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
04/17/25 09:06:24AM
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Free Tab books, New (taken)


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Volumes I, II, and III Playing the Dulcimer Made Easy by Jeff Lambert. DAA and DAd tabs. New unused. FREE. You pay shipping charges.

Information at dulcimersbyjeff.com. The cover pictures on mine are not the same but the contents are the same as his website shows.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
04/16/25 01:24:51PM
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Mountain Dulcimer on The Tonight Show


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There are a few other places around FOTMD where people discussed this video.  I am more impressed with Seyfried's singing than her dulcimer playing, but it's all pretty impressive.  And it's great to see the dulcimer get some mainstream attention.

TheMusicalDabbler
@themusicaldabbler
04/15/25 09:50:33PM
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Mountain Dulcimer on The Tonight Show


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I know this isn't super recent - I think it was about a month ago. (If someone posted about it on here already, I missed it, and do apologize.) I'm not up on TV shows or celebrities, but I enjoyed watching Amanda Seyfried play and it is fun that apparently the dulcimer got some recognition. happydance  

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/15/25 09:33:12PM
51 posts

2 dulcimer dilemma


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If they ask you to "jam" ....It's not the strawberry kind......

GreatLakes73
@greatlakes73
04/15/25 08:57:20PM
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2 dulcimer dilemma


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Thanks all for the comments. I'm only about 45 min north of the Janesville group, and they're quite active and welcoming online. There's a smaller group here in Madison, who are mostly all in the Janesville group as well. During my online chatter with the Janesville group I've identified several other folks near me who want to join up. I've already got an invite to a member's house this weekend to go over a few tunes. The community seems welcoming, relaxed, and just what I'm looking for 👍

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
04/15/25 08:29:05PM
257 posts

2 dulcimer dilemma


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Ah, the DAD malady has struck. That is "dulcimer acquisition disorder."  Thankfully  it is not fatal.

Seriously, I have a number of dulcimers. For the music I play I have found a particular song may sound better on one than the other. I have one tuned DAA, one in EBB, one in DAC, etc.  So enjoy adding to your collection. The more you have the more time you get to spend playing and enjoying them all.  The Warren May dulcimers are great instruments and expertly crafted.

TheMusicalDabbler
@themusicaldabbler
04/15/25 03:54:00PM
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2 dulcimer dilemma


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Thank you for posting this. I'm also a beginner, and also happen to have 2 very similar dulcimers (though not from the same builder). I think I will do exactly as you mention, and keep them in different tunings. I'm just starting to learn about and practice that, and I will be able to spend less time tuning that way. nod I can keep one in DAA, which I've used most, ready to enjoy things I already know, and use the other for DAD, and whatever comes next.

John Pettreemusic
@john-petry
04/15/25 11:21:35AM
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2 dulcimer dilemma


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 I wistfully think about some day having a flat-headed one......

And then there were three......That's how it starts.

If you are not in a dulcimer group, try and find one.   https://southernwisconsindulcimerclub.com/about/

This group is in Janesville, don't know if it's close to you.

Offer lessons? Offer to stumble along with another novice, learning together? The music may not sound great, but the fellowship is nice....

GreatLakes73
@greatlakes73
04/15/25 08:31:00AM
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2 dulcimer dilemma


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Hello all,

I have a very "spoiled" problem! Just starting out on the dulcimer with an hourdrop all-walnut model by Warren May that I bought from him last year: 6.5 fret present (as I think all his models have now), currently tuned to DAD. I then fell in love last week with an hourglass poplar model with a lot of green color, absolutely beautiful. It's currently being finished up in his workshop; admittedly an impulsive purchase which now leads to my questions ;)

Obviously I'm a novice and barely know what I'll end up needing/liking. That being said, how do I best take advantage of having two dulcimers by same luthier, each with a 6.5 fret, 4 strings, same length/size, different woods and different shapes? I know the woods will have different warmth/brightness, etc. Maybe keep the poplar in DAA? I'm interested in noter/drone playing although also joining a club nearby. Any thoughts appreciated! I'm quite probably over-thinking this as I don't have the second dulcimer in my hands yet!

PS: every time I need to restring, I wistfully think about some day having a flat-headed one 😉

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