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Strumelia
@strumelia
01/02/16 03:06:15PM
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recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Yes please, let's not jump into the mode quicksand again...staying on the thread capo topic.  :)

Maria, I too think you made a good choice with the Ewing. My old Ewing dulcimer capo far outlasted a later plastic cheaper one I bought.  thumbsup

Capos can definitely be handy in various playing situations.  Some folks use them regularly, and others don't use them.  To each their own!   hi5


updated by @strumelia: 01/02/16 03:09:44PM
Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
01/02/16 02:59:46PM
96 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

robert schuler:
Kitchen Girl is a fiddle tune that could be called mixodorian. Since one part is mixolydian and the other is dorian... Mixing modes is like mixing paint. Leave it to the listener to decide... Robert

I asume you cut them in half and swith the end part? You are kidding me? Both end the same, so starting Mixolydian STAYS Mixolydian (same end as Dorian). :D The same goes likewise for the Dorian. You can't connect starts or ends... These will not create an octave.

I looked at Kitchen Girl, but the modes can be described as Mixolydian and the second part as Aeolean, but it is just a modelation in the song itself, not in the mode or scale!

Why end so many fiddle songs on the fifth? Mostly because they are follwed by another song in D or something like that, it's not a coda...

Modes makes theory difficult, simple because we don't think in modes anymore. Mostly just major and minor. I believe modes are an immigration feature, but we need another discussion about that, not in the capo pages.

 

marg
@marg
01/02/16 02:50:54PM
624 posts

Leo Rodder, KY dulcimer


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Thanks Ken, I am on the hunt for a W. May but was just checking info. on Leo since never hear of him. I wish I had time to go to W. May's shop, would love to check them all out. What a treat that would be.

 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/02/16 02:32:34PM
2,157 posts

Leo Rodder, KY dulcimer


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

marg -- I would look for Warren May instruments for sale here and at EverythingDulcimer.com.  There are a zillion MD builders in Kentucky who build a few every year.  I've not heard of Leo Rodder, so I can't say anything one way or the other.

 

marg
@marg
01/02/16 12:45:33PM
624 posts

Leo Rodder, KY dulcimer


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Does anyone know anything about Leo rodder, he is a KY dulcimer builder? I am going to Louisville middle of Jan. and wanted to find a used Warren May dulcimer and came across this one. Still on the hunt for one of W. May's if anyone knows where in the Louisville area I should check.

Thanks,

marg.   


updated by @marg: 06/08/16 09:24:05PM
robert schuler
@robert-schuler
01/02/16 11:31:59AM
258 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Kitchen Girl is a fiddle tune that could be called mixodorian. Since one part is mixolydian and the other is dorian... Mixing modes is like mixing paint. Leave it to the listener to decide... Robert

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
01/02/16 11:09:32AM
96 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I know it is folk music, because I play in my folk band (#194 in the repertoire). It is not special Turkish; could be Pakistan or even India... We simple don't know. But to call it modified Phrygian? There is a name to that scale: gypsy (BTW it isn't a mode!). But that doesn't make it Phrygian, which I asked: show me a Phrygian song :-)

There are a lot song going around which are called Mixolydian and don't have that 6th in it...

Still, in dulcimer land the players like it difficult. And it is such a simple instrument.


updated by @wout-blommers: 01/02/16 11:10:49AM
Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
01/02/16 10:39:34AM
96 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Misirlou isn't copyrighted :-) In fact the melody is traditional as traditional can be!

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
01/02/16 10:36:49AM
96 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Funny...

I add the score of Misirlou how I play it in my band, although transposed to E, which means only white keys in Phrygian mode. There shouldn't be accidentals... There are. There is an interval f-g#, which is special to the gypsy scale, in fact, Misirlou is in gypsy scale... Not Phrygian at all.


Misirlou E.pdf - 37KB
robert schuler
@robert-schuler
01/02/16 10:17:58AM
258 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Robin. Misirlou is copyrighted... Except for my little movable nut pictured above, I've managed to get through the last 45 years without a capo... There are ways... Robert....

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
01/02/16 09:54:12AM
96 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

robinjohnson:
"They are a disaster on a diatonic due to its inflexible nature." No! They are extremely useful on a diatonic dulcimer, because they let you play in different modes. I couldn't play about half my repertoire without my capo.

Please, show me a Locrian tune or Phrychian one. (better notes on paper than a youtube link) 

 

Wout Blommers
@wout-blommers
01/02/16 09:39:53AM
96 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Why do dulcimer players make theory so complicated? The risc of making mistakes is always there... So don't read this when you are not familiar with musical theory and want to avoid a head age...

A capo offers you the possibility to use the same left hand position, special the grip of a chord, at another place of the fretboard which means to play in another key. Capo's are handy on a chromatic fretboard. On a chromatic fretboard it can avoid barré chord grips. They are a disaster on a diatonic due to its inflexible nature.

Playing chords or chord/melody style in D without capo becomes G when the capo is placed on the 3 fret (don't use the 6+; it will show the disaster...)

Ken, placing the capo on the second fret changes DAd into F#C#f#, or do you mean the 1+ fret? The mode becomes Phrychian using the 6+ and Locrian when using the 6 fret) Tuning a string is changing the tension of it, so is bending. The capo is changing the VSL or length of the string usualy known as stopping. It's a the same as a barré chord grip.


updated by @wout-blommers: 01/02/16 09:42:10AM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/02/16 06:52:34AM
2,157 posts

recommendation on a capo for the dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

A capo lets you change the tuning of all the strings simultaneously. 

For example, if you are tuned DAd and put the capo just left of the second fret, your strings are now tuned FCf, and the capo'd fret becomes the nut or Open fret for the new scale you've created.  The new scale will not be the usual Mixolydian scale because the sequence of wide and narrow intervals between the frets has changed.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
01/02/16 01:49:18AM
1,872 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Happy New Year to all my friends here.  My wish for each of you is whatever you wish for yourselves.  

Lexie R Oakley
@lexie-r-oakley
01/01/16 08:07:37PM
229 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Happy New Year My Friends!

I will pop in occasionally this month. I have been staying at my Mom's during her hip surgery and recovery. It is closer to go to the facility to see her and an easier drive. Mom is doing her best to get up on her feet, she has some troubles still but is doing a little better each week.

I am always happy to see and hear from you all; Wishing you all a prosperous New Year.

Blessings to each of you. I have missed you! grphug

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
01/01/16 07:24:07PM
1,355 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Happy New Year friends.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
01/01/16 01:26:18PM
239 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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I got to spend New Year's Eve with a few friends in a cabin up in the woods a few miles above our village.  A lovely place to see in 2016 !!!!

Happy New Year to you all HUG

Jim Yates
@jim-yates
01/01/16 12:09:23PM
68 posts



The guitar was my first instrument, circa 1960.
Since we had only one guitar for a short while, my brother and I both learned mouth harp to play some Sonny & Brownie tunes
I bought my first mandolin in the mid sixties.
I built a dulcimer in the early seventies and bought a better one at a yard sale in the early eighties.
I quit smoking 40 years ago and put the money aside.  I used it to buy my first five string banjo.
I learned to play Autoharp on one that belonged to the school where I taught and bought a few of my own later.
I also play tenor banjo.
I have played at piano accordion, button accordion and English concertina, but have neglected them lately.
My newest instruments are the Filipino banduria, The ukulele and the tiple.

My wife says, "The concept of enough hasn't gotten through to Jim."
I'd probably be a much better guitarist if I'd stuck to it only.


updated by @jim-yates: 01/01/16 12:10:47PM
Guy Babusek
@guy-babusek
01/01/16 11:12:32AM
96 posts

Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Mine was an old Ruggs and Jackel Folkroots that someone didn't want anymore and they gave to me. I played it for about 10 years, and then donated it to an organization who uses dulcimers in their music therapy programs for rehabilitative purposes. It had such a BIG voice!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/01/16 11:00:21AM
2,157 posts

Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Kerry was a real Lady.  I knew her pretty well.  She'd come over to Prescott and Phoenix a couple times a year during the years I lived there (2000-2003) and we'd jam.  Fabulous player, beautiful voice.  I miss her a lot.

 

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
01/01/16 10:56:53AM
2,157 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Happy New Year!   Went for our Polar Bear Splash this morning.... the pool was 89F!!

 

Sam
@sam
01/01/16 05:03:29AM
169 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Happy New Year fotmd. God bless us every one. 

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
01/01/16 12:00:37AM
215 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Indeed.........Happy New Year to all!

Strumelia
@strumelia
12/31/15 11:46:29PM
2,420 posts

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Yay!  happy new year to all friends here...  dancetomato   grphug

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
12/31/15 10:45:47PM
453 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Here comes 2016 -- a brand new year, with no mistakes... yet!

Happy New Year to one and all.

 

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
12/31/15 10:26:31PM
215 posts

Tell us about your VERY FIRST dulcimer


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

The first dulcimer I owned was built by Kerry Coates, Gila Mountain Dulcimers.  I either emailed her or called, I can't remember and we decided on the shape, wood and design.  I had her paint two Carolina parakeets, Ike and Izzy, the last two in existence from a painting I found of them.........she did a magnificent job, using the sound holes as wings........perfect.  Kerry stopped building shortly thereafter.  She told me that she was having health problems that she thought were related to the materials she used, so she was going to stop and get back to playing, as she put it, "the darn thing."   We more or less stayed in touch for a few years since she was a great teacher and helped me learn to play that great dulcimer she built.  Sadly, Kerry passed on April 29, 2014 after a heroic struggle.........now that dulcimer sits in a corner of my office out here in the forest........a treasure built my a master craftsman and grand musician...I play it every now and again and always remember her wit and creativity.........that dulcimer has the sweetest ring of any I own and I hope will bring my grandchildren the same pleasantries it brought me.  When they are a bit older I will tell them the story of the last two Carolina parakeets and about the artistry of a lady who was an artist in the truest sense of the word.

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
12/31/15 09:46:57PM
231 posts

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL FOMTD MEMBERS!


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Happy New Year to all my FOTMD friends. You all are special!!!

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
12/31/15 09:00:16PM
420 posts

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Hope everyone's New Year is better than you thought it might be!

 

Jim Fawcett
@jim-fawcett
12/31/15 07:31:08PM
85 posts

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Staying home tonight with my son and the girls. Not sure they will make it to see the ball drop, we shall see. Having a great time with movie night.

Hope everyone has a very Happy and Blessed New Year.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
12/31/15 03:41:29PM
1,568 posts

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Thank you, dear Strumelia!  I hope those same wishes are met for you throughout the coming year. sing comfort

Strumelia
@strumelia
12/31/15 02:35:23PM
2,420 posts

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Here's hoping all members have a safe, healthy, and productive new year for 2016...full of personal joys like music and also the joy of kindnesses to others.

Happy New Year!!!!


happynewyear.jpg

 


updated by @strumelia: 12/23/23 10:01:30PM
Guy Babusek
@guy-babusek
12/31/15 02:18:38PM
96 posts



Another option is a Jerry Rockwell dulcimer.  This one has a lovely warm tone as well, which may be what you are looking for. It's not really all that deep of a body either. I still own this one, but it doesn't get the attention it deserves:

 


updated by @guy-babusek: 12/31/15 07:37:47PM
Guy Babusek
@guy-babusek
12/31/15 02:08:57PM
96 posts



I owned a Ewing dulcimer, which had a lovely warm sound. I sold it, since I was pretty much only playing my Aeolus, but I think it's one of the nicest sounding of the mid-range priced dulcimers I have played.  I have a couple videos of me playing it here, that may be close to the sound you are looking for. It's not very large or deep body, but is till a lovely warm sound.:


updated by @guy-babusek: 12/31/15 07:38:37PM
dulcinina
@dulcinina
12/31/15 08:26:12AM
88 posts



Thank you Dusty and Annie for your input.  Sorry I piggy-backed on the string discussion.  I realized my error after I posted.  Warren May's studio is in Berea and I plan to visit soon.  I thought he might be out of my price range but since I have such a great resource so close I'm definitely going to check it out.

 

Dusty, you gave me lots to consider and I appreciate the details.  After reading your response I've decided my "scrunching" problem is due to instrument position. I do use my thumb a lot and some pinky.  I've tried angling the dulcimer as in your video with little success in the past.  As I said, the action on my dulcimer is high and I really have to press hard to get the note/sound.  I am able to play my instructor's dulcimer with much more ease. 

The search is on.  What fun. Nina

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
12/31/15 07:05:48AM
2,157 posts



Jane -- Warren May is an individual.  Here's his website:

http://www.warrenamay.com/dulcimers/

Warren does not build anything he calls a baritone, but his "wide hourglass" and "hourdrop" models certainly have the warm, rich characteristics we've been discussing and are designed for conventional D tunings. 

To be honest, I don't think you need a baritone dulcimer.   Baritone dulcimers do not usually come set up for conventional DAd, DAA tunings, but rather deeper -- AEa or AEE -- they need different strings to be tuned conventionally.    I think you need a conventional dulcimer that is a bit wider and deeper than most.  I think the only way you're going to find the instrument to suit you is to play as many different makes and models as you can find.

Estes George
@george-desjardins
12/30/15 08:28:39PM
92 posts



I find that it's not really the strings but the dulcimer itself that either does, or doesn't give you the warm mellow sound, the type of wood also plays into it in a big way, such as comparing Cherry to Walnut or red cedar. tuning is the next big one, for me personally anyway, I find the CGC tuning to be very warm mellow sound, but have also found it doesn't always "work" on all dulcimers, it really depends on the personality and voice of each individual dulcimer.

 I just picked up a couple Warren Mays, and find that they overall have a very mellow voice.

 I'll be posting a new forum at some point highlighting the Warren Mays, I got a lot of great feedback from folks here at FOTMD about Warrens dulcimers, and I'm not disappointed in the least, some of my favorites to play, and they handle the CGC tuning like a champ!!!

Annie Deeley
@annie-deeley
12/30/15 05:28:03PM
49 posts



Dulcinina, doesn't Warren May build dulcimers in Berea? Might be huge fun to try his out, or maybe you have already. Wish I could!

Peter W.
@peter-w
12/30/15 02:08:53PM
48 posts

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