The Positive Thread...

Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

If I'm only four or five months late, that's not bad.  I think of new music as anything played since the invention of the steam engine. oldman




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Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

Jeopardy has been offering video and photo clues for years. That's nothing new. Also, this show is not new either. It was first broadcast in July of 2022.

Kwn

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

Whaaaat?? I didn't think they showed picture clues on that show! Seems crazy.




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Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

As the question was asked, they showed a picture of a dulcimer, so the banjo answer was less informed than you might have thought.




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Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

That's actually pretty impressive!  Especially also considering that "mountain banjos" are actually a defined type of banjo.




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Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
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On Jeopardy today:

Answer: The mountain this is the Kentucky state instrument.

Question: What is a dulcimer?

The first contestant to answer guessed a banjo, but the second one got it.




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Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

omg Dusty, too adorable!  catdance




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Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
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Do you love cats?  Do you love music?




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Richard Streib
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
3 years ago
260 posts

Glad to see you active again. Looking forward to your participation.

shawn wright
shawn wright
@shawn-wright
3 years ago
7 posts

I've been gone a long time.  Hoping to get back to trying to play again.

Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

Hey friends, I created a new discussion entitled International Appalachian Dulcimer Day in the General Mountain Dulcimer Forum.  Let's move our discussion (especially the posters!!) over there and leave this space for other positive news.

Thanks.




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Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

Steve, I'll send you a private message through fotmd.




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updated by @strumelia: 02/24/22 09:43:31PM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Strumelia, If you can send me an email address, I will send you a copy and you can edit as you wish.  Any help is appreciated.

robert schuler
robert schuler
@robert-schuler
3 years ago
257 posts

Great poster!!!. Absolutely love it, the old timer sorta reminds  me of me😊....Robert.

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I'm with Richard at thanking you for your original suggestion which got things rolling, @dusty-turtle! sun

Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

National Guitar is February 11.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Richard Streib
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
3 years ago
260 posts

Thanks Dusty for your original post. Now when is national guitar day? Seems that drifted off with the wind in all our talk of an International Dulcimer Day.

Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

Hey everyone, I just want to say how wonderful it is that an off-the-cuff comment I made on National Guitar Day has led to a consensus here about International Appalachian Dulcimer Day.  When I get a chance (and recover from a long day at work) I'll create a new discussion somewhere else on FOTMD specific to IADD. We can share resources like Steve C's poster and, when the day arrives, share photos, videos, or just descriptions of what we do on that day.  (IF someone wants to do that before I get a chance, please go ahead.)

This is a positive outcome of a discussion on the positive thread!




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updated by @dusty: 02/24/22 06:22:16PM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

I can adjust the contrast for the white text areas by deepening the yellow and pale blue background colors just a little, if anyone needs me to. Then it would be nicely readable if printed out or copied in greyscale.




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updated by @strumelia: 02/24/22 05:02:43PM
Dan
Dan
@dan
3 years ago
193 posts

Like those?

cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Thanks Stumelia!  I fixed it will try to get it re-sent

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

Great poster!

Note: the word "holding" at the bottom has a typo.

Also- many folks would be printing/copying this out in greyscale, and it'd be good to bump up the contrast between the lettering and the background colors so it's easy to read. ...making the background colors behind the white text just a bit darker. Here's how it prints out on a blk&white printer as it is now:

0001_grey.jpg




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updated by @strumelia: 02/24/22 03:23:21PM
Richard Streib
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
3 years ago
260 posts

Great poster Steve

Ballad Gal
Ballad Gal
@ballad-gal
3 years ago
34 posts

Good job on the poster, Steve!

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

Way cool from Steve C! 

Dan
Dan
@dan
3 years ago
193 posts

..and from Steve Carney...


updated by @dan: 02/24/22 04:54:52PM
Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

Looks great, Robin!

P.S. Someone should copyright the name "grassroots celebration" before some corporation does.




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Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

In the way of many who have gone before us, I used what I had on-hand to make a little sign.  


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/24/22 10:36:58PM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Robin Thompson:


I'm wanting thoughts on going ahead and putting this picture on my Facebook page.  


original


looks great!

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

My apologies for the big photo-- I've tried to re-size it yet don't really know what I'm doing (obviously)!

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I'm wanting thoughts on going ahead and putting this picture on my Facebook page.  

original


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/24/22 09:07:32AM
Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

We aren't an off-shoot of worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day.  It's a totally different thing.    

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day is its own thing-- just a day set aside to celebrate however you choose and in some small (or large) way, our favorite instrument.  (I live in an old coal mine village and everything we do here is on a small scale. nod  )   

Ballad Gal
Ballad Gal
@ballad-gal
3 years ago
34 posts

I'm fine with it (assuming we are celebrating indoors--it will be cold where I live). Good to have an easy to remember date!

cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Being that the date will change yearly it will make it possible for others to celebrate if not this year then next.  It will not be a fixed day. 

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

@marg I didn't check the date here or internationally.  My thinking was it is not a day which would interfere with anything (unless one were on silent retreat or some similar event) yet, rather, a day to celebrate what many of us do every day-- play mountain dulcimer. dulcimer1

marg
@marg
3 years ago
620 posts

That's fine, just checking if that date was good  Internationally.

Skip
Skip
@skip
3 years ago
368 posts

'Block or street gathering [party] day' for dulcimers on an annual basis.grin

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

@marg I was advocating for using "International" because the spread of the fretted dulcimer is across the globe and the membership here at FOTMD reflects this.  

This is to be a grassroots celebration on only one day.  (This is how I understand it.  No committee with officers, a budget, etc.  More like a flash mob, maybe?  If I'm on the wrong track, somebody can jump in and point the way.)  Even if a person just wished to post a special still photo for the day or make an elaborate video or a piece of artwork or anything in-between, assigning a day is a simple way to celebrate the boxes with strings we all love. dulcimer  


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/22/22 02:12:49PM
marg
@marg
3 years ago
620 posts

(International - last Saturday in March) 

Did anyone check if this date is ok for different countries - That their country doesn't have that as a special date? Did anyone discuss just (Appalachian Dulcimer Day)

Skip
Skip
@skip
3 years ago
368 posts

@dan  yes   Or 'MD Day".

OK  for me although 'Appalachian' sounds a bit 'puffed up'.  Reason, I'm used to referring to it as a mountain dulcimer .shrugger   Baaaaaa

{No need for a poll.}


updated by @skip: 02/22/22 11:18:26AM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Go for it!  

Richard Streib
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
3 years ago
260 posts

Sounds good to me for International Appalachian Dulcimer Day  on the last Saturday in March.

Go for it.

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

@dan Yeah, we'uns know! grin

Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

Not exactly good for outdoor activities in my part of the world, but I have no objections.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Dan
Dan
@dan
3 years ago
193 posts

How many do we need for a consensus, can we just stop and agree at the conspiracy level?

P.S. You'ins do know the Black Sheep will refer to this as "Dulcimore Day"...just sayin'

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 years ago
2,343 posts

No real need for a poll if everyone thinks that's a good plan, Dusty.

Does anyone have other options they'd like to see considered?




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Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
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3 years ago
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sun @dusty-turtle, I like it!flower  


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/22/22 08:19:04AM
Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

OK, folks. I think this conversation has wound down. Perhaps it's time for a vote.  Before we go there, how 'bout this:

International Appalachian Dulcimer Day: the last Saturday in March 

What think ye?  If there are serious objections, we can isolate some variables and have Strumelia set up a poll. But I wonder if we might reach a consensus.




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updated by @dusty: 02/22/22 01:36:22AM
Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

Friends, I hope I haven't shut-down conversation about an Appalachian Dulcimer day of celebration!  

I think of the roots of the Appalachian dulcimer and how folks used the instrument-- at home or church or another community event of some kind.  Since we're not near any clubs, jams, gatherings, etc., pretty much all we do with making music here at our house stays home or close to home.  Whether there is something "organized" or the event is more of a grassroots/several shoots sort of thing for an International Appalachian Dulcimer Day, I plan to celebrate our dear little instrument on a given day.      

It's pretty cool how @dusty-turtle came to raise the idea of a day of celebration!   

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I plan to let my Facebook friends know a name and day to celebrate ahead of time and invite/encourage any who play Appalachian dulcimer to mark the day some way-- a still photo, a video, an audio, artwork featuring our loved instrument, etc., and just see what happens.  


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/18/22 04:16:42PM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Should there be a group or team of people to plan and write the news releases for The International Appalachian Dulcimer Day?  Making sure that we cross a few T’s and at least dot an “i” or two.  Otherwise, we might of just of had a nice discussion but we could easily just forget to follow through.  That is if you all feel strong enough about this.  


updated by @steve-c: 02/18/22 03:31:46PM
Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

Oh, I understood, @ken-longfield -- many of us who were teenagers long ago understand joking about teenagers.  


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/18/22 04:16:07PM
Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

I hope I'm not giving the wrong impression. I spent 40 years working with teenagers and enjoy them. I was being facetious in my first post about our teenage years here on FOTMD.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I'm thinking about making a video for our day of celebration of the Appalachian dulcimer.  Springtime will soon be upon us. time

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
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3 years ago
1,506 posts

@ken-longfield I know the teenage years can be difficult, at times, for all yet there'll be a lot of fun times, too.  Young people give me hope!  

Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

For sure Robin. My oldest grandson just turned 13 last week. Hence my comment.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

Ken Longfield:


Oh, no! Another teenager.


Ken


"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."



Oh, yes! hamster

Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

Oh, no! Another teenager.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I love cake! cake   And I remember when FOTMD was just a baby. babycrawl

Richard Streib
Richard Streib
@richard-streib
3 years ago
260 posts

So July 29 will be FOTMD day around the world, Cake and goodies and lots of dulcimer music. Is it here yet?

Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

Coincidentally, @lisa-golladay, I recently asked Strumelia that very question.  FOTMD first went live on July 29, 2009.  So this summer will be lucky 13 years!




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Lisa Golladay
Lisa Golladay
@lisa-golladay
3 years ago
108 posts

We can make as many holidays as we want joyjoy

While we iron out the details of International Day of the Appalachian Dulcimer, let's start another celebration while we're at it. When did the FOTMD site go live?

I propose we celebrate FOTMD's Birthday! Cake for everybody!!

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

steve c.:

I think I’m over thinking all of this…lol..maybe I am thinking on a festival mentality and not thinking of just a day to say Hooray for our Dulcimer!

I like your suggestion, Steve, when you wrote, "So we can skip the formal recognition if you all like and just promote the weekend ourselves."  

Also, it is still important to me that folks from all over are part of this day of celebration just as folks from all over are part of FOTMD.  


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/16/22 07:59:50PM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

Just checked and we cannot register a national day by designating a “last weekend.” It has to be a date for it to be a “day.”  So we can skip the formal recognition if you all like and just promote the weekend ourselves.  But we could see someone down the road establish a date as “Mountain Dulcimer Day” or something similar.  But if we do a really good job of promoting our day we can diminish the possibility of that happening.  The more we circulate this among all dulcimer circles, the better.  What would you say as to the criteria for the weekend?  Would we go with the beginning of the festival season?  


updated by @steve-c: 02/16/22 07:48:07PM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

I’ll check to see if we can schedule something like the last Saturday of March and register it on the national calendar.

Leo Kretzner
Leo Kretzner
@leo-kretzner
3 years ago
36 posts

As to name, I do not feel strongly about 'American dulcimer,' and Strumelia is correct that it's really too broad. I'm good with either 'mountain' or 'Appalachian' (regardless of pronunciation, lol). I think the terms 'lap' and 'fretted,' while accurate, are dry and descriptive, while 'mountain' and 'Appalachian' are evocative and descriptive.

I was feeling enthusiastic about MD and the banjo being the only two instruments indigenous to the US. I was also thinking of the large contingent of folks playing the 'Persian dulcimer' (lol) who might be inclined to say "Hey what about us?" so we need to be specific - and it seems like folks were thinking that way anyway.

Even so, many clubs and the Dulcimer Players News itself include both dulcimers, and I can well imagine some hammer-folks saying "Hey it should be about both dulcimers!" So, at least some of us will have to answer not just the question of 'why-that-date?' but also 'why-weren't-we-included?' To that, the native roots of our dulcimer seems a diplomatic and compelling comment. More compelling than "because the idea started on FotMD"!  More diplomatic than "b/c you drown us out," lol.

Now, as to date: Speaking to Dusty's concern, it often happens that 'celebrations' for an important date are moved to the closest weekend. So there's always the possibility of a set date falling where it might, but the subsequent weekend being the time for a local festival or jam or a special Zoom thing or etc. [Note this raises the separate question of what exactly to do to mark it. I say best to leave that to local communities and whatever folks want to make of it. But that thought argues for something in nice weather - versus, say, Dec 12, which I otherwise like.]

As for timing it to something less specific/more general - eg, first Saturday of Spring - I think that's still easy enough to remember, and let's look at the specifics:  First, 'vernal equinox' = spring equinox = first day of spring, and it is virtually always on March 20, 21, or 22 (Farmer's Almanac, almanac.com). This year it's Sunday, 3/20, and MD-Day would be the next Saturday, March 26. Similarly, it's usually going to be the last Saturday of March - another easy way to remember it 'roughly' and then be able to look up. Next year, 2023 (a possible 'first annual'), it would be Saturday, March 25.

Did you know that April 8 is National Banjo Day?? Rather nice that it would be close!

Oh, but would we have some other competition in late March?? Well, surprise or not, yes - but not significant: 3/26 is National Nougat and National Spinach Day. March 26 is National Lobster Newburg Day, Natl Medal of Honor Day, Natl Tolkien Reading Day and Natl Manatee Appreciation Day.  So we can celebrate by taking a manatee out for lobster Newburg...

Somehow I think we're okay with regard to that!! And obviously there are National Days for almost anything, so it's high time we get one for the mountain dulcimer!! 

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I know I'm looking forward to the inaugural IADD! dulcimer1

marg
@marg
3 years ago
620 posts

WOW, I'm impressed with all the responses. Good luck with the end result. 

cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

I think I’m over thinking all of this…lol..maybe I am thinking on a festival mentality and not thinking of just a day to say Hooray for our Dulcimer!

Skip
Skip
@skip
3 years ago
368 posts

@richard-streib yes   Any date that is usually mild in both hemispheres.

Length of day/night [equinox] is irrelevant and is assuming everyone can, or will, take time figure out the right date. It's easy to mark a consistent date, or day, on a calendar. 

I'm really the right one to talk about dates [sarcastic],  I usually remember about an event the next day or forget about them entirely. confusey  

How about the last Saturday in March? It's not a normal work day and is early spring.


updated by @skip: 02/16/22 11:40:09AM
Dusty Turtle
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
3 years ago
1,814 posts

As someone who has many years of labor ahead before retirement, I would suggest that were we to pick a specific date, I would not be able to do anything special for International Dulcimer Day most years since I will be working.  That's why you won't see me at Kentucky Music Week or any of the fine dulcimer events that complain about not attracting younger people but still schedule themselves during the work week.   And if we choose a specific date, the question will always arise about why that date was chosen, which brings us full circle to the beginning of this conversation when a few of us suggested Jean's birthday.  It will be pretty lame if we have a date and no explanation for it. 

I think it important that we choose a Saturday.  If the first Saturday of spring seems too confusing to people (seriously?), then we should just choose perhaps the second (or third or first or fourth) Saturday of a particular month.  I suggested the spring because it is a celebratory time of year and marks the beginning of the festival season.  And unless you give up music for lent, I don't know why Dulcimer Day would conflict with that 6-week period of time. Maybe I'm missing something.




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updated by @dusty: 02/16/22 11:24:53AM
Ken Longfield
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
3 years ago
1,239 posts

The vernal equinox can occur on March 19, 20, or 21. The last possible day for the celebration of Easter is April 25. Any date we pick before April 25 will put International Appalachian Dulcimer Day during the Christian season of Lent occasionally. While I don't think this should deter us, it is just something of which we should be aware. Am I understanding correctly that it should be a specific day rather than the last Saturday in March or the second Saturday in April?

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Thompson
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
3 years ago
1,506 posts

I think setting a day tied to Spring equinox would have folks looking at their calendars and planning.  Think about Easter, for example.

PS-Our friends in the southern hemisphere would, of course, be celebrating autumnal equinox.   


updated by @robin-thompson: 02/16/22 11:17:05AM
cairney
cairney
@steve-c
3 years ago
93 posts

A vernal equinox is a cool idea but cannot be set up as an official calendar date.  It will be hard to get it recognized as “a special day.”  I think folks in the dulcimer world might prefer to say, “We celebrate International Appalachian Dulcimer Day on March 20th!” As opposed to “ We celebrate International Appalachian Dulcimer Day on the Vernal Equinox!”  Really? Just when will that be next year?  Crickets… 

Dan
Dan
@dan
3 years ago
193 posts

...second Saturday in April......

 
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