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red87445
@red87445
03/06/17 09:53:35PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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Thank you all! I replaced the strings and it sounds great :) Out of curiosity does if Cripple Creek uses stains on their wood?

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
03/06/17 08:47:59PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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I string my 26 and 27" scale dulcimers with DAddario J64 string set...Robert...
shawn wright
@shawn-wright
03/06/17 08:02:14PM
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Can't pick just one but these are in the topdulcimer  sun comfort

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/06/17 05:45:43PM
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The Dancing Man always reminds me of Mr. Bojangles.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/06/17 05:42:07PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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Dusty's got the string gauges right, that's for certain; or as right as anyone can be without knowing the VSL of your instrument(s).  There is a right way and wrong way to install strings, depending on the kind of tuners.  

As far as bridge materials, many of us use hard woods -- at least as hard as Maple, I prefer even harder woods like Lignum Vitae.  You can buy small (3/4" x 3/4" x 5" pieces of exotic hardwoods which are marketed as "Pen Blanks" on Ebay -- I see a number of very hard wood blanks for under $3 each.  Folkcraft and others have Corian or other hard plastic bridges with the notches already cut.  You can also make bridges from bone -- buy a piece of de-greased bone from a pet shop.  Send me a PM if you'd like more detail.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
03/06/17 05:30:06PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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I agree with Dusty. Check the string calculator. It tends to give a "lighter" gauge string setting so you can always go up, e.g., if it says 0.010 you can use an 0.011 or 0.012. For a 27 VSL I like .011, .013, and .024. As for the bridge material, what is the nut made of? Most builders use the same material for the nut and the bridge. Just match it.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/06/17 05:10:02PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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For string gauges, I usually send people to the Strothers' String Gauge Calculator .  You simply enter the vibrating string length (VSL, or the distance between the nut and the bridge) and the note you want to tune to, and the calculator will tell you what gauge to use. It errs on the light side, so feel free to use a size or two larger.

For a dulcimer with a 27" VSL, I would imagine a wound .022 or .024 for the bass, . 012 or .014 for the middle, and .010 or .012 would work for a DAd tuning.  I use slightly heavier strings than that, but you'll have to discover your preference.

The bass string is almost always wound and heavier than the others, but if you are tuned DAAA, then the melody string(s) and the middle strings would indeed be the same.

I don't really know what to say about the material for the bridge and nut.  Hardwoods work well but so does bone, and there are some synthetics that people are using these days as well.  Maybe one of the luthiers can chime in and offer some advice.

majajog
@majajog
03/06/17 03:52:51PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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I am not going to be much help since I'm not really a musician.  But, I will note that all the 4 string McSpaddens I own or have seen have 3 different size strings.  So I am not sure that having 4 different string sizes they are the wrong strings.

red87445
@red87445
03/06/17 03:38:25PM
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Recommendations for new strings and new a bridge?


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Hi all! I recently bought a Cripple Creek dulcimer on eBay, and unfortunately, my email isn't sending through to Cripple Creek. I was wondering if anyone here would have the answer to my questions?

Are there any particular instructions on which strings to use and the preferred method of installation? I've put a new set on it, and it sounds great but would just like to know if there were any specific recommendations. The strings that came with it from the person who sold it were very obviously the wrong ones. They were even 4 different sizes.

I have another old, used, dulcimer and the bridge was either damaged or completely absent. I was wondering what the best material would be to replace it.

Metal or wood or something else entirely?

Susie
@susie
03/06/17 01:42:57PM
515 posts



Paula Brawdy:
Susie:

 

I got an adjustable possum board from Jim VanderWoude at Evart. It fits all my dulcimers. I added rubber tubing to the posts and some additional felt in a couple spots to make sure the dulcimers don't get scratched. Very well made and thought out. It folds up too, for storage/travel.

 

 

Hi,  how do they feel on your lap?  Pro and cons?  Jim lives close to me so would be convenient to buy from

Oh my, I just saw your question....sorry.

His possum boards are comfy on the lap. He also puts strap pins on it. The only thing is that the dulcimer sits a bit higher on your lap, but you can get used to that.

 

 


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Susie
@susie
03/06/17 01:27:32PM
515 posts

Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


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My first was a FolkRoots hourglass, spruce/walnut, purchased at Elderly Instruments. Beautiful tone and looked really nice. I have since purchased a FolkRoots with a shorter scale length that I have converted to a baritone and a Folkcraft Custom. Still loving their dulcimers. 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/06/17 12:34:14PM
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Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


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@majajog , that's a great story, and probably one that is repeated often, for one of the aspects of the dulcimer that we celebrate is how accessible it is even to those with no musical experience.  Thanks to the McSpadden salesperson who just sat you down and put a dulcimer in your lap!

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
03/06/17 08:14:25AM
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grphug  This is the one I like for the FOTMD Family! dulcimer nahnah

majajog
@majajog
03/06/17 01:16:38AM
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Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


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Our first dulcimers were a ginger for my spouse and a standard for me, both bought from McSpadden.  We sort ended up in Mountain View five years ago, basically by accident.  We had a good time listening to the music and eventually went to McSpaddens to see the dulcimers we fell in love with 40 years earlier.  Thought they were beautiful but knew neither of us had any talent at all so we looked around and left.  Went back a couple of days later for a last look before heading home.  The door to the shop has a sign that says "if you can to 10, you can play."  We both laughed at it, knowing that neither of us could ever play an instrument.  

This time, after looking around for awhile, a salesperson talked me into sitting down and holding a dulcimer.  I thought that was pretty cool but, I knew I could never play and I said so and besides I was left handed anyway.  She took the dulcimer away and laid a left handed dulcimer on my lap and said "here, play it."  I said "huh, I don't know how and don't have any talent anyway". She said you don't need talent just a desire and some tab.  I said "what's tab?"  She showed me some tab, explained the numbers and told me to try and play.  I got through the first 2 measures and could tell it more or less sounded like "Ode To Joy". Couldn't believe it.

My spouse then went through the same thing with the same outcome.  We promptly said we'll take two.  Spent the next couple of hours deciding on size, shape, woods etc., gave them a credit card and told them ship them to us when they were done.  Best thing we ever did.

They turned out great, at least to us, sound great and we play almost everyday.  Started our own little group that meets every week to practice, learn new stuff and play old favorites.  Unbelievably, my spouse and I even played at a nursing home with some members of our group.  The people there seemed to enjoy it so we were pretty excited.

We still don't have any talent, we will never be very good players but we have fun practicing and have met some wonderful people and hear music all the time now.  Best money we ever spent.

dulcinina
@dulcinina
03/05/17 09:04:24PM
88 posts

Piano music to accompany dulcimer


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OK. Thanks for the advice.  We'll just have to give it a try.  It's for our own amusement.

Sheryl St. Clare
@sheryl-st-clare
03/05/17 08:34:08PM
259 posts

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You nailed it Strumelia. mrdance

 

 

Noah Aikens
@noah-aikens
03/05/17 08:29:55PM
33 posts

Piano music to accompany dulcimer


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If it's an electric piano volume won't be as much of a problem.
As far as what to play, play what you know even if it's noter drone. It wil all sound good. Your friend will just have to find music to accompany you!
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/05/17 08:04:14PM
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What's your favorite FOTMD smiley?


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Dusty that dancing guy always reminds me of the Young Frankenstein movie with Frankie dancing in a tuxedo... mrdance

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/05/17 05:54:59PM
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The cat wagging its tail  catdance is pure Strumelia, for sure!

Bob, I like the dancing pickle pimento   but also the dancing guy silhouette mrdance .

And Lexie, Smiley deserves his own smiley! hamster  Let's pretend that's a hamster chew toy smiley.

Jan has pointed out the sweetest smiley of all comfort  .  It almost makes me tear up.

Strumelia
@strumelia
03/05/17 05:41:59PM
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Our thanks to Teri West for her creative dulcimer smiley!

Lexi- give a big pat to Smiley for us... he's a special feller for sure!  

I admit I'm particularly fond of these smileys:

gangnam1   catdance   kittyscratch   krazyhair   puking   poo     ... lolol!

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
03/05/17 05:38:30PM
231 posts

Piano music to accompany dulcimer


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Dulcinina, a while back I asked my daughter to play the piano while I played my dulcimer. Unless you are amplified in some way the piano will overwhelm the dulcimer. I'm no expert but unless I was wired my acoustic dulcimer was no match for the piano, especially when my daughter hit those keys, LOL 

Bob Reinsel
@bob-reinsel
03/05/17 03:58:03PM
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I'm a big fan of the dancing pickle. pimento   And this guy dancecool

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
03/05/17 03:45:54PM
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His name is Smiley, he is my favorite FOTMD Smiley cause he loves to sing to your songs.

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Susie
@susie
03/05/17 02:26:44PM
515 posts

What's your favorite FOTMD smiley?


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I used the new flute character flute yesterday.

 

Jan Potts
@jan-potts
03/05/17 10:39:14AM
402 posts

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Ken, the dulcimer  smiley was designed by FOTMD member--and my good friend, artist, and dulcimer-playing buddy--Teri West, of Louisville, KY.  Years ago, I found the design on Café Press and had a totebag made with the design and the next dulcimer event I attended she spotted it and introduced herself.  We live 100 miles apart, but see each other as often as we can work it out--and we're usually at the same events.  She'll be happy you like it--it's one of my favorites, too!

Some of my other favorites are:  grphug ,   comfort ,   joyjoy ,   duck , and  happydance .

dulcinina
@dulcinina
03/05/17 09:22:20AM
88 posts

Piano music to accompany dulcimer


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A friend who plays piano wants to accompany me as I play the dulcimer.  Any of you have suggestions for suitable music?  I'm an intermediate/beginner so it needs to be simple.  I was leaning toward hymns but am open to any suggestions.  Dulcinina

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/05/17 08:53:19AM
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What's your favorite FOTMD smiley?


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dulcimer   Not that I use this that often, but it is my favorite; wish there was a way to use it other places!

Banjimer
@greg-gunner
03/05/17 04:36:37AM
143 posts

Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


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My first dulcimer was an hourglass Folk Roots dulcimer purchased in about 1985 or 1986 from Elderly Instruments.  While visiting one of the Toledo Metroparks I stopped to listen to a lady playing a dulcimer at a very small gathering organized by one of the park rangers.  I ordered my first dulcimer from Elderly Instruments shortly thereafter.  About three or four years later I organized a dulcimer club for students at the local elementary school.  By then I owned three or four dulcimers, so I sold my Folk Roots model to one of the students at a fraction of its value to help them obtain their own instrument.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/05/17 03:12:11AM
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I thought this might be fun.  Have you noticed the new smileys that Strumelia has made available to us?  Do you have any favorites?

 

It's rain  today and I just finished dulcimer  so I thought I might ask if you guys heart  certain smileys or if they just make you want to puking .


updated by @dusty: 01/13/19 05:09:18PM
Monica
@monica
03/04/17 06:00:06PM
64 posts

Native American Flutes


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Congratulations Susie, While I don't have a high spirits Em. I have the maple from Ancient territories..if I had to grab just one flute It would be that Em. 

Susie
@susie
03/04/17 05:47:47PM
515 posts

Native American Flutes


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My HS Em Condor Bass in Spanish Cedar arrives on Monday. flute

I went with cedar, because I have a mid-tone G in cedar, and I love its tone. I have a couple walnut flutes already.


updated by @susie: 03/04/17 05:51:25PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/04/17 02:58:49PM
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I've Just Bought a BANJO !!!!


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Yeah I can see how DropC tuning would be good for singing and backup !

Jim Yates
@jim-yates
03/04/17 02:50:07PM
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I've Just Bought a BANJO !!!!


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Strumelia:

Bill- most oldtime fiddle tune banjo players I know, when playing for key of D, will either tune up to aDADE

 

which is referred to as 'double D tuning'. (the first lower case letter is the short fifth string)

 

OR, if they don't want to tune up that high they will tune to 'double C tuning' which is:  g, C, G, C, D

 

and then you can hook your fifth string up to 'a' and put a capo on the second fret for the other 4 strings.  That would bring you back up to double d tuning but with less cranking of the strings if starting from standard G tuning of gDGBD.

 

I usually just tune up to aDADE to play in D.

I really like this tuning when playing fiddle tunes too Strumelia, but when I'm singing folk songs in C or D and playing backup, I prefer drop C tuning gCGBD.  When I play this tuning in D, I like to start with open G, gDGBD, and capo the first three strings at the second fret and leave the 4th string open, capoing the thumb string to A.  This gives me aDAC#E, but I can use key of G shapes.

I use a capo for D rather than tuning up.  I'm a bit nervous about tuning up with the medium gauge strings I like to use.

 

Noah Aikens
@noah-aikens
03/04/17 02:08:23PM
33 posts

Single or Double Melody Strings?


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My Grandpa has a robert mize dulcimer with 4 strings but 6 notches so that equidistant stringing can be used.

Kusani
@kusani
03/04/17 10:07:26AM
134 posts

Single or Double Melody Strings?


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Thank you for all the responses.  Based on what has been said so far, I am going to build for 4 strings (double melody) option, but will be stringing for 3; unless otherwise requested. 

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
03/04/17 09:59:19AM
231 posts

Single or Double Melody Strings?


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I agree with Dan. With wood pegs I would definitely prefer three strings. I also find it easier to play with the three string set up. If I had a custom made dulcimer I would have it set for three strings. I can see Rob's point with the four equidistant. I've not tried that yet but plan to just to see what that is like. Although, I do prefer to play noter drone. Some may say the double melody is better for noter drone. Well, I have two responses for that. The old traditional dulcimers didn't have double melody strings and when doing the semi tones, going in between so to speak, it's easier to press down a single string with the noter than double. It's easier for me. I think you will find that personal preference is the deciding factor on this topic. 

Kathyb53
@kathyb53
03/04/17 09:56:30AM
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What songs were you taught in kindergarten/grade school?


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Oh, I loved music period in grade school! We sang Swing Low Sweet Chariot, She'll Be Coming 'Round the Mountain, my favorite Ol' Dan Tucker, I've Been Working on the Railroad, can't remember the title but the words were "make new friends but keep the old ones. One is silver and the other gold". My Bonny Lies Over the Ocean, West Virginia Hills, Tell Me Why, Red River Valley, Home on the Range, and of course, all the Christmas favorites!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/02/17 03:52:01PM
2,157 posts

Fine Tuner Beads -- a Primer Needed!


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Tuner beads DO work, even in a short area (depends on the size of the bead and angle of string slope.  Flat sided beads are best.  You can even carve tapered wedges similar to a reverse capo to fit between the bridge and the place where the string breaks over the end (or meets the pin).

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