playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking
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Thats a good idea Skip !!
Thanks for the tip Robert :)
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playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking
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Dulcimers were always three stringed. Some designs had weak sounding melody and a double string was added. That became the norm. I always play with one melody. You can remove either one and see how it feels. You can always move the single melody into the open slot on the nut, whatever works... Bob.
playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking
General mountain dulcimer or music discussions
I loosen the inside one and pull it over the side, makes a spare if needed. This gives me an even spacing between strings.
playing 3 strings versus 4 ,for finger picking
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I am focusing more on finger picking, using both pick and bare fingers as i am learning celtic songs and finding that the 2 melody strings don't sound great. Which melody string would you recommend that I remove , the one on the outside or inside?
thanks
updated by @monica: 06/11/15 07:42:40AM
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Thank you Lexie, I'm so glad Lynn Austin is building these now.
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Excellent, I love the sounds of your Kantele Cynthia. It is nice to have all three songs in one place.
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Vermont Kantele Maker
Just as I thought, Lynn Austin of southern Vermont has a new 5 string kantele up on ebay for sale, her second one. I knew she wouldn't be able to resist making them. And it's a beauty, for all of you who want to enter this wonderful world.
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Thanks Lynn, I couldn't have done it without you. There are tunes here, so I'm wondering whether it's the bells or the old Finnish tune you're talking about...wait until you hear Supplication with improv. and...I'm thinking soundholes...cross with thorns maybe?
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Cynthia, I don't know how I missed this post earlier. That was lovely!!!...I find that tune mesmerizing....
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Aw shucks Patty thanks, I do work hard at things though...sure am loving that instrument though.
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Steph thank you, I sort of did this one so people thinking about it can hear what you can do with the 5-string. It is not tab, it's music, but not so hard to learn 5 notes if those who can't read music. Lani's first book teaches that and she has several, so for those who don't play by ear, you'd have plenty of music. She seems to be the only one writing books for it.
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Cynthia, you are very talented. I love it that you are showing us the kantele. It's a beautiful sounding instrument. Wunderbar!!!
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Thank you Lexie, that is the song that bewitched me first, and now playing that simple 5 note song, I'm even more convinced there's a lot of magic in that strange instrument...I think you might just have some fun with a 5 string. I may actually learn to make them. Never know...
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Cynthia, I loved that song, very pretty to hear the bells.
You are really going on that Kantele and love hearing you play.
Keep em coming!
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Here's s sweet Finnish folk tune trad. played on 5 string kantele, which I'm playing on my 10 string as I don't have a 5. This is something not so do-able on a noter/drone dulcimer!
and my first song played a couple of days after I got it:
I'm having fun with my 10 string kit from Musicmakers made by Lynn Austin.
updated by @cynthia-wigington: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands
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Has as much to do with availability as anything else I think Grahame.
Where did you get a dulcimer from back in those days? It took me nearly a year to find one, and I was really looking ... and it was crap. I ended up almost rebuilding the thing.
Joni Mitchell broke hers on tour and her Road Manager was near to desperation trying to find a replacement. There just wasn't that many instruments around.
As I remember those days, Irish bands were more interested in adding mandolins and bazoukis anyway.
The other side has more to do with what the record distribution companies put out, Steeleye Span were one of the few and Tim Hart got featured. Otherwise it was small lables like Bill Leader's that carried a few players, Roger Nicholson, Pete & Chris Coe, Stephan Sobell etc.
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Imagine the Mama's and the Papa's with Richard and Mimi instead of Michelle and John. That's what could have evolved...
Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands
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I have always wondered how Richard Farina's music would have developed had he not died so young. Compare their two albums, the second one is much rockier with more conventional instrumentation, and dare I say it, a more straightforward writing style. Would he have given up the dulcimer altogether and become a rocker!?!
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Right you are, Ken. I don't think there would have been a California dulcimer scene back in the 1970s had it not been for Joni and Richard.
Ken, you'll be happy to see that Faria is using a noter. And I have to smile when Pete Seeger asks "What key? D?"
By the way, many years ago Neal Hellman put out a book in which he transcribed every dulcimer tune by RichardFaria. The book is long out-of-print, but Neal has made a pdf available online free of charge. Follow the links in his blog called LiberatingFaria .
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Joni Mitchell although she was a solo performer. Richard&Mimi Faria duo (she was sister of Joan Baez)
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I wouldn't call it folk/rock, but Cyndi Lauper has been playing dulcimer on stage and TV for the last few years.
Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands
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Another band from around 1968 was.... A cid Symphony.. You can find there one and only album on you tube... Bob.
Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands
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Kenny Loggins current group Blue Sky Riders uses a dulcimer, the Rolling Stones song Lady Jane used a dulcimer, and I think Take Me to the Other Side by Aerosmith did as well.
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David Schnafer played with the Judds on some of their country/rock albums. also John Foggarty has used one
of mine on several albums in very brief lead in solo's
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Grahame, I can't think of a folk rock band in the US which used a dulcimer. My 1st record with a dulcimer on it was Steeleye Span's "Below the Salt." I had no idea there was a dulcimer on it nor what a dulcimer was 'til a trip to Mt View, Arkansas the next year.
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Of course I am forgetting Gay Woods of Irish duo Gay & Terry Woods. She played dulcimer in their duo and also on "The Woods Band" album, notably on "January Snows" . G &T were also in briefly in Dr Strangely Strange but never officially recorded with them though there is a very poor quality tape of them playing a gig in Bunjies. London, which shows that the two acts just joined repertoires.
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Val, I would love to hear that recording! Paul Brady on dulcimer with Mick Moloney - wow!
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Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands
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Grahame it was used sparsely down through the years by different bands and musicians. I gave examples of it's use by different musicians from the 60's to the present day some years ago. My first encounter with the dulcimer in Irish music was Paul Brady backing Mick Moloney on a 1969 LP by the Johnston's. Mick Moloney played The Kilfenora Jig on the Mandolin and Paul did the backing on Dulcimer.
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I saw my first dulcimer in Steeleye Span, although I heard Brian Jones before them, I didn't make the dulcimer connection. I played in many a late 60s early 70s bands. I brought a dulcimer to a jam in 73 and nobody cared to listen to it. Back then it was all about power and feedback, I have the damaged hearing to remind me of those days. Today I have a great appreciation for ITM. No question about it, there is room for a dulcimer in a session. You just need folk's bringing dulcimers along... Bob
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While there seems to have been plenty of UK folk rock bands using dulcimer occasionally in the early 70s (Fairport Convention/Steeleye Span/Strawbs/Trees/Mr Fox/Five Hand Reel etc) is anyone aware of it being used by Irish bands or US folk/rock bands? I can't think of any! Am I wrong? Why do people think this is? Why has the dulcimer never taken off in Ireland when it so obviously suits their folk music?
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updated by @grahame-hood: 06/11/15 07:42:39AM
Thanks! I just saw this now....and I just put it on the calendar to reserve the date for Bing's show. We'll be there! :-)
Sarah Hobart said:
So sorry I didn't see this.
I got too late a start to do a workshop event this year, but we are bringing Bing Futch in for a concert. Hope you can join us!
http://www.whippoorwilltheatre.com/events.html
Just curious, any updates? My husband is currently trying to peg me (just this morning during breakfast) to give him a run down of my own summer schedule to coordinate with his summer plans and time off, etc....and I told him that I don't wanna miss anything in regards to this. Bing doesn't have any Iowa dates confirmed quite yet.
Yes! I live in Cedar Rapids, but I have ease of travel to Des Moines, just 2 hours west, we go there all the time for various reasons. Bing Futch is preparing for a cross country tour. I suggested Iowa and he asked for suggestions, as he said he has always wanted to check it out. This would be perfect as D.M. would be the best city for it. I will let him know you want to start one there. You should be in contact with him! If I can be of any help to you at all from my locale, let me know. I'm an easy going and flexible person and open to helping with whatever your needs are. I can also help promote it especially around my part of the state, etc. If someone as inspirational as Bing can make it to the festival, that may encourage people to travel from surrounding states as well. I am studying his method book for chromatic dulcimer at the moment.....it is so wonderful. Anyway, looking forward to this!