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Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/16/15 04:08:03AM
96 posts

odd frets


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Rob N Lackey:
John Molineux!  It has a 1 1/2 only under the middle string; a 4 1/2 under the bass and middle strings, and a 5 1/2 under only the bass.  Note there is no 6 1/2.  Here's a link to to a solo video of John where you can see the frets plainly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgKHgiL-Sg`

Very usefull playing chord/melody style. It leaves the melody string diatonic, which is nice playing noter/drone style.


I also like the possum board using the transporting case.


The beater... There goes my free weekend ;-)


 

Tumbleweed
@tumbleweed
10/16/15 12:30:09AM
27 posts

Ban-Jammers


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

I may have to wait a bit longer.  Hubby just bought me a Fender bass guitar and we are taking a trip at the end of the month to see Mom-in-law in Ft Worth, Tx.  It may have to wait until we retire in a couple  of years because I will have to devote a lot of time playing it so I can get real good and take my tin cup out on tour to pay for it.  winker

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
10/15/15 07:48:55PM
420 posts

odd frets


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I use a beater I got from Jean & Lee Schilling's shop about 30 years ago.  I thought it was a noter when I bought it.  I later got a noter from them as well as many books and records.  Anyway...  here's a little thing I did with a beater a few years ago.  They can be quite fun.

http://fotmd.com/rob-n-lackey/uploaded_video/260/green-grow-the-laurel-lilacs

 

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/15/15 04:12:05PM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Don't forget the three ways to produce sound: the pick (I use a stiff one); the thumb (plucking down or slap: thump up and hit the snare with the first thumb knockel) and the fingertips of the index and middle finger. That's all at the right hand...


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Sheryl St. Clare
@sheryl-st-clare
10/15/15 12:45:10PM
259 posts

And here's a callus and there's a callus..


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I was at a workshop on Saturday and the instructor was handing out little patches of moleskin for our thumbs because some of the beginners didn't have callouses on their thumbs yet. That's not my problem; I may need bigger gloves to accommodate my callouses! Just kidding. 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/15/15 12:41:33PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Tumbleweed, I guess we'll be learning the bass at the same time.  If you've got any tips, pass them along.

 

Wout, I put on the tapewound strings yesterday and really love the sound.  The tone is wonderful, reminiscent of an upright bass fiddle.  Thanks so much for that suggestion!


updated by @dusty: 10/15/15 05:44:10PM
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/15/15 12:38:58PM
1,848 posts

And here's a callus and there's a callus..


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Kristi, try Liquid Skin or New Skin or any of those liquid bandaids.  They were actually intended to apply to your skin, which superglue was not, though it does work.  My cousin's cello teacher told him to use one of the liquid bandaids when his fingers couldn't go any more but he still wanted to practice. Plus, it's good stuff to keep around the house.

Jan Potts
@jan-potts
10/15/15 02:59:56AM
402 posts

Ban-Jammers


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

If you decide you want one, order now, as there is a waiting list of several months, minimum.

I'm sure that if you like the sound of a banjo, then you'd like to play the Banjammer!

Tumbleweed
@tumbleweed
10/15/15 01:21:18AM
27 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hubby = male species that messes up around the home and expects Wife = long suffering female species to clean it up.  But he's cute and has a job and loves me bunches so I will keep Hubby. happys

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/15/15 01:15:56AM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

:-)

Being a not native speaker I thought that Hubby was just a nice guy, buying a lot of things for every one. Reading the last post here I realised you mean 'husband' :D Or spouce or yokefellow or helpmate or old man...

BTW write the SpellCheck or another name of the spell controller: it doesn't recognise its own name. Never trust someone helping with how to spell who can't spell its own name, doh?


updated by @wout-blommers: 10/15/15 01:21:22AM
Tumbleweed
@tumbleweed
10/15/15 01:10:21AM
27 posts

Ban-Jammers


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Jan Potts:

"I always wanted to play the banjo, but discovered that it wasn't physically possible due to arthritis and other issues.  But I CAN lay the Ban-jammer on my lap and play it--so I get the ease of the dulcimer and the sound of a banjo--the best of both worlds!"

Hi Jan:  I have always wanted to learn the banjo too but have some hand issues like yours. I didn't think about it until you posted this.  I love the sound of a banjo and the ban-jammer is an awesome alternative.  Thanks for the thought.

TW

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/15/15 01:05:18AM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Not only the temp, but also the question: "Where are we in the song?"

Dusty, you are a guitar player already, which is the normal way to get to the bass. You are used to think in chords. The bass uses the chord indication in the score and the players' ears. The bass guitar and the double bass both have the same string setting as the 4 lower strings of the guitar (which is already the bass of the guitar family), only one octave lower. You have to know where the notes are on the neck and which notes are in each chord. Also the exceptions, like the blues, so don't start practising that, unless you have to play it already in an ensemble.

But most of all: PLAY in an ENSEMBLE! The only way learning to play the bass is playing together. In contrast to the guitar, a bass never plays alone.

Also, bass players are a certain type of people, at least, here in Europe: don't like to be in the spotlight, a practical sense of humor (watch out, ladies) and highly social people, on stage and in  the bar. And they can ignore the drummer of the band who's telling you have to be there at his/hers bass drum hit... No, that hit has to be there at YOUR bass note.

Happy time playing as much as you can :-)


updated by @wout-blommers: 10/15/15 01:10:48AM
Tumbleweed
@tumbleweed
10/15/15 01:02:23AM
27 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hi Dusty:

Funny you should post this because I just got a bass guitar this past Friday.  It is electric. Hubby bought it for me just because. I have small hands too and find using the pinkie isn't easy but I was told by a friend at my local GC that a strong pinkie is an asset much like the little pink line that pops up on these posts while I am typing because I couldn't remember how to spell "asset" The spell check is an asset.  However, I have been watching videos and have a few books on the Bass and mostly what is comfortable for a musician is basically ok.  

TW

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/14/15 09:18:22PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks, Bill.   Yeah, there is a reason the bass and drums are considered the rhythm section.  If I can just learn enough to play some decent tracks on tunes I record for myself I'll be happy.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/14/15 07:48:29PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks for the encouragement, James. Just in fiddling around and trying to get some blues bass riffs, I've found I'm using my pinky. But I'm going to slow down and find some online lessons since I don't want to develop any bad habits.

James Phillips
@james-phillips
10/14/15 05:04:11PM
87 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Dusty, for a while I played electric bass in our church praise band, with no experience other then that I had played acoustic guitar for 8 years prior.  I found I really only used my first and second fingers and sometimes the third but never the pinky.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/14/15 04:02:49PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Wout, I picked up a pack of the tapewound strings and am putting them on right now. There is definitely a loss of some volume, but I like the tone and the feel.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/14/15 02:49:29PM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

The reason can be you aren't playing with a pick, but with your fingers.

The same as an normal accoustic guitar with steel strings. To less to play with drums, but surely to hard when played with a dulcimer. I play the double bass. In pizzicato (plucked) it is also to low in volume to play against a violin, but when bowed... When I play practising in the ensemble (steel string guitar, clarinet, accodeon, violin, bass and percussion) I need an amplifer, but also playing the double bass pizzicato or a steel string ABG. Bowing the double bass means a constant input of energy into the string, so it is much louder. BUT... when tuned in perfect pitch with the other instruments, the bass will sound louder, much louder! The overtones of the louder instruments will emphase the bass volume. You will experence that when you are more secure in bass playing. And that's why the intonation of the frets are so important, or that's why bass players prefer a fretless bass like the double bass.

So buying a small amplifier is a good thing. A http://www.music-group.com/Categories/Behringer/Loudspeaker-Systems/Portable-Speakers/B205D/p/P0957 will do. You don't need that much power :-)


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Sheryl St. Clare
@sheryl-st-clare
10/14/15 12:35:19PM
259 posts

Possum board for a psaltery


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Very clever. Thanks for sharing!

 

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/14/15 11:36:13AM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks, Wout.  In the video the guy is playing a bass with frets, and the strings sound pretty good.  One question: what kind of volume do they have when you are not plugged in?  Is there any reason to think they would have less volume than steal strings?

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/14/15 10:33:57AM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Take a look at this video:

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/14/15 10:27:58AM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hi Dusty,

The nylon strings are called 'Tape Wound'. I don't know how they sound on a fretted bass, but on a fretless they sound great.

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
10/14/15 09:42:33AM
257 posts

Possum board for a psaltery


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Sheryl it attaches with a standard camera mount 1/4-20 screw. Very stable... Thanks Lexie, although leaning over the instrument could get tiring after a wile... Robert.


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Sheryl St. Clare
@sheryl-st-clare
10/14/15 08:16:51AM
259 posts

Possum board for a psaltery


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Good portable solution too Robert. How did you attach it to the tripod?

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/14/15 01:31:13AM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks for the advice, Wout.  

Since I don't really play bass (I can fake it since I play guitar, but my technique is really lacking) I can't tell how the action is. It seems pretty good, for the strings even up the fretboard are not too high. I haven't formally tested the intonation, but I think I would have noticed problem if it were obvious enough. 

It's good to know I might not have to use my pinky much, but my hands are not that large, so we'll have to see.  I've been working on strengthening my pinky for dulcimer and guitar playing, so it can't hurt to keep working on it.

In my initial post just below the picture I have a link to a review of 4 or 5 ABGs by a bass guitar website.  According to them, the only one that could really function in an acoustic setting without being amplified is the Boulder Creek.  So although you may be right that it seems louder to the player because of the soundhole on the top (Boulder Creek's "signature" design), it appears that it really is louder than most of the others. I think it is a bit bigger than the others, too, which might be part of the reason for the volume, though Boulder Creek tries to credit their bracing system.

I'll have to look into your suggestions on strings.  The Shop gave me a free set of phosphor bronze strings since the ones on there are a bit old, but I was planning on picking up some Elixir or other "squeakless" strings.  I'll have to experiment a bit. As I've said, this is all new territory to me.  Thanks again for the advice.

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
10/14/15 01:09:15AM
96 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Being a bass player I have 3 ABG's (1 frets, 2 fretless). In general, be carefull with fretted AGB's: be sure the intonation is right. Also an AGB shouldn't play heavy. If you have to push hard the action is to high. A good luthier can fix that. Also the strings are important. On the ABG I prerfer 'nylon' strings, which I like to call 'clothline' strings... Don't know the real name. On a fretless the sound is much more double bass like. Most AGB's use piëzo to amplify. When I need the snappy sound of steel strings and pick I prefer a solid body BG.

I wonder if the Boulder Creek is realy louder than other ABG's: it has a sound hole right into your face, but can the other musicians hear that as well?

Don't wory about your pinky, or you have to have rather small hands. Most bass lines I play need three fingers, mostly index and ring. If you realy need the pinky use the middle and ring on the same string to help the little one (double bass technique). But be sure the action is right!

BTW the AGB is the first step to a double bass :-)


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Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/13/15 09:20:52PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks, James.  My hope is to eventually develop some arrangements that include the dulcimer, guitar, and bass, and to record them all myself. I've got a ways to go, though.  My pinky is really weak and I get a lot of buzz when I fret with it.  It's going to be a while before I'll be able to play cleanly.

James Phillips
@james-phillips
10/13/15 09:06:18PM
87 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Neat. Have fun with it Dusty, and maybe post something with it when you feel up to it.

Randy Adams
@randy-adams
10/13/15 07:14:00PM
125 posts

Oddities hanging on your walls


OFF TOPIC discussions

Kristi Keller:
Re Milagro Beanfields War - it is part of a trilogy about the area. Favorite section for me is the informal rodeo description.It is actually a common activity in rural areas of New Mexico and Arizona.

Kristi...speaking of rodeo as a common activity. I'm in the construction biz and about 25 years ago Mexicans became the predominate workforce here in NE. Most of our guys come from a little town 'Agua del Medio, about 60 miles southeast of San Luis Potosi.....they're country boys f'sure.

So we got hired to pour concrete in the stalls and hallways of an existing horse barn....maybe 50 stalls or so. The guys picked up a rope hanging on the wall and could rope everything! The owner saw them and got them on horseback and they could do all the rodeo skills. I had a hard time getting the owner to let them get back to work!

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/13/15 04:54:22PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks, Ken.  It was a good deal for both of us. The shop wanted to make room for more instruments for the holiday season and is also gearing up to move to a nicer location (with a permanent theater for all those dulcimer concerts!).  I wanted an acoustic bass guitar but would never have spent the $1000 nono  Amazon lists.  

I can't wait to join some jams and give it a go.  Just playing around on it makes my fingers feel so weak, though. worried  I need to do some weight training for my fingers!muscle


updated by @dusty: 10/13/15 04:58:00PM
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
10/13/15 04:48:20PM
1,329 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

What a great deal Dusty. Must be a really nice music shop to give you such a good offer. Enjoy.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
10/13/15 04:27:33PM
1,848 posts

acoustic bass guitar


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Well, I've never really played bass before, but I have found myself in a few jams where we needed a bass, and I have visions (fantasies?) of making some recordings where I play multiple instruments  . . . so . . . I couldn't pass up the opportunity for a really nice price in this Boulder Creek acoustic bass guitar.  I had had my eye on it for some time at a local music store where my dulcimer club meets, and they were running a clearance sale to make some room for new stock. None of the acoustic basses were chosen for the sale, but I asked about this one and the owner agreed to sell it to me for 10 percent over his cost, which is way less than half of the price on Amazon and 40 percent lower than any price I could find anywhere.  When he threw in a slightly used case, I couldn't resist.  Now I've got to strengthen my fingers to be able to play the darn thing!

 

Bass Player website has a nice review of the instrument here . What I like most about it is that it is loud enough to be heard in an acoustic jam without being plugged in, but it has a pickup and pre-amp if I need to go electric.


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Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
10/13/15 02:52:51PM
229 posts

Possum board for a psaltery


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Good idea Robert. Looks like this will work well when you play your psaltry.

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
10/13/15 01:13:02PM
257 posts

Possum board for a psaltery


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Made this today out of Baltic birch plywood. Mounts on a camera tripod. Frees me up to play with two bows. Playing with two bows adds that much needed harmony we've become used to in our dulcimers. Not sure what to call it so I guess possum board will do for now... Robert.


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Maxspop
@bobby-maxspop-bingham
10/13/15 04:38:51AM
7 posts

Oddities hanging on your walls


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Thanks, C-T, for the info.  Nobody believes me when I tell'em it's a real jackalope!  Not even when I offer them some jackalope sausage!whistle

Maxspop
@bobby-maxspop-bingham
10/13/15 04:30:54AM
7 posts

Oddities hanging on your walls


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joe sanguinette:
i loved the "milagro beanfield war" filmed in and around taos new mexico.  spending a few days in the area should be on everyone's list

Yes, Joe, great movie!

Charles Thomas
@charles-thomas
10/12/15 09:07:39PM
77 posts

Oddities hanging on your walls


OFF TOPIC discussions

Dusty, your document is fascinating! It's amazing that it survived this long, I wonder how much digital content will be around in 200 years?

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