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Skip
@skip
03/09/19 11:36:38AM
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Dad tuning


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

That's a pretty broad question. Commercial, for sale, is probably around 19-20". Folkcraft has a travel dulcimer with a 22" VSL. It's possible to make them very short. For example, put a capo on fret 7 on yours. You have effectively created a very short VSL, the capo making the fret a zero fret. Move the capo more towards the bridge and the VSL will get shorter. Playability/tuning not considered.


updated by @skip: 03/09/19 11:38:36AM
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/09/19 10:24:11AM
188 posts

Dad tuning


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

What is the shortest VSL for DAd tuning?

Mandy
@mandy
03/08/19 07:13:29PM
140 posts

How do you Practice?


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Hey Diane, here’s what I do.  I play multiple instruments so this really helps me a lot.  I’ll also outline a typical practice session for me and what I teach on banjo.  

I first do a slow warm up.  Here’s the fun part.  Grab some good old index cards.  Punch a hole in the corner of them and put a ring binder thing in the hole.  Then write 1 song on each card that you know.  When I say “know” I mean you play it by memory and no tab or sheet music.  Let’s say you really know 10 songs well.  Then during this 10 minute warmup (or however long you use for a warmup) you play the first card (song) once through slowly.  Then flip another card and play the next song.  Do this slowly and if you mess up or can’t remember any of it, continue playing it through until you get it right, but keep it slow.  Next practice session you pick where you left off in the stack.  Let’s say you go through 2 or 3 cards each practice session.  Then over the course of the week of practicing you’ve done went through all 10 of your cards and kept those songs fresh.  Continue to add cards as you learn a new song fully.  Try it out, it’s fun, and you don’t have to think about it too much or worry about “losing” songs.  If you decide you don’t particularly want to keep a certain song, then chuck that card out in the trash and move on.  Sorry to be long winded but that’s a great warmup that will also keep your songs fresh.  *Not my idea by the way, I read this years ago somewhere and  started using it. 

After warmup, normally I have folks work on techniques.  This can be done using a song, a certain section of a song, chords, scales (if so inclined), or short pieces.  I also have them drill sections here that are sticky and a little tough to complete up to speed. This would also be where we use a metronome (if we are using one at the time). 

Next I have them working songs.  Usually we have one we are currently on (learning) and one we start with. So we are normally working on 2 songs at a time and some technique.  May or may not use a metronome here as well depending (or a drum track, or something fun like that).

Then the last bit is always reserved for FUN time.  Anything goes here, anything that makes you smile! Cut loose and have a blast playing your dulcimer.  

I ask people to devote at least 30 minutes per session, 4 times a week.  Me personally I play a LOT more than that though, LOL because all of it makes me smile.  

Blessings,

Mandy 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/08/19 03:54:26PM
1,857 posts

How do you Practice?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Apologies since Don and I hijacked this discussion momentarily.  It should not be about the specific scales that I play.  @Diane-R's original question is about how different people practice and how they keep up the songs they have learned.

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/08/19 01:51:23PM
188 posts

How do you Practice?


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Yes! I was able to open your video. Thank you.
Don
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/08/19 01:38:55PM
1,857 posts

How do you Practice?


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Don Grundy:  I can’t open your video. I’m subscribed to your YouTube videos.

Try the video again. I just edited the settings.

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/08/19 01:36:51PM
188 posts

How do you Practice?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Thank you!
I printed your tab scales and ordered Mike Casey’s book.
I can’t open your video. I’m subscribed to your YouTube videos.
I’ll keep moving along trying to get better.
Thanks for the help!
Don
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/08/19 12:32:25PM
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How do you Practice?


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Don Grundy: dusty, I don’t read music and can only play with tabs. Can you give me examples of the scales and arpeggios you play? Thanks. Don

@Don-Grundy, here is a quick video I just made that demonstrates the main scales I am working on now and hints at the arpeggios as well.


Here is tab for the first scale , which goes up each string individually.


Here is tab for the second scale , which really works the pinky and goes across the strings in the first position.


I have not yet put together tab for the third scale I demonstrate that starts on the open bass string and then goes up two octaves to the seventh fret of the melody string.  Check back with me in a few days and I'll try to put something together.


In the video I mention a tune by @Mark-Gilston called "Time and Tide" which is a study of arpeggios.  It's actually a beautiful tune and calling it a study does not do it justice.  I also mention a book by @Aaron-ORourke called Faster Cleaner Better , which I have started working with for arpeggio exercises.  I should probably have started with Mike Casey's book Hands-On Dulcimer  which includes an enormous assortment of exercises for both right and left hands.


updated by @dusty: 03/08/19 12:53:00PM
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/08/19 11:34:26AM
188 posts

How do you Practice?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

dusty, I don’t read music and can only play with tabs.
Can you give me examples of the scales and arpeggios you play?
Thanks.
Don
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/08/19 11:26:48AM
1,857 posts

How do you Practice?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Regardless of how you start playing, I think it's important to end by playing something that you know pretty well.  To avoid the frustration that comes from trying to improve on any musical instrument, it is essential to maintain a feeling of satisfaction and confidence.  Don't put the dulcimer down when you're frustrated; rather, put it down with a feeling of joy and competence.  Make sure the last tune you play is something you know well and that gives you pleasure.

Unlike Ken, I do practice.  There are techniques or songs that I find challenging that I want to learn.  Of course, sometimes I just play and don't care about mistakes or improving. That's important, too. But when I want to focus and consciously improve my playing I always start with some scales and arpeggios to get my technique into shape.  Then I might play one song that I've learned recently, but pretty soon I start with whatever I'm working on at the moment. It might be a song or it might be a technique. Often it's a tiny section of a song, even a measure that's giving me problems, and I'll obsess on that measure, playing it over and over and over.  But as I said above, while that OCD behavior does indeed lead to improvement, it can also be frustrating, so I make sure I avoid or at least minimize that feeling of frustration by switching to a tune that I know well.

Occasionally, I review lists of songs to make sure I don't "lose" any.  Right now I have two different lists.  One is the tunes that I play with my local dulcimer group.  I don't really mind if I make mistakes with that stuff, since we play it all together, but I want to at least remember how each tune goes.  The second list is my list of tunes that I might play if someone asked me to play in front of people.  That list changes, as I add and drop tunes as my tastes and abilities evolve, but I try to make sure I can play those tunes with as few mistakes as possible.  I don't go over these lists of tunes every day, though.  Depending on how busy life gets I might only get to them once every couple of weeks.

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/08/19 11:23:40AM
188 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

My chromatics are all key of C. My tenor Hohner CX-12s are my favorite.
I agree about Hohner. I think Suzuki is the most innovative of the big three manufacturers.
I have never had any luck with Seydel chromatics.
I have two 16 hole chromatics. My favorite is the Hohner Super 64X. A piano has 88 keys and you have 64 notes in your hand. Amazing!
I also have a Swan 16 hole chromatic which is fine and only costs about $100.
Grab any instrument. Harmonica or dulcimer: make music and have fun.
robert schuler
@robert-schuler
03/08/19 10:51:40AM
258 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Don Grundy: I have a number of harmonicas. Learning to play the diatonic well is difficult. Google Buddy Greene at Carnegie Hall. I have primarily play my chromatics. When I need the sharp or flat I push a button. And I like to play Broadway music as well as folk music and jazz.

Don, I often desire a chromatic. Problem is mine have broken reeds. I have sent them to Hohner for repair which gets a bit expensive. I always think of "someday" learning to repair reeds myself, but someday never seems to come. 

This is a great time to get into harmonica since new companies are offering instruments with different tuning options, even custom tuning to order. Sometimes I think Hohner is stuck in the past and is reluctant to innovate... Robert

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/07/19 11:55:35PM
188 posts

Luthiers - Cedar Creek?


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John Keane glad you’re maintaining a relationship with Cedarcreekdulcimers. They are very nice people.
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/07/19 11:50:50PM
188 posts

How do you Practice?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I play a half dozen songs from my beginner DAd book. And then just roam the fretboard.
In the evening, relaxing I play my dulcimer tuned DAAA playing hymns and music in my head. It’s truly my Zen time.
I enjoy both.
Don Grundy
@don-grundy
03/07/19 11:46:10PM
188 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I have a number of harmonicas. Learning to play the diatonic well is difficult. Google Buddy Greene at Carnegie Hall.
I have primarily play my chromatics. When I need the sharp or flat I push a button. And I like to play Broadway music as well as folk music and jazz.
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/07/19 11:00:01PM
2,416 posts

How do you Practice?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

One way to break up any boredom is to take just one or two tunes you want to work on or want to 'refresh'- then play the tune much slower than usual, while trying to keep it sounding good.  Then play it just a little faster than usual, keeping it sounding ok.  Lastly, play it as your usual speed, but try to purposely put a lot of feeling into your playing.  I think this is a good thing to try out when playing/practicing at home, and will benefit all your tunes.  Particularly helpful is putting in the conscious effort to play with emotion and feeling... something a lot of people ignore even when playing for others.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/07/19 10:33:06PM
2,157 posts

How do you Practice?


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I don't consciously "practice".  I just play, stream-of-conscious from the bank of songs and tunes stuck in my head.  No set number of times through.  I'll go back and re-run a sticky bit perhaps.  But I just play.

Kusani
@kusani
03/07/19 09:40:04PM
134 posts

Working with Tropical Woods


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Thanks Bob. :)  I have some other requests involving tropicals so I need to be assured of quality finishes.  


updated by @kusani: 03/07/19 09:41:40PM
Diane R
@diane-r
03/07/19 08:47:58PM
22 posts

How do you Practice?


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Was just wondering how people practice?  Do you go through your whole repertoire and then dig in to your newest song?  Or do you start out with the one you're trying to learn?  I notice when I play all the known songs first (three times each without mistakes) that I'm a bit tired by the time I get to the new learn.  I play them all because I don't want to forget them since I memorize them. Just wanted to know what others do so maybe I can break up the monotony a little.  Thanks :)


updated by @diane-r: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Bob
@bob
03/07/19 06:24:16PM
87 posts

Working with Tropical Woods


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That's a beauty for sure! I imagine your customer is very happyjive

If you do want to finish Bloodwood, or any oily tropical hardwood, you can simply wipe it down with some acetone to remove the surface oils. Then apply a thin coat/swipe of Shellac. Then, you're set to go with the poly!

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/07/19 03:40:34PM
2,416 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hey @kjb , you should talk with fotmd member @terry-wilson .... he is a big fan of playing harmonica for fun!  He plays all kinds of music on his harps, I think just about every day.  jive

kjb
@kjb
03/07/19 02:45:49PM
12 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

As a teenager I started playing blues on guitar and harmonica.  I rarely play either now, but still love to play harmonica with other blues musicians.  

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/07/19 12:35:37PM
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Working with Tropical Woods


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Wow, really nice figured rosewood. It is a beautiful instrument.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Kusani
@kusani
03/06/19 09:24:53PM
134 posts

Working with Tropical Woods


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Thanks folks. I normally am asked by clients for walnut, maple, and/or cherry; sometimes cedar and others. The weight of this build was considerably heavier but it definately did not affect the sound in a negative manner what-so-ever. 

 

 

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
03/06/19 08:43:46PM
143 posts

Working with Tropical Woods


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Those are some beautiful woods, Kusani...you built a sharp looking dulcimer there!

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/06/19 08:30:36PM
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Synthetic fretboard


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There are some pretty fancy carbon-fiber guitars that are made specifically for outdoor extreme temperatures.  And I've played those ukuleles like the Waterman by Kala that can be used as an oar if you get stuck in a boat.  But I don't think dulcimers built along those lines would be so simple or inexpensive.

My initial thought is similar to what @Greg-Gunner and @Ken-Hulme have suggested.  Get an octave dulcimer.  They are no more than 2 feet long and can easily be transported in a small padded case and left beside your desk while you work. Then you just sling it over your shoulder, grab your lunch pail, and have a musical lunch hour.  I work from home and still sometimes play one during lunchtime!  My wife sometimes takes a shoulder bag to work that could easily hold a purse, a lunch, and an octave dulcimer.  You could do the same.


updated by @dusty: 03/06/19 08:32:29PM
Dan
@dan
03/06/19 08:14:46PM
207 posts

Synthetic fretboard


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I've ordered a piece of 6061 aluminum bar stock. I'm going to put together a prototype extreme dulcimer, (ED) this weekend.

Colleen Hailey
@colleen-hailey
03/06/19 02:55:43PM
67 posts

Concert Ukulele


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They're like potato chips--nobody can have just one.

kjb
@kjb
03/06/19 02:45:35PM
12 posts

Cigar Box Guitars


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I need a cigar box uke or guitar.  Since they are often tuned in 5ths like mountain dulcimers, do you find it helps playing them?

kjb
@kjb
03/06/19 02:27:59PM
12 posts

Concert Ukulele


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Colleen Hailey:

So, I am now on my third ukulele... Apparently Ukulele Acquisition Disorder is as much of a thing as DAD.  I now have a Fluke style concert, my original Kala CEM and a Kala tenor. Can play some chords now but strumming still a bit of a challenge.  I was a slow learner on the dulcimer and will undoubtably be so on the ukulele as well.

I have several ukuleles.  My favorite is the Fluke.  Also have a Flea and Firefly (banjo uke) which are great.  Another favorite uke I bought for $30 on a beach in Italy.  It has a great sound.

 

kjb
@kjb
03/06/19 02:01:03PM
12 posts

Tenor Guitars


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I don’t have a tenor guitar, but I have tuned a Ruan, or Chinese Moon Guitar like one.  It was an ornament for years, but great fun to play.  Please check out the link and enjoy.

kjb
@kjb
03/06/19 01:44:47PM
12 posts

Recommendations for a bow to play a Violin Uke


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Leaned about a new instrument today.  Thanks for posting.

kjb
@kjb
03/06/19 01:38:42PM
12 posts

Balalaika, the most Russianist of Russian instruments


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I have a Balalaika which I play occasionally.  I tune mine like a 3 string ukulele CEA and often play clawhammer style.  The high metal string rings and can give a good drone sound.  Great fun.

Kusani
@kusani
03/06/19 12:53:20PM
134 posts

Working with Tropical Woods


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This commissioned piece was built of Rosewood, Bloodwood, and Satinwood; the wood was provided by the client. I found out, after the fact, that rosewood does not like polyurethane; should have googled it first.  However, was able to remove the poly and successfully replace with two coats of polish and all is well. dulcimer

 


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updated by @kusani: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/04/19 07:12:32PM
1,564 posts

Playing again after losing all my dulcimers


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Jeannie, I offer healing wishes for your health and all good wishes for the many things with what you must be dealing with.  Take care.  

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/04/19 05:26:47PM
1,345 posts

Playing again after losing all my dulcimers


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Welcome back, Jeannie. It is wonderful to hear about your new dulcimers. David makes a really nice dulcimer which I'm sure you will enjoy. My best wishes are extended to you as you continue to recover from the fire and loss of your home and possessions.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/04/19 12:33:17PM
2,416 posts

Pennywhistle


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Hi Bill!

There's a great discussion thread here on penny whistles, you might like to post there instead:

https://fotmd.com/forums/forum/adventures-with-other-instruments/3827/tinwhistle-penny-whistles

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