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robert schuler
@robert-schuler
02/25/15 01:37:31PM
258 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I saw my first dulcimer in Steeleye Span, although I heard Brian Jones before them, I didn't make the dulcimer connection. I played in many a late 60s early 70s bands. I brought a dulcimer to a jam in 73 and nobody cared to listen to it. Back then it was all about power and feedback, I have the damaged hearing to remind me of those days. Today I have a great appreciation for ITM. No question about it, there is room for a dulcimer in a session. You just need folk's bringing dulcimers along... Bob
Grahame Hood
@grahame-hood
02/25/15 01:23:17PM
6 posts

Dulcimer use in folk/rock bands


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

While there seems to have been plenty of UK folk rock bands using dulcimer occasionally in the early 70s (Fairport Convention/Steeleye Span/Strawbs/Trees/Mr Fox/Five Hand Reel etc) is anyone aware of it being used by Irish bands or US folk/rock bands? I can't think of any! Am I wrong? Why do people think this is? Why has the dulcimer never taken off in Ireland when it so obviously suits their folk music?

Grahame


updated by @grahame-hood: 06/11/15 07:42:39AM
Jan Potts
@jan-potts
02/27/15 10:48:36PM
403 posts



I have a standard Banjammer, a smaller Banjammer "Cutie", and a Cousin Clem box dulcimer. Love 'em all!

Oliver Ogden
@oliver-ogden
02/25/15 08:18:21AM
4 posts



I saw this one before , there are several good videos on Mike Clemmer's dulcimer's.This past Jan I ordered two of Mike's dulcimer's one is his fiddle side 5 string and the other is his banjammer. the thing I dom't like is the wait, 3 to 4 months.

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
02/24/15 11:37:18AM
229 posts



Fabulous Mark, made me want to go visit the Clemmers well at the very least buy one of their dulcimers.

Susie
@susie
02/24/15 09:26:48AM
513 posts



Loved the video. Thank you!

Kimberly Anne Schultz
@kimberly-anne-schultz
05/15/15 04:21:09PM
5 posts



Thanks! I just saw this now....and I just put it on the calendar to reserve the date for Bing's show. We'll be there! :-)


Sarah Hobart said:

So sorry I didn't see this.
I got too late a start to do a workshop event this year, but we are bringing Bing Futch in for a concert. Hope you can join us!

http://www.whippoorwilltheatre.com/events.html

Kimberly Anne Schultz
@kimberly-anne-schultz
04/04/15 11:08:12AM
5 posts



Just curious, any updates? My husband is currently trying to peg me (just this morning during breakfast) to give him a run down of my own summer schedule to coordinate with his summer plans and time off, etc....and I told him that I don't wanna miss anything in regards to this. Bing doesn't have any Iowa dates confirmed quite yet.

Mark Gebhart
@mark-gebhart
03/24/15 10:15:46PM
1 posts



I am originally from southwest Iowa but have relations all over the state. This would give me one more excuse to visit more often.

Kimberly Anne Schultz
@kimberly-anne-schultz
02/25/15 02:16:30PM
5 posts



Yes! I live in Cedar Rapids, but I have ease of travel to Des Moines, just 2 hours west, we go there all the time for various reasons. Bing Futch is preparing for a cross country tour. I suggested Iowa and he asked for suggestions, as he said he has always wanted to check it out. This would be perfect as D.M. would be the best city for it. I will let him know you want to start one there. You should be in contact with him! If I can be of any help to you at all from my locale, let me know. I'm an easy going and flexible person and open to helping with whatever your needs are. I can also help promote it especially around my part of the state, etc. If someone as inspirational as Bing can make it to the festival, that may encourage people to travel from surrounding states as well. I am studying his method book for chromatic dulcimer at the moment.....it is so wonderful. Anyway, looking forward to this!

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/17/15 02:39:07PM
2,417 posts



Awesome, thanks!

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/17/15 02:30:45PM
2,417 posts



Ok, I see it is offered free on Bob McNally's website, here:

http://www.strumstick.com/index.html

There was no name or author listed on the pdf.

...I like to make sure the author's name is made clear, and that they are giving their work out for free if we link to it here.

Strumelia
@strumelia
02/17/15 02:22:02PM
2,417 posts



Babs i just want to make sure you wrote that instruction booklet- are you the author? Thanks!

Linda W. Collins
@linda-w-collins
02/18/15 09:13:44AM
24 posts



Thanks, Bab! While there are a few familiar tunes here, such as Mrs. MacLeod's, there are also some new-to-me tunes. These will be fun to use with my violin students - and fun to play on the dulcimer, too. Much appreciated!

Linda

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
02/17/15 05:58:10PM
420 posts



One great sourcebook there, Babs. Thanks for the link. I see several I'll be trying to add to my repertoire.

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
02/17/15 05:18:43PM
239 posts



Thanks Babs That's a great find!!!! It looks like noter drone players heaven It is always exciting to find new tunes - I'm just having a go at Bonnie Tammie Scolla. I wish I'd noticed your post earlier this evening as I would have recorded a tune or two but it is a bit late now - I'll have to work one up for tomorrow.

John Shaw
@john-shaw
02/17/15 09:07:55AM
60 posts



Thanks, Babs - a great resource! (Some tunes that I know, but a lot that I don't.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/23/15 12:06:56PM
1,868 posts



FYI: this is the website entirely devoted to the 1-3-5 tuning: http://www.mountaindulcimer-1-3-5.com/ .

John Shaw
@john-shaw
02/16/15 07:06:32PM
60 posts



Sorry Babs - I see you're also from the UK! For my earlier replies I'm afraid I made the assumption that you are from the USA, like most members here.

Something else I should have said in my earlier replies is that, if you haven't already done so, it makes a lot of sense to familiarise yourself with 1-5-5 tuning (eg: DAA) BEFORE getting into 1-3-5. DAA is a beautiful, expressive tuning in its own right, and most old-time instruments were made with this kind of tuning in mind - with good reason. You may be familiar with Robin Clark's many brilliantly insightful writings here on FOTMD about his musical discoveries based upon his study of old instruments and playing styles, and with his many superb sound files. If you're not familiar with them, then give yourself a treat and look them up.

From a 1-3-5 perspective, a bit of DAA playing will familiarise you with where the notes are in this highly traditional tuning. Then 1-3-5 won't feel as strange, because your 2 outer courses are the same - and you just have to get used to all the weird chromatic notes on the middle string!

John Shaw
@john-shaw
02/16/15 06:40:24PM
60 posts



Hello Babs -

It's difficult for me to give you a straight answer as to whether I'm tuning down to CEG (or DF#A) from a Dadd tuning. The dulcimer I almost always use for 1-3-5 playing is my Sunhearth hourglass, which has a 27+5/8" scale length. I only have 3 strings on it, so I don't use doubled treble strings, and, as on all my various dulcimers, I use it for a number of different tunings. Amazingly - with the same set of strings - it works well in EBe, DAd and all the way downwards to AEA (and the various modal tunings within the same range).

You mention EG#B tuning. I use this quite a bit - it works really well.

Skip is quite right to say that 1-3-5 is no good for noter-drone playing (which I love), nor is it particularly helpful for nearly all of the folk-based music which most MD players want to play most of the time. Where it really comes into its own is opening the door to a more chromatic range of repertoire (show tunes, standards, some light classical etc.) than the MD can otherwise cope with.

Just in case you're interested, there are a couple of 1-3-5 pieces in the sound files on my FOTMD page, both in DF#A. They are "The Old Rugged Cross" and "We'll Meet Again" (a Second World War song which is enduringly popular here in the UK.)

Skip
@skip
02/16/15 12:53:57PM
390 posts



I use DF#Ad [1358], equidistant, for now, along with DAD [I have 7 MD's], and have found it pretty nice. It's been fairly easy to learn to fingerpick/flat pick using DAd tab, I don't read SMN. You can also tune the melody D down to 'c' and have bar chord 7th's [or play 158 DAC]. 135 is really not for noter drone though, but is really good for chording and fingerpicking. I do use a slightly heavier string for the F#. I prefer the 4 string DF#Ad to the 3 string DF#A, which also allows using both tabs, 135 and 158. I also tried CEGc, which allowed me to get Dm [DFAd, 1011].

John Shaw
@john-shaw
02/16/15 12:10:59PM
60 posts



Hello Babs - I sometimes use 1-3-5 tuning, and, like Ken, I've never had trouble tuning my middle string down to F#. (Indeed there's one song I sing on which I accompany myself in 1-3-5 tuning in C. So that's CEG, and I have no trouble with that either, but it's probably at the limit of what the string will take from a slackness point of view.

I wouldn't particularly recommend FAc, because your bass string would be VERY tight at that tension.

Oliver Ogden
@oliver-ogden
02/15/15 12:18:00PM
4 posts



I have and use a Hughes dulcimer and I find it has a nice voice or sound, other people at our dulcimer club have made good comments on it.mine is dated jan26,1989 its there model H38W4S and is made of solid walnut and spruce with crome tuners. I bought it new in 1989, and use it all the time. Hughes is no longer in bussiness. Alter all this time it was the only dulcimer I had. I just ordered a new dulcimer for Mike Clemmer on Townsend TN.

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
02/14/15 10:12:52PM
450 posts



You're welcome, Lawrence.

I suggest you find other examples of dulcimers at a music store or at a festival, and compare them to yours.

The quality varies quite widely, from cheap cardboard kits to fabulous works of art such as Blue Lion dulcimers.

Some of us on this site recreate historically significant dulcimers of the past, so that today's enthusiasts can experience first-hand what it's like to play an old-fashioned instrument for a reasonable price.

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
02/14/15 07:33:52PM
450 posts



Lawrence, I haven't seen this type of Hughes dulcimer before.

Most Hughes dulcimers I've seen are what I 'd consider low-grade instruments made of lauan (Philippine mahogany) plywood, and simply built.

From the photo, I'd say that you have a medium-quality dulcimer, however I can't play it or examine it from here.

It looks like a step or two up from their usual range of dulcimers.

Steve Smith
@steve-smith
02/15/15 06:36:57PM
35 posts



I also like the Zoom - I've used a H2n for the past couple of years to record tunes for our club website . With just under 800 mp3's now online, it's made life a lot easier, since I can record anywhere without having to worry about the noise of having the computer on, etc. I've never worried about video, however. I don't really think anyone wants to see me!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
02/13/15 04:01:24PM
1,568 posts



Charley, I do more audio recording anymore and am using the Zoom H2 we've had for some years now. Our video recorder is also a Zoom.
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
02/11/15 01:18:19PM
1,351 posts

Folk Music Resources


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

You are correct Kristi. I have quite a few places bookmarked for researching tunes, people, instruments, etc. It is worthwhile having a place where all of these are available saving people time in searching for them.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/10/15 07:37:01PM
1,868 posts

Folk Music Resources


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Good idea for a forum, Ken. Thanks!

In another discussion Robert Schuler pointed me to the Snips and Clips website of penny whistle tunes. Lots of those tunes work on the dulcimer, of course, too.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
02/10/15 06:29:59PM
1,351 posts

Folk Music Resources


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

This is a place to post general folk music resources for folks interested in more than just the mountain dulcimer. The first one I share came from a post over at Banjo Hangout. It is a site called Folk Music Worldwide: http://folkmusicworldwide.com . This is posting of radio interviews with people primarily from the great folk scare of the 1950s and 60s. There is some interesting conversation here. Have fun listening.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."


updated by @ken-longfield: 02/09/25 09:03:20PM
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
02/11/15 08:12:33PM
1,351 posts



Charley, I am glad to hear that you took the plunge in to mountain dulcimer. I hope you enjoy it and I trust you will get well soon.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
02/09/15 10:13:44PM
231 posts



I hope you feel better soon. I would love to hear your new dulcimer

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/09/15 05:05:28PM
1,868 posts



Well, Charley, I hope you get better fast and start enjoying your new musical toy. Let us know how it goes.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
02/09/15 04:52:53PM
1,568 posts



Dulcimers are faithful friends; mine wait until I'm ready for them.Happy strumming, Charley!
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
02/09/15 11:45:38AM
1,568 posts



Charley, do let us know when you take the plunge! :)
Strumelia
@strumelia
02/09/15 10:04:42AM
2,417 posts



Charley, sounds like a plan to me.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
02/08/15 05:22:30PM
1,351 posts

Who Will Sing For Me -- In memory of Judy Klinkhammer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I'd didn't know Judy, but that was a fitting tribute.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

David Bennett
@david-bennett
02/08/15 08:20:10AM
65 posts

Who Will Sing For Me -- In memory of Judy Klinkhammer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

For those of you who have been to the McSpadden Dulcimer Shop in Mountain View, Arkansas you probably met Judy. After a battle with cancer she passed yesterday (7 Feb).


updated by @david-bennett: 06/11/15 07:42:35AM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
02/14/15 12:15:57PM
1,868 posts

Tenor guitar players?


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

James, my understanding is that the tenor guitar is tuned to fifths, usually CGDA or GDAE. AndGDAE is exactly how a mandolin is tuned, though an octave higher than a tenor guitar). So you might seek out mandolin tab for tunes. Even if you tune CGDA, you could still use that tab; you will simply be in a different key. But chord charts and tab for the mandolin are certainly more popular on the internet, so you might look for that stuff instead of limiting yourself to lessons on tenor guitar.

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