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Homer Ross
@homer-ross
06/28/22 02:34:38PM
19 posts

Possum board


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What is the history concerning the term possum board? Where did it come from? Why is it called a possum board? Does it increase the volume and/or tone of the instrument?

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
06/28/22 01:27:58PM
1,844 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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I use a combination string turner/wire cutter made by D'Addario.  I actually have a few of them and keep them in instrument cases.  They make changing strings super easy.

D'Addario PLanet Waves Pro Winder

ocean-daughter
@ocean-daughter
06/28/22 12:48:09PM
46 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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Wally, that's a good idea. 

What I've sometimes done is use one of those clear plastic zipper pouches to hold all the little accessories.  Although some pliers kind of need a pouch of their own, because they are clunkier.  And now I have a little pick holder I love, that holds my 6 or 8 favorite picks (gleaned from an extensive pick-testing project). 

Right now I'm thinking of a pouch to hold a bunch of extra strings and a dollar store nail clipper for emergencies...

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
06/28/22 07:46:56AM
130 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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I've used "dollar store" nail clippers. Hard to beat the price and they can get lost in a gig bag.

ocean-daughter
@ocean-daughter
06/28/22 01:27:20AM
46 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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Thanks everyone!  This gives me more of an idea of what to look for.  I agree that the cheapest won't be necessarily the best in this case. 

I did see diagonal cutting pliers online, and they looked like a good tool.  But perhaps I'll go to Home Depot and look at the pliers and cutters in person. 

As far as nail clippers, I do have a pair that isn't as great for nails, maybe I should try repurposing it! 

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
06/27/22 10:38:36PM
1,313 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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I don't use wire cutters. I use diagonal cutting pliers. That's not a semantic difference, but a difference in the steel alloy used in the construction of the pliers. A few years ago I purchased a set of small Husky pliers that included a small 4 inch diagonal cutting plier along with a needle nose plier and flat blade plier. They work well for instrument construction. I also have another small diagonal cutting plier that I keep in my traveling gig bag. I've had since 1974. I have a cheap pair that I bought at store called "Ollies" that sells "good stuff cheap" just to have an extra pair around. They work well also.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/27/22 04:15:28PM
2,157 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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i use an end cutter rather than side cutter.  Don't buy the gold plated one, but don't buy the dollar-store cheapo either.

Susie
@susie
06/27/22 04:09:30PM
515 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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I went to my local hardware store and looked at all the choices. I bought the size I wanted and the pair that felt best in my hands and were a quality brand. I change lots of strings on my dulcimers, guitars, etc., etc., etc. and they are still working great. Again, I'd stress a quality brand, RATHER THAN the cheapest set you can find on Amazon. Like they say, you get what you pay for. 


updated by @susie: 06/27/22 08:13:50PM
John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
06/27/22 03:33:37PM
442 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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You can use just about any wire cutters with steel strings.  Harbor Freight Tools sells them, as do dollar stores, admittedly not the best quality, but serviceable for a while.  Don't tell anyone, but in a pinch you can use nail clippers too, if you don't care to use them on your nails again!

Richard Streib
@richard-streib
06/27/22 03:09:08PM
274 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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I have a small wire cutter that has lasted 20 plus years. Most of the small wire cutters are designed for small gauge copper electrical wire which is softer than steel.

The advice not to use for steel wire is likely cautionary on the part of the manufacturer, retailer or both.

ocean-daughter
@ocean-daughter
06/27/22 02:05:14PM
46 posts

Wire cutter recommendations for dulcimer strings


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Yesterday I changed the strings on a new-to-me vintage dulcimer, and I borrowed my husband's 8-inch wire cutters because I couldn't find mine.  Today I was looking on Amazon for some small wire cutters, but most of them say "don't use these for steel wire." 

I figure I need some wire cutters small enough to get in there and snip the wires close to the tuner, but strong enough to last.  Or should I just plan on replacing the wire cutters every so often?  (Admittedly it takes me awhile to get around to changing the strings, so cheap ones might last awhile if I can keep track of them.  But I'd like to have some good ones.) 

What do you use for cutting strings? 

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
06/27/22 07:12:10AM
420 posts

String spacing help, please


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Here's a picture of Jim Good (Mastertone) 5 string with doubled bass.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/27/22 07:05:15AM
2,157 posts

Left handed playing


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kristinrichmond  -- here's a link to a beginner's guide that I wrote a number of years ago called I Just Got A Dulcimer, Now What?:
It's an illustrated glossary of dulcimer terms (so we all speak the same jargon) plus answers to many beginner questions about tuning, playing, care and feeding your new friend.   Feel free to copy and print the booklet.


Sam
@sam
06/27/22 05:53:34AM
169 posts

Left handed playing


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kristinrichmond:

Thanks everyone! She does not seem to have a preference at this point, so we will give it a go and start with learning right handed. Thanks for all of the helpful advice. 😊

I'm sure you both will have questions not covered or easily found in the books I brought so ask any time and don't forget the huge combined knowledge base here!

Steven Stroot
@steven-stroot
06/26/22 02:12:27PM
34 posts

String spacing help, please


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Thanks everyone for your thoughts and the great information.  You guys always come through!

Matt Berg
@matt-berg
06/26/22 07:58:06AM
105 posts

String spacing help, please


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I have only built a few five string dulcimers, but have never doubled the bass string.  Doubling the bass string gives way too much bass (I tried it once on a six string dulcimer).  I have always doubled the melody and middle string.  So my spacing suggestion is a little different.  Outside melody 1/4 from edge, next melody 1/8 further in.  Bass 1/4 from other edge.  Measure halfway between inside melody and bass.  But middle string 1/16 to either side of the center position.  If you prefer a little more distance between strings, change to only 1/8 from edge of fretboard to first melody and bass.  As always, adjust measurements to taste.

kristinrichmond
@kristinrichmond
06/26/22 07:29:38AM
2 posts

Left handed playing


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Thanks everyone! She does not seem to have a preference at this point, so we will give it a go and start with learning right handed. Thanks for all of the helpful advice. 😊

Sam
@sam
06/26/22 06:23:30AM
169 posts

Left handed playing


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Ok, lets all just gang up on the old guy. Nice bunch ... punch

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
06/25/22 11:04:03PM
1,313 posts

Mystery dulcimer, perhaps from the 70's


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Interesting dulcimer, but I have no clue as to who the builder might be.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/25/22 07:51:44PM
2,157 posts

String spacing help, please


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With the tuning head to your left, closest to you will be two melody strings, the first one is 1/8"in from the edge of the fretboard, the inner string 1/8" closer to center.  On the far side of the fretboard, you have the same situation -- the outer bass string is 1/8" from the far edge of the fretboard and the inner bass string 1/8" closer to center.  The middle drone is half way between the inner melody string and the inner bass string.   Generally speaking, as Skip mentions, the bass couplet has a regular bass string appropriate for the VSL, and the inner bass string is the same as a melody, and intended to be tuned an octave above the bass string.  From bass to melody,  the usual tuning setup is  DdAdd.

You can buy commercially made nuts/bridges from McSpadden, Folkcraft and elsewhere which already have the notches cut for 3, 4, 5 and 6 string layouts,

Skip
@skip
06/25/22 06:48:51PM
388 posts

String spacing help, please


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It's probably going to be 1/8" from the sides to the outside strings, another 1/8" between doubled melody and bass strings and  single middle string. The bass set is probably a bass and its octave with doubled melody strings. My 5 string Blue Lion is 5 equidistant strings, 1/8"  sides to outside strings. 

Look really close at where the strings connect to the pins also


updated by @skip: 06/25/22 06:51:28PM
Steven Stroot
@steven-stroot
06/25/22 05:31:53PM
34 posts

String spacing help, please


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I'm the new guy here.  I acquired a five string dulcimer as a restoration project.  It's missing the nut and bridge so I have no idea what the string spacing was originally.  I'm guessing it probably had two double strings and a single bass but can anyone recommend the proper spacing for the five strings?  The fret board is 1 1/2 inches (39 mm) wide.  Thanks for any help you can provide.


updated by @steven-stroot: 06/26/22 02:08:10PM
John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
06/25/22 05:17:37PM
442 posts

Mystery dulcimer, perhaps from the 70's


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I haven't seen that sort of dulcimer before either.  There are nice ones offered on Shop Goodwill Online from time to time.  

I like to buy old dulcimer kits and put them together, whenever I see a good one on there.  Hope you enjoy it!

ocean-daughter
@ocean-daughter
06/25/22 05:03:06PM
46 posts

Mystery dulcimer, perhaps from the 70's


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Ken, I found it on shopgoodwill.com, the auction site.  Goodwill organizations from all over the country sell on there.  The seller was actually Missouri Goodwill Industries, but you never know how it got there and from whence it came.  

There are usually a few interesting dulcimers on that site.  I check in every so often. 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/25/22 04:37:43PM
2,157 posts

Mystery dulcimer, perhaps from the 70's


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Haven't a clue as to the builder, but I love the flower-scroll tuning head.  Where on the Goodwill site did you find it?  What town/state?  It has a certain "California" feel about it.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
06/25/22 03:17:12PM
1,543 posts

Mystery dulcimer, perhaps from the 70's


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That's a lovely instrument, one made by a person with a lot of skill.  Enjoy!  

TheresaSC
@theresasc
06/25/22 03:11:54PM
11 posts

My latest and greatest mountain dulcimer!


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ocean-daughter:

That's a beautiful dulcimer, and sounds lovely!

ocean-daughter:

That's a beautiful dulcimer, and sounds lovely!

Thank you!  I am really enjoying it, so is my neighbor when I play outside😀
ocean-daughter
@ocean-daughter
06/25/22 02:42:23PM
46 posts

Mystery dulcimer, perhaps from the 70's


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I have this beautiful dulcimer, which I found on the Goodwill auction site.  It is diatonic, so I'm guessing it's not very recent, but the style of the bird soundholes looks somewhat modern to me.  So I'm guessing possibly 70's or early 80's, early in the big resurgence.  The dogwood flower on the peghead of course makes me think of Kentucky, but there are several other states where the dogwood is common and beloved. 

It came with ebony pegs, but they drove me crazy trying to tune it, so I had them replaced with geared pegs so I could actually enjoy playing it.  The VSL is a little longer than I'm comfortable with--it's 27.88 inches, and my comfort zone is more like 25-26 for fingerdance; I'm going to try tuning it in DAA/DAG so I can play more in the center of the fretboard, and I'm also going to try using a noter.    

The style of the soundholes makes it tricky to see inside, but I tried today with a flashlight and I don't see any label in there.  Has anyone seen a dulcimer similar to this, and do you know who might have made it?  What with all the pretty details, as well as the arched fretboard, I can't believe it's a one-off. 

I'm partly curious and I partly wanted to share this pretty dulcimer. 


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Mr. Woolery
@mr-woolery
06/25/22 12:48:08PM
10 posts

Jouhikko/Tagelharpa


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

They are trickier to play than they look, for sure!

All of mine have 3 strings. That’s what I fell in love with and that’s what my favorite players use. If you want to hear masterful playing, look for Lassi Logren on YouTube. Rauno Nieminen is also an awesome player and builder. I hope to try one of his instruments one day. 

The best decision I made in learning jouhikko was to reach out to an excellent player and arrange lessons. So worth it. 

Patrick

Dan
@dan
06/25/22 05:14:26AM
205 posts

Jouhikko/Tagelharpa


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I've made several of these pieces. The only ones I can sorta play are the two strings.

Sam
@sam
06/25/22 04:40:46AM
169 posts

Left handed playing


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Thanks for all the really great advice and suggestions. The bridge is not slanted and I can regroove both the nut and bridge if Sadie opts to play left handed. 

And ... Dusty, HEY! nahnah

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
06/24/22 09:29:08PM
442 posts

Left handed playing


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I too am a leftie who has had no trouble at all learning and playing in the usual manner.

Mr. Woolery
@mr-woolery
06/24/22 05:22:58PM
10 posts

Jouhikko/Tagelharpa


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I’m on to another jouhikko. The one in the previous clips was built without bass bar or sound post. Much as they were built up until about the 1970s, when folk revival brought them out of obscurity and makers started adding elements from violin building. 

The new instrument is the subject of a build video I posted on YouTube, as well. 

And my channel has a clip of me playing the alto big brother to this jouhikko, just in case anyone wants to see the difference. (I have replaced the alto strings since the video and eliminated the wolf.)

Patrick

Dan
@dan
06/24/22 02:41:02PM
205 posts

Left handed playing


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I'm left handed but play right handed. Some folks can't! I let her try right handed for awhile....

Strumelia
@strumelia
06/24/22 12:56:25PM
2,400 posts

Left handed playing


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I and a ton of other lefties have no trouble playing 'right handed' instruments. Both hands have important jobs to do.

Switching the strings will make it harder to follow written tab, for sure, and following instructions for making chords with certain fingers would be a whole different experience. You'd more than likely have to (eventually) make new leftie bridge and nut as well. Selling leftie instruments is way more difficult if you need to sell it later.

I believe more than 50% of left handed people play like right handers on stringed instruments. Why not let her start right handed and see how it goes?- for beginners, BOTH hands will feel extremely awkward anyway for a while when just starting out on a stringed instrument. Keep in mind that some awkwardness and frustration will be there whether she is right or left handed.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
06/24/22 12:30:04PM
1,844 posts

Left handed playing


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@kristinrichmond, you've received good advice so far.  The first thing to figure out is if your daughter wants to play lefty.  Have her play a little right-handed for a spell and then flip the dulcimer around and have her play left-handed.  See which way she feels most comfortable.  Some lefties play right-handed with no problem. Both hands are involved, after all.  But others find that the strumming or picking hand should be the strong hand.

If it turns out your daughter does want to play lefty, then you can just reverse the bass and melody strings, although as Noah and Ken explain, the melody string might buzz a little bit. There are some ways to "MacGyver" that issue short of getting a new nut and bridge, so if that's an issue chime in here again.

I wouldn't bother putting on a new nut and bridge until you determine that your daughter really wants to play lefty, that the strings are buzzing or the intonation is off, and that she is going to stick with it for a while. And if that's the case, perhaps her grandfather oldman will buy her an instrument build for lefties and you won't have to lift a finger!

By the way, that old man smiley is an exact portrait of @sam, isn't it?


updated by @dusty: 06/24/22 12:30:17PM
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
06/24/22 12:00:36PM
188 posts

Left handed playing


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I’m left handed.  The left hand is the more active hand; moving; playing chords.  The right hand is in place strumming or picking.

 I think the usual stringing is great for left handers.

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