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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
07/07/17 11:02:55PM
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The Gauges of the Strings


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I personally try to use the heaviest gauge strings that sound OK on a particular instrument.  Sometimes it takes some experimentation to find out what that is.  Heavier strings sound less tinny rounder.  They might require heavier callouses, but I find the improved tone to be worth it. Also, if you like to bend strings, you have more control with heavier strings since there is more resistance.  Also, because heavier strings are louder, you can play more delicately and still get decent volume, so they allow a greater dynamic range.

It never occurred to me to swap out wound strings for plain steel. Maybe I'll give that a try.

Strumelia
@strumelia
07/07/17 08:31:39PM
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The Gauges of the Strings


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I'd like to mention that when i got my Keith Young teardrop dulcimer almost 20 years ago, he explained to me that he favored stringing his dulcimers with heavy unwound bass strings.  Also, quite a few minstrel style banjo players favor unwound gut or nylon bass strings.

Strumelia
@strumelia
07/07/17 08:24:44PM
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Happy Anniversary!!


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Oh my goodness- think you all so much for your very sweet posts! 

It's been a fun and eventful eight years.  time

I want to thank the wonderful volunteer site Moderators who help advise me, keep things safe here, and put in a great deal of their time and energy behind the scenes.

Dan
@dan
07/07/17 05:59:51PM
207 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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....music wire, number 8 (.020) for the bass string is how I string them too!

MacAodha
@macaodha
07/07/17 05:56:15PM
34 posts

Happy Anniversary!!


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Only for you Lisa, I might not be playing today and as it happens  I just sat here for the past few hours singing and playing after our wedding anniversary  dinner that our sons cooked for us. Thank you LISA had this not come along I would not be playing . Best wishes.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
07/07/17 02:02:44PM
2,157 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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Sean -- it's a "sound" thing.  To me an un-wound string is a crisper sound than a fat wound string flopping back and forth.


updated by @ken-hulme: 07/07/17 02:03:37PM
Kusani
@kusani
07/07/17 01:46:51PM
134 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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I'm in the non-wound camp also, the 'whine' for lack of a better term, is very distracting to me. 

Sean Ruprecht-Belt
@sean-belt
07/07/17 01:30:31PM
31 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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Ken,

Why non-wound for the bass string? Is it sound, feel of the winding or cost? I don't think I've met anyone else who doesn't use a wound bass string.

Kusani
@kusani
07/07/17 12:09:16PM
134 posts

Happy Anniversary!!


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 A GREAT service for the dulcimer community!  

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
07/07/17 11:03:19AM
420 posts

Happy Anniversary!!


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You done good, Lisa.  Thank you very much.   bighug

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
07/07/17 08:50:27AM
442 posts

Happy Anniversary!!


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A real note of congratulation and appreciation for your virtual opened doors!   nod

Thank you for creating and maintaining this important dulcimer forum, Lisa.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
07/07/17 08:03:00AM
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Happy Anniversary!!


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Yay, FOTMD!  

Thank you, Strumrlia, for all your work here. xxx

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
07/07/17 07:34:04AM
2,157 posts

Happy Anniversary!!


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Eight years ago today, FOTMD opened its virtual doors for the first time.  

Thank you Lisa...


updated by @ken-hulme: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
07/05/17 08:43:05PM
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Just use the Strothers String Gauge calculator -- plug in the VSL and the notes of the open tuning you want to use (DAd, DAA, etc)  http://www.strothers.com/string_choice.html

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
07/05/17 11:50:35AM
2,157 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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I play mostly old-style traditional instruments with 27-28" VSL, three strings, fretting only the melody string.  I normally buy bulk 12s for the melody and middle drone, and non-wound 20s or 22s for the bass string.

Sean Ruprecht-Belt
@sean-belt
07/05/17 10:26:26AM
31 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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I tend not to worry about VSL so much when choosing strings as I do about what sounds good on a given instrument. For the most part, I buy bulk banjo strings in .012, .014 and a wrapped .024 gauge. However, I sometimes use .010s or .011s for melody strings if that's all I have on hand.

On a beautiful Modern Mountain dulcimer I had (gee, I wish I hadn't sold that to a student a few years ago!) made of poplar, spruce and Osage orange wood, I used .011, .014, and a nickle-wrapped .022 because it was just to bright sounding with a .024. 

As always, my recommendation is that you experiment with different strings, different winding materials and see what works best for you. Strings are inexpensive and only take a few minutes to change.

Webb
@webb
07/04/17 10:47:51AM
6 posts

The Gauges of the Strings


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I am always experimenting and curious with string gauges on the dulcimore. I am curious to what size string gauges the community uses varying on different VSL's and what conclusions they have come up with, if any.

Strumelia
@strumelia
07/02/17 10:01:26PM
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I'll remove it- thanks Blondie!

Blondie
@blondie
07/02/17 09:51:23PM
25 posts



Strumelia,

I would like my ad 'high spirits flutes' for sale removed.  I did not sell them.  Thanks!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
06/30/17 11:24:57PM
1,550 posts

Lyle Rickards on lap dulcimer & Abby the Spoon Lady


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marg
@marg
06/30/17 01:45:20AM
620 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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I ran across  Vander Woude"  dulcimers & they have the very same sound hole as my trailing/weeping/bleeding heart, what a surprise. His site directs one to Hewoud Music. Vander Woude decided to retire & his granddaughter, Victoria has taken over the business. I wrote her & she sent back this reply below. It was very sweet for Victoria to take the time to do this research - much like what has already been posted.

I hear their dulcimers are 'beautiful' & the sound 'unique'

"The meaning, origins, and history of the Trailing/Weeping/Bleeding Heart soundhole design are completely shrouded in mystery. Mountain Dulcimer lovers have been debating over it for years, but there appears to be no single concrete answers available. There are numerous theories, some of which I have included here: -Bleeding or Weeping Heart shapes are traditionally used to represent sadness or loss. For those who enjoyed playing sad love songs or wished to commemorate a lost loved one, bleeding heart soundholes would add a sentimental touch to their instrument and music. -A common theory is that they are not “bleeding” hearts but rather a depiction of “Trailing Hearts”, a flowering vine with heart-shaped leaves, also known as the Rosary Vine. Some Mountain Dulcimer builders specifically state that their design is a heart-shaped leaf and vine. -The geometrical heart shape was originally used to represent leaves (not sentiment), especially of the Linden tree. Legend says that any couple who sits under the branches of “the tree of lovers” would be in love forever. -The Pennsylvania Dutch frequently used hearts in their décor to represent love of God, family, friends, and country. The tips of the trailing hearts point heavenwards as a reminder that true love comes from God. The Mountain Dulcimer was partially based on a German folk instrument (the zither) and was commonly used as a church instrument, so this heart design is a reflection of the instrument’s roots. -The simplest theory is that the ornamental heart was born from builders experimenting with how to make heart soundholes more elegant. No symbolism was meant beyond those conveyed in standard hearts. As you can see, symbolism is mainly left open to interpretation now. Some people don't relish the thought of having "bleeding" hearts on their instrument and prefer the floral explanations. Others feel the historical meanings are more substantial. Legends and theories aside, the Trailing/Weeping/Bleeding Heart soundhole has become one of the most common and beloved Mountain Dulcimer soundhole designs. Most builders seem to use it as a soundhole design option. Its graceful ornamental shape adds a nice touch of whimsy to this beautiful folk instrument, it allows greater resonance than most soundhole designs, and the mysteries behind its origins reflect the mysteries of the Mountain Dulcimer’s true roots"

Charles Thomas
@charles-thomas
06/29/17 06:11:00PM
77 posts

Stone pick


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Randy, I think Barney was underrated!
Randy Adams
@randy-adams
06/29/17 05:38:32PM
125 posts

Stone pick


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I like to think Fred Flintstone might have played the dulcimer Steve. And he was one of the greatest actors of all time.
marg
@marg
06/29/17 04:18:11PM
620 posts

Sam Carrell dulcimer


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Peg holding, YEA

Hey hey, pencil eraser - rub that on & the little bits (like adding fiber to our diets) has the bass peg holding. WOW, no slipping. Has anyone else tried an eraser?

Trevor Boyd
@trevor-boyd
06/29/17 11:07:12AM
4 posts

Why aren't I seeing all postings in a Group discussion?.


Site QUESTIONS ? How do I...?


Often when I visit the home page I see a listing of discussion topics, many of which have a number of comments or replies associated with them.  However when I click on these entries I only see the original posting and not the full thread.  How do I get to see all the comments/replies?

Many thanks

 

Trevor

Steven Berger
@steven-berger
06/29/17 10:42:02AM
143 posts

Stone pick


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If Fred Flintstone played the dulcimer, he might feel right at home using your pick. Nice finds, Charles!

 

Steven

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
06/28/17 10:38:45PM
1,550 posts

Stone pick


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How cool, Charles!  Rock on!  ⭐️

Charles Thomas
@charles-thomas
06/28/17 07:47:38PM
77 posts

Stone pick


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I was looking for other stones to make a pick out of when I found this stone(And 12 cents). I remembered Ken H's post about his malachite noter and I thought "This might work".  After polishing I now have a stone noter and pick!  Rock music!!!  


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Strumelia
@strumelia
06/28/17 06:53:19PM
2,403 posts

Almeda Riddle


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Yes I have that book too Stephen- it's a great book with lots of descriptive background.  

Stephen Addison
@stephen-addison
06/28/17 06:11:17PM
9 posts

Almeda Riddle


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I have a great book by Almeda Riddle.  It's called 

A Singer and Her Songs; Almeda Riddle's Book of Ballads


There are currently several copies on Amazon.com at good prices.  

JenniferC
@jenniferc
06/28/17 11:03:04AM
36 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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I've really enjoyed looking through everyone's pictures on this forum topic!

This is my Ron Gibson teardrop. I spent a number of years living in an area frequented by barn swallows, and spent almost every morning sitting on my front porch watching them. Ron did a great job interpreting what I wanted!
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Salt Springs
@salt-springs
06/27/17 07:17:37PM
215 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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The Germans (Penn. Dutch) used the heart to represent 4 ideas concerning love.......love of God, love of family, love of friends and love of country at least that is what I recall from years ago.  In the old German Lutheran Liturgy which I grew up with, like the Roman liturgy the Sursum Corda is offered by the celebrant who intones........."Lift up your hearts" and the congregants reply........."We lift them up unto the Lord."    That intonation goes back to the third or fourth century according to those old dusty books I have.  The upward pointed heart may be a reference to doing that......looking to heaven the source of all true love.   (see those years of seminary have provided me with all sorts of information that would be great if I ever get on Jeopardy).  When the German settlers put hearts on all sorts of things they usually referred to love of family or community and faith.  Some have said  that upward pointing hearts meant the instrument was to be used for hymnody and celebration and the regular heart for the love of one human being for all of creation including family and friends.   Then again, maybe this is just all speculation......but it is fun to think about.

 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/27/17 04:04:23PM
2,157 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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IIRC "trailing hearts" is what the Ford's called their "vine with multiple heart shaped leaves" soundhole design.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
06/27/17 01:56:44PM
1,847 posts

Show us your sound holes!


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


marg: ken

(   Linden leaf - a source of magical power ...  "bleeding heart" - too sentimental or liberal )


Both of those meanings sound better than maybe 'sad'


thanks 


I am not even sure the design in question is usually considered a "bleeding" or "weeping" heart, both of which imply loss and sadness.  What about a "trailing" heart?  I have definitely heard that term used.  I think Ron Ewing refers to trailing hearts as a soundhole option for his dulcimers.  It might even be a reference to a rosary vine, which is sometimes called a string of hearts or trailing hearts plant.


string of hearts image.jpg


Of course, it is very likely that there is no one stable meaning to a single image, but that different luthiers think it means different things or even nothing at all but just looks cool.


updated by @dusty: 06/27/17 02:00:17PM
marg
@marg
06/27/17 01:28:31PM
620 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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 Salt-Springs,

A true treasure

 

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
06/27/17 01:05:37PM
215 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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Ike and Izzy........the last two Carolina Parakeets before the species went extinct.  These sound holes were done By Kerry Coates and this is one of the last dulcimers she built.  A genuine lady and true artist.  

 

 

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updated by @salt-springs: 06/27/17 01:09:40PM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
06/27/17 12:39:28PM
2,157 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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Kerry passed away in 2014; her passing was a great loss to the dulcimer world.

 

marg
@marg
06/27/17 11:21:52AM
620 posts

Show us your sound holes!


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ken

( Linden leaf - a source of magical power ... "bleeding heart" - too sentimental or liberal)

Both of those meanings sound better than maybe 'sad'

thanks

John Gribble
@john-gribble
06/27/17 10:50:40AM
124 posts

Sam Carrell dulcimer


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Chalk will sometimes help with pegs which won't hold. Dan's suggestion of peg drops is good, too. I use "peg dope." It is actually jeweler's rouge, a very fine polish. It comes in a little tube and looks like a brown crayon or art pastel. Lightly rub the pegs with it where the pegs make contact with the sides of the holes. I bought mine in a music store which stocks goods for violin. 

I don't think water or spit are a good idea. 

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