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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
09/03/19 12:16:15PM
1,857 posts

Tuning for a 4 Equidistant String Dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Hey @Dedicated-DAD, first you should know that there is a whole group here dedicated to 4 equidistant strings .  YOu might consider joining, perusing the old conversations and perhaps starting a new one.

There are a number of ways people tune for 4 equidistant strings. Some just add another in the same pattern, so they might tune DADA.  Janita Baker tunes something like D Bb A D.  That gives her a chromatic scale, enabling her to play blues and ragtime and jazz. But she only fingerpicks, never strumming across all strings.  I recently learned that Neal Hellman often tunes DAdd.  Those two high D notes are not played together, but rather he plays in a drone style in that tuning and gets an extra high D drone that way.

I'm sure there are other variations, too. All of them equally "proper."  Again, I urge you to joint the 4-Equidistant Strings group and pursue your interests there where you'll find more expertise.

Dedicated DAD
@dedicated-dad
09/03/19 12:03:13PM
7 posts

Tuning for a 4 Equidistant String Dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

What is the proper tuning configuration for a 4 equidistant string dulcimer?  Are the two upper strings played together, as if they were close together?  Thanks.  


updated by @dedicated-dad: 03/10/25 09:27:09AM
KLO
@klo
09/03/19 09:57:59AM
2 posts

Dad tuning


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Got a quick reply from Cedar Creek:

We typically tune the Dulcilins GDD, but they can use the DAD tuning with some thicker strings: roughly 24-14-12-12. Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks for your inquiry.
Blessings,
Jeremy
Cedar Creek Dulcimers

FoundryRat
@foundryrat
09/02/19 10:11:00PM
11 posts

Using a strap


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Wow!  What perfect timing!  I was about to post the same question and here all of you have answered it and more.  Thanks!

dulcinina
@dulcinina
09/02/19 08:45:52PM
88 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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My friend, Gail, and I played our cantars on my porch.  We also played dulcimer for about 1 1/2 hours but somehow our photographer (my husband) didn't get pictures of that.  Last year we played on her porch.  We had so much fun. Nina aka Dulcinina


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Redwolf
@redwolf
09/02/19 07:07:19PM
5 posts

Using a strap


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Thanks to all of you for the good advice! I went ahead and ordered the Folkcraft strap. I'll need to add another strap button, but it will be worth it, and I can use the conventional mandolin strap I bought for my Woodrow upright.

Thanks again!

Redwolf

Banjimer
@greg-gunner
09/02/19 05:23:40PM
142 posts

Using a strap


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I second Dusty's advice regarding the quick release straps.  As he stated Folkcraft makes a quick-release strap specifically for the dulcimer.  With this strap a short section of the strap (2-3 inches or so) remains attached to the strap buttons when not in use.  When you are ready to use it just snap the longer section of the strap into place and you're ready to go.  They can be purchased for less than $20.00 directly from Folkcraft or on E-Bay.  

Here's a link to the 1-inch wide brown quick-release strap: https://www.folkcraft.com/collections/accessories/products/brown-one-inch-strap-2310435

If you own more than one dulcimer, you can purchase multiple straps so you won't have to continually struggle with getting the strap onto the strap button.  Just leave the short end-section attached.  The long section of the strap can be stored in the case until needed.  The beauty of the Folkcraft strap is how quickly and easily it can be attached or disconnected.  It's well-worth the cost.

Playing with a strap enables the dulcimer player to position the dulcimer further away from his or her body allowing easier access to the fretboard.


updated by @greg-gunner: 09/02/19 05:26:30PM
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/02/19 04:54:40PM
1,564 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Hey, @lisavb & @ken-hulme So good y'all were able to be out to celebrate the music holiday!  :)

Redwolf
@redwolf
09/02/19 04:33:06PM
5 posts

Using a strap


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Thanks! That's good advice. I had that happen once with a guitar (in that case, the strap button pulled itself out, and my guitar crash-landed on a linoleum floor...talk about heartsick!).

Skip
@skip
09/02/19 03:45:24PM
389 posts

Using a strap


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

FYI- DON"T use the strap to carry the MD like a rifle or purse, over your shoulder, unless you have installed straplocks. The strap could come off the button, allowing the MD to crash and break. I've seen it happen several times  to really nice, expensive MDs [not mine, yet].


updated by @skip: 09/02/19 03:46:26PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
09/02/19 02:34:45PM
1,857 posts

Using a strap


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

@Redwolf, there are a few different options for you.

I would advise against continually pulling the strap off the strap button.  That will just loosen the hole and it won't be so secure after a while. 

Personally, I just pull the strap over my head without loosening it. It's a tight fit, but that way the strap stays adjusted perfectly for me.

There are also some quick release straps you might try.  Folkcraft offers a couple of models, ( 1" and 2" width) and Sue Carpenter also sells them in multiple colors.  A few other dulcimer folks sell Sue Carpenter's model as well, so they are not hard to find.  The quick release straps allow you to unhook the strap without taking it off the strap button.


updated by @dusty: 09/02/19 02:36:49PM
Redwolf
@redwolf
09/02/19 02:16:10PM
5 posts

Using a strap


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Hi! I hope this question isn't off-topic or covered elsewhere (I did try a site search first, and didn't find anything). I'd like to get some input on using a strap with your dulcimer...specifically putting it on and taking it off.

This may seem a bit basic, but it's a legitimate question: If you play with a strap, do you detach the strap from the strap button to get in/out of it, or do you just loosen it and pull it on/off over your head?

I just got a strap button and strap for my little ACD100, and it's quite a chore getting the strap on and off the button, but I'd hate to have to untie and retie the cord around the headstock whenever I want to play.

Because of this dulcimer's small size and light weight, I really do want to use a strap rather than non-slip shelf paper, as it feels rather insecure on my lap when I play on the top frets. Any advice greatly appreciated!

 


updated by @redwolf: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/02/19 01:46:05PM
2,157 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Played Music On The Beach -- no porch at our weekend retreat place on Sanibel island.  And darn few people.  You'd think there was a hurricane warning or something.  But Dorian was a very Minor impediment to a fabulous weekend of sun and Gulf waters.

Music On the Beach 2019.jpg

 


updated by @ken-hulme: 09/02/19 01:55:12PM
LisavB
@lisavb
09/02/19 11:05:25AM
58 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Was a nice day, weatherwise, for PMOTPD here just east of Seattle.  I got out on the deck and went through all the music I have that I can even remotely play, then improvised for a bit.  Saved enough juice to jam with my parrot Waldo indoors a little later, before it was time to start dinner.  I had no idea this existed--fun excuse to get out there and play in the fresh air (while we still have nice weather)!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/02/19 09:25:01AM
1,564 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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@hugssandi I was unable to play the video here yet I saw it from fb-- yay, girls!  The photos and vids from your day were a delight to see.  

Thanks, @Strumelia!  My highest aspiration as a player is to be a good porch player.  

I've enjoyed all the postings of PMOTPD!  

David Bennett
@david-bennett
09/02/19 06:54:34AM
61 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Ballad Gal:

David, you do so much, and the video is a bonus!

Thanks. That is very kind of you.

hugssandi
@hugssandi
09/01/19 11:18:56PM
249 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Here is a very short clip of Hazel and I doing  Werner Van Rillaer 's "The Artists".  It's the only vid I've been successful loading here so far, maybe because it's so short?  I fell head-over-heels for this song, and Werner was kind enough to message me a vid of his fingers playing and a pic of his handwritten lyrics.  love I tune by ear and really struggle to get into DAG, and there is a bit of buzz, but it's so worth the try.  This is my Teagan, a Wren by Feather Dulcimer, as well as my favorite!

I know the day is over, but I am still so enjoying reading what y'all did and seeing your pics and vids!!!!!  Keep 'em coming!

[edit by Strumelia: sorry Sandi but videos will not play as attachments, so I had to delete it. You'd need to post a link to the video somewhere online instead, and it can then play from here in a post.  Perhaps Hazel can help you with this?- I know she's smart about youtube video stuff... lol]


updated by @hugssandi: 09/02/19 11:15:07AM
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
09/01/19 09:01:53PM
1,345 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Thank you Ballad Gal. Here is a link in case you or anyone else is interested: 

Norulak Screen Printing

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song.

Ballad Gal
@ballad-gal
09/01/19 07:12:00PM
34 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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David, you do so much, and the video is a bonus!

Ballad Gal
@ballad-gal
09/01/19 07:05:44PM
34 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Ken Longfield:

Here is my Play Music on the Porch Day Photo. I have one with me playing guitar as well.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

 

Great shirt, Ken!

hugssandi
@hugssandi
09/01/19 04:13:19PM
249 posts

FUNNY songs you sing & play on your dulcimer


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The Five Constipated Men of the Bible from our very own Ken H.!  (Y'all have mentioned lots of faves I wanna learn now though...)

Astrelfrog
@astrelfrog
09/01/19 11:59:28AM
1 posts

FUNNY songs you sing & play on your dulcimer


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I am learning Sweet Betsy from Pike, (the tune) to play "You Smell Like Turtles" from Homer and Jethro. This was the flip side of "Daddy Played First Base." My husband and I have sung the Turtle song for many years, much to the dismay of family, friends and strangers.  Since almost all of their songs were parodies, finding the original music for most isn't hard. We also have a set of caving carols we do, to popular Xmas tunes.

Example:

Lost in a Crawlway

Lost in a crawlway trying hard to escape

To find the wrong entrance would be their sad fate

They came out an entrance 90 feet up a bluff

They only fell 80 but that was enough.

Just think: Dr. Demento's Greatest Hits on dulcimer. Guess I better start looking into that.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/01/19 11:50:31AM
1,564 posts

Conversation with Butch Ross


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Great hearing from Butch by way of your interview!  It's been too long since I've seen him 'live'.  

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
09/01/19 10:01:03AM
1,345 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Lisa, the pick is a new collar stay. It was never in a shirt. A local store had boxes of them for $3 for about 30 stays and collar extenders. The noter is the handle of a foam brush. I just cut off the foam when it was too hard to accept more paint.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/01/19 09:44:23AM
1,564 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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@hugssandi What a happy late-August Christmas!  I loved seeing the photos and reading your summary of the day, a time to cherish, I imagine.  <3

Redmando
@redmando
09/01/19 07:08:00AM
28 posts

Conversation with Butch Ross


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CGD Tuning? Fat and skinny frets? Who's the father? All this, and more, in my conversation with Butch Ross:

https://mdconversations.blogspot.com/2019/09/4-butch-ross-from-chattanooga-tn-usa.html


updated by @redmando: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
hugssandi
@hugssandi
09/01/19 05:44:39AM
249 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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I'm pretty sure this day is my Christmas, and it did NOT disappoint again this year!  I put out there that our porch was open from 10AM-10PM, and this is what happened:  My husband kicked us off in the morning with a DJ set and some family line dancing.  In the afternoon a concertina showed up, followed by a singer/keyboardist.  Hazel and I also played violin/dulcimer.  An old neighbor showed up who always makes our toy Schoenhard piano sing.  Then a guitar/banjo player and his wife stopped by, followed by a couple who sang and played some spoons.  A couple more spectator came and listened for an hour, and then another singer.  At one point we had to put a bench by the van!  Lastly a friend and her daughter who plays flute and uke~she and Hazel played and sang us into the darkness.  OH SO GOOD!!!!!  

We had sweet tea and lemonade, salsa pinwheels, homemade chocolate chip cookies and brownies from my kids, watermelon, and cheese puffs.  OH so many pics to choose from!  LOL  There are more pics and vids on my fb album.


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updated by @hugssandi: 09/01/19 04:11:28PM
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/31/19 11:13:56PM
1,564 posts

Walnut Thomas with possum board


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

That matching possum board looks so good-- nicely done, John!  The new owner is, indeed, fortunate.  


updated by @robin-thompson: 09/01/19 09:45:49AM
John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
08/31/19 10:28:22PM
448 posts

Walnut Thomas with possum board


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Just completed, another walnut Thomas dulcimore with a matching possum board.


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updated by @john-c-knopf: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/31/19 09:49:33PM
2,416 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I liked your video too, David... loved your elderly neighbor chuckling there at his own limberJill playing  giggle2

Strumelia
@strumelia
08/31/19 09:43:27PM
2,416 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Robin, you and mark do such a wonderful duet dance between your two instruments... terrific porch playing!

@ken-longfield , is that an old collar stay pick?... and a hollow reed noter?  hamster

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/31/19 09:06:38PM
1,564 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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David, I enjoyed your video!  How cool your neighbor came to get in on the fun, too.  

Nice picture, Ken L!  

Kevin & Steven-- I like insect accompaniment!  :)

David Bennett
@david-bennett
08/31/19 07:17:25PM
61 posts

Play Music On The Porch Day 2019


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Karen & I played on our porch for about 4 hours this morning. Here's a short video I made.


updated by @david-bennett: 08/31/19 07:18:00PM
Marlene Powell
@marlene-powell
08/31/19 07:09:26PM
1 posts

Contra dancing :)


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How interesting to run across this thread.  I am a long-time contra dancer as well as a flatfooter/clogger (was in a couple of different performance troupes for several years.  I love old-time dance and music so much that I wrote my dissertation on it all those many years ago (Creating Community: An Ethnography of Old-Time Dance Groups).  I'm getting ready to teach a flatfooting class this Fall at our local senior center.  Keep dancing, all.  Keeps us young, and you can't beat the music.  

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