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Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/22/11 02:37:26PM
2,157 posts



Fingerpicking doesn't mean picking the string up from the slot. More like fingering them individually sideways. BTW, it's always a good idea to know what gauge strings you are using. You will break one (or need to replace them anyway in a couple months), and will need to know what gauge to buy to replace it with...

BethH
@beth-hansen
11/22/11 01:05:52PM
41 posts



I've only been playing for 6 months, and am just trying fingerpicking on a couple of songs right now. It's tricky business, but the sound is so lovely that I'm practicing on my technique. My teacher said to think more of brushing the strings with my fingertips rather than plucking them. That's helped, but it's taking some practice time.

Vanessa Lorentzen said:

Without a doubt...you have a good point here and I have noticed that fretting close to the fret is the way to get an excellent tone. Thanks for your input!

Beth Hansen-Buth said:

Is it only buzzing on the strings you are fretting? I get a little buzzing now and then, especially on my base string, but I think it's mainly poor fretting skills on my part. What I do is go back and replay things more slowly to figure out where it's happening and play with how I'm fretting until it sounds a little cleaner.

Strumelia
@strumelia
11/16/11 10:22:00PM
2,412 posts



i moved this thread to the "Instruments...problems and questions" Forum.

folkfan
@folkfan
11/16/11 09:10:30PM
357 posts



You mentioned strumming with too much authority, do the strings buzz only when you strum forcefully or all the time? Some times strings will buzz if the finger or pick lifts the string upwards from the fret board rather than moving side to side. This upward pull lets the string snap back down against the frets and can create a buzz. You need to adjust your angle of attack on the strings to a cross motion eliminating the lifting motion if this is the problem.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
11/16/11 09:02:33PM
2,157 posts



Are you sure that you're tuned to the right DAA or CGc, or whatever tuning and the strings are of the appropriate gauge for that tuning? It almost sounds as if your strings are not tight enough for the tuning.

What tuning are you using?

What string gauges do you have on there?

BethH
@beth-hansen
11/16/11 04:48:46PM
41 posts



Is it only buzzing on the strings you are fretting? I get a little buzzing now and then, especially on my base string, but I think it's mainly poor fretting skills on my part. What I do is go back and replay things more slowly to figure out where it's happening and play with how I'm fretting until it sounds a little cleaner.

Sue Simms
@sue-simms
07/24/12 12:34:10PM
29 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

i agree with this ! i have one myself and love it.

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
02/23/12 10:31:20AM
258 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Leslie, Do you have any Scotch tape? preferably the gift wrap type. After reading about your mom I applied scotch tape to a nickel harmonica cover and the tape in no way hindered my ability to play the instrument. My lips never touched the metal and the tape is invisible. I think its a workable idea. Yes there are chrome harmonicas as an option but if you still have any nickel harmonicas I would go with the tape... Bob.

Strumelia
@strumelia
11/07/11 12:50:34PM
2,412 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Bob I love this little story. I wish you could take a photo of your old box full of harmonicas and show it to us!

I have a couple of my harmonicas from 20 years ago, but sadly I think i lost my original two harmonicas I had as a teenagers, which would have been over 40 yrs old now. I always liked fooling around with harmonicas, but never got very good at it.

But I agree, it's always good to keep a little harmonica in your pocket- like carrying around a microscopic church organ!

I keep a set of rhythm bones and a limberjack in my instrument case when I go to music gatherings- like a harmonica they are very portable, and sometimes it's just the thing!

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
11/07/11 09:50:13AM
258 posts

My 40 year old box of harmonicas


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Back in the late 1960's I got my first introduction to playing music as a blues harmonica player. For myself it was an easy style of music to master but as I became better at playing guitar I put the harmonicas away in a shoebox never to be played again. In the last year I have spent much of my time learning old time Irish and British tunes on the whistle and this was a good time to pullout my old harmonica box and try what I learned on the tin whistle on harmonica. I was surprised by how many harmonicas I had and in so many keys. Its like opening up a time capsule. Everyone should own at least one harmonica. They fit in the smallest pocket and you can make music everywhere... Bob.
updated by @robert-schuler: 02/25/19 11:59:57PM
BethH
@beth-hansen
11/16/11 11:45:33AM
41 posts

New Timber Hill Butterfly dulcimer arrived today !


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

That is a really gorgeous instrument, I loved watching you play! You look like you are having a blast with your new dulcimer, which is as it should be. Congrats on your new friend.

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
11/03/11 06:37:10PM
239 posts

New Timber Hill Butterfly dulcimer arrived today !


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Hey Mary,

That's an increadible instrument - it sounds like a whole band

Great playing

John Keane
@john-keane
11/03/11 05:28:21PM
181 posts

New Timber Hill Butterfly dulcimer arrived today !


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Sounds great! Looks awesome (and really big)! The bass seems to speak out very nicely on the video.
Mary Z. Cox
@mary-z-cox
11/03/11 05:05:32PM
64 posts

New Timber Hill Butterfly dulcimer arrived today !


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

I just love it too! Here it is under the Meyer's lemon tree. The rumble is the wind--it is breezy and wonderful outside today. :)


updated by @mary-z-cox: 06/08/16 09:24:05PM
Randy Adams
@randy-adams
10/20/11 10:35:03PM
125 posts



Whit

I tune 4 strings A'EAe w/string gauges .032, .025, .016, .012. Or EAc#e w/.024, .016, .013, .011.

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
10/20/11 10:37:29AM
239 posts



Hi Whit,

From D,A,A simply raise the bass D to an E - giving E,A,A I use a reverse capo on some of my dulcimers which I just slide under the bass string next to the first fret. On other dulcimers, where I have a slightly lower gauge bass string my bass string will tune up the tone from D to E. E,A,A gives you all those mixolidian fiddle tunes (OJC, June Apple etc) and any ionian ones (Buffalo Gals, Cripple Creek) if you either have a 6+ or simply avoid using the 7th of the scale.

From D,A,d I again raise the bass D to an E (either re-tuning or with a reverse capo) giving E,A,d and can then play the A dorian tunes (Shady Grove, Elzic's Farewell, Cluck Old Hen, Cuckcoo, Frosty Morning etc). With a 6+ you can also work all the ionian and mixolidian tunes around this tuning aswell. So on 90% of modern standard dulcimers E,A,d will cover off everything the fiddlers play when they re-tune to A,E,A,E

I also use A,a,a and A,a,d depending on the sound I want.

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
10/20/11 06:10:24AM
239 posts



If you want to play chord/melody then a quick way to get to the key of A is to put a capo on fret 4. As long as your dulcimer has a 6+ fret then this will give you the A scale and the chord shapes you are used to from D,A,d. Additionally, by using the 6 rather than the 6+, you can play many Am fiddle tunes in this position.

Tuning your D,A,d 1-5-8 dulcimer to the key of A - keeping the same 1-5-8 string ratio - is a little more awkward. As Ken says, you will probably need to change your string gauges.

You can play in the key of A from D,A,d using 1-0-1 as your root chord A, open strings as the D chord and 1-1-1 as the E chord (3-3-3 for G on mixolidian tunes).It is a little awkward as it is the mixolidian scale that's under your fingers. But tunes like Old Joe Clark and June Apple that are usually played in the key of A mixolidian at old time sessions can be played using this approach.

If you play melody/drone or noter/drone then your options for getting to the key of A with a standard string set are greater than with chord/melody. I regularly (make that daily!!!!) play in the key of A because the list of fiddle tunes played in that key is endless! If you can't play in A major, A minor and A mixolidian then you will never cut it at any old time sessions!!!!!!!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
10/19/11 08:48:17PM
2,157 posts



Do you want a Mixolydian tuning (158) or Ionian tuning (155)? For a Mixo tuning you can tune down to A'EA, where the Melody string(s) are the same as the Middle drone when you're in DAd and the bass string is an octave lower. Or you could tune up to AEa, where the bass string is now the same as the A in DAd and the melody string is an octave higher than that. In either case I suspect you'll have to change string gauges as "normal" string sets around 12,12,20w probably won't go that high or lwo without breaking or flopping...
Ken Backer
@ken-backer
11/08/14 08:59:04AM
31 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Thanks, Stephen, for the info. It is such a pretty, haunting song. I have the "Song Catcher" DVD and just happened to watch it again a few days ago. I have been doing the song for some time using the dulcimer. I use a different, less clunky rythm than is heard in the movie.

Stephen Addison said:

The songwriter( of When the Mountains cry) has posted a lead sheet on his web page, its fairly easy to play from it - I've used this for banjo and dulcimer versions as well as guitar versions. Here is a link to David Mansfield's lead sheet. You can make it sound just like the movie - it's also easy to make it too pretty.

Ellen Rice said:

Any chance of the TAB being posted some place ?

Stephen Addison
@stephen-addison
11/07/14 10:22:32PM
9 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

The songwriter( of When the Mountains cry) has posted a lead sheet on his web page, its fairly easy to play from it - I've used this for banjo and dulcimer versions as well as guitar versions. Here is a link to David Mansfield's lead sheet. You can make it sound just like the movie - it's also easy to make it too pretty.

Ellen Rice said:

Any chance of the TAB being posted some place ?

John Keane
@john-keane
10/29/14 10:43:48PM
181 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

That's FOTMD member Michael Futreal of Twang Darkly (we share Shreveport, LA as home base). Great stuff!


Brian G. said:

I wouldn't call You are My Sunshine a bright and cheery song at all, especially when you consider the verses. This verse, for example, has a more melancholy feel:

"The other night, dear, as I lay sleeping
I dreamt I held you in my arms
When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken
So I hung my head, and I cried"

This one seems vaguely menacing:

"I'll always love you and make you happy
If you will only say the same
But if you leave me to love another,
You'll regret it all one day"

And this one is definitely sad:

"You told me once, dear
You really loved me
That no one else could come between.
But now you've left me
And love another,
You have shattered all my dreams."

Aura Waters said:

Just for fun, come see this guy's minor key YouTube version of "You Are My Sunshine " entitled "Not My Sunshine"

It really demonstrates what a minor key can do to an otherwise bright and cheery song!

Brian G.
@brian-g
10/29/14 10:10:48PM
94 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I wouldn't call You are My Sunshine a bright and cheery song at all, especially when you consider the verses. This verse, for example, has a more melancholy feel:

"The other night, dear, as I lay sleeping
I dreamt I held you in my arms
When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken
So I hung my head, and I cried"

This one seems vaguely menacing:

"I'll always love you and make you happy
If you will only say the same
But if you leave me to love another,
You'll regret it all one day"

And this one is definitely sad:

"You told me once, dear
You really loved me
That no one else could come between.
But now you've left me
And love another,
You have shattered all my dreams."

Aura Waters said:

Just for fun, come see this guy's minor key YouTube version of "You Are My Sunshine " entitled "Not My Sunshine"

It really demonstrates what a minor key can do to an otherwise bright and cheery song!

Ken Backer
@ken-backer
10/15/14 07:29:59PM
31 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

The funeral song from the movie "The Song Catcher" (When the Mountains Cry). It is one of the most simple, haunting songs I have ever heard. I sing and play a version of the it on the dulcimer.

William Mann
@william-mann
10/15/14 05:29:49PM
22 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Under "plaintive" more than the other choices: two hymns (I think both are from the shaped-note tradition) chorded in B minor in DAA tuning: "Wayfaring Stranger" and "What Wondrous Love Is This."

Minor keys have an unfinished quality about them, with something in them begging to be resolved. This is a perfect match to "Wayfaring Stranger," a story of a spiritual pilgrim waiting for his unsatisfying and unfinished life to be resolved by entrance into the heavenly Kingdom. "Wondrous Love," likewise, presents an unfinished story. It is a Lenten hymn which reflects upon what Christ's love for us cost Him, while awaiting the not-yet-achieved joy of Easter. These two songs, with their anxious, "not-quite-yet" quality, illustrate why people started composing in minor keys in the first place.

Flint Hill
@flint-hill
10/14/14 11:16:55PM
62 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I really love this thread.

This might be a good place to mention "Creepalachian" music. It's contemporary, alternative Appalachian music, typically dark, moody and minor. Tom House's "Someone's Digging in the Underground" is a good dulcimable example. Except for the electric rhythm guitar, it could be something Alan Lomax recorded.

There's a badly recorded version HERE or get the studio track from Amazon for a buck.Scroll way down for the lyrics HERE .

I think of Tom House as reporting from Appalachian darkside in the amphetamine age. It ain't sweet, spiritual stuff, be advised.

See also Freakwater, another group in this genre.

robert schuler
@robert-schuler
10/14/14 10:14:50PM
258 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Did anyone mention Omie Wise. Another might be Old True Lovers by Edden Hammond. Or The Carpenters Wife... Actually anything played on the banjo in sawmill tuning... Bob
updated by @robert-schuler: 07/04/15 01:45:05PM
john p
@john-p
10/14/14 09:59:07PM
173 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I've always thought that 'My Dearest Dear' was very sad. I'ts one of those songs that won't go away and I have several tunes to it now.

Cynthia Wigington
@cynthia-wigington
10/14/14 09:19:07AM
74 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

These are to lovely Guy. Watching your fingers in the first one was like watching ballet.

Jan Potts
@jan-potts
10/14/14 02:25:02AM
403 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

A similar idea, but no, the one I'm looking for is definitely "October is a Gypsy Lass". I've found it in a couple spots online, but no one ever says who wrote it...either the words or the music.

Ellen Rice
@ellen-rice
10/14/14 01:52:32AM
49 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Could it be this:

October is a gypsy queen
In dress of red and gold.
She sleeps beneath the silver moon
When nights are crisp and cold.
The meadows flame with color now,
which once were cool and green.
Wild asters and the goldenrod
Bow low to greet their queen.
When she is tripping through the wood
With song so clear and sweet,
The autumn leaves come sifting down
And rustle 'neath her feet.
Winifred C. Marshall

Jan Potts
@jan-potts
10/14/14 01:14:37AM
403 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

One of my fall favorites is "October is a Gypsy Lass" which was published in some magazine for children in the mid-late 50's. I have no idea who wrote it, but my sisters remember all the words and we've always remembered the tune, which can be sung spritelyor slowly and spookily--I like it both ways. If anyone could ever find the info on this, I would be forever grateful. I would also, of course, like to know if it is copyrighted!

Ginney Camden
@ginney-camden
10/13/14 09:53:59AM
4 posts

What's your favorite mournful, spooky, or lonesome song to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

This tune is not haunted or scary...but I think In the Bleak Midwinter is a mournful tune. I love to play it.

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