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Mike, don't waste your time with Roosebecks. They are foreign made and of questionable quality.

Randy, I believe it's not an alternate bridge per se, but the way the bridge is aligned on the dulcimer. A tuning with an octave spread requires a slight change in angle in the placement of the bridge so that the bass string (which of course is thicker) is in tune with the much thinner high string. This change is significant from a tuning such as DAA to DAd.

Randy Adams said:

McSpadden would send along the alternate bridge for a couple of bucks?

McSpadden would send along the alternate bridge for a couple of bucks?

I fully agree with Robin. A Ginger in Gdgg is a GOOD thing. A Ginger in DAd is an OK thing. Having two dulcimers set up in two different keys -- D and G is an even better thing.

For playing solo in high noise backgrounds, nothing punches through crowd murmur better than a dulcimer in G. I play in G for open mic nights every week.

When I'm with a bunch of other dulcimers players, especially those not experienced at re-tuning out of DAd, I'll chose one of my other dulcimers tuned to the key of D.

DAd and Gdg both use the same tab. There are many other tunings, of course. I spent decades playing in DAA/CGG, but lately have come to appreciate the Bagpipe tunings Ddd, Ccc, Ggg.

Thanks for your response. Everything everyone suggests helps inform my choice

Hi Monica,

The Ginger is generally offered in two different set-ups by McSpadden, which are Dadd or Gdgg (4 tones higher). I don't want to complicate matters for you too much but it could be this difference that Jim Woods is talking about. The dulcimers requires completely different strings and bridge compensation for each of these tunings.

Most folks buy the Ginger in Gdgg tuning as the short scale suits having the instrument pitch up higher - it is very sweet in this tuning and packs quite a punch for its size (in the same way a that mandolin can be heard above a guitar). The key of G is also very useful when sitting in with guitar players as many popular tunes are generally played in that key or can bemoved to that key on guitar. Luckily for us dulcimer players the tuning Gdgghas the same intervals between the strings as Dadd - so we can playany DAdd TAB and it will work (but be in the key of G rather than D).

A number of folks do have their Ginger set up for DAdd so they have a smaller travel dulcimer in the key of D. This requires thicker strings for the instrument. However tuning down to DAAA would require thicker melody strings again as, due to the shorter length, the melody strings are not as flexible to different tunings as they are on a longer scale instrument. So if you wanted DAAA on a Ginger dulcimer you would need a different melodystring pairthan for DAdd or be prepared to compromise on playability.

I would think that it is for these reasons that Jim Woods strongly suggesting you think about which tuning you want to work with as he will have to use a different set up for each one.

The Ginger is a lovely instrument and I have one that I take on trips. I keep it in Gdgg as, for me, the higher pitchsonically suitsthe shorter scale and smaller body. And it is handy to have a dulcimer in high G when sitting around a campfire on holiday with other musicians knocking out pop songs

Hi Monica,

As I'm sure you know, many folks are using DAd as their "usual" tuning these days, and much TAB is written for that tuning. If you expect to rely on TAB to get you started on tunes, then it would make sense to go with DAd and have the compensation set for that. It is a tuning that is very well suited for Celtic music. If you already have a dulcimer, you could leave that instrument in another tuning that you use - perhaps one that is the most different from DAd, such as DAA.

I'm not sure what you mean by "more complicated tunes." One can play very complex music out of a DAd tuning. Can you elaborate?

Linda

www.cabinhillmusic.com

Thanks for your reply Bob, Jim from Mcspadden strongly suggested I do, so I am wondering what to go with.

You're right about the 'A' string, I am constantly having to tune it

I really enjoy reading through this forum and learning more about this sweet instrument.

I am considering purchasing a small dulcimer. I wish I could hear a sample of a Clemmer tennessee sweetie Church style. In the mean time there many people playing Mcspadden Gingers. So I might just go with that. As a Novice I do play mostly in Dadd, but as I try out new pieces I am continually tuning it back forth and I haven't quite mastered the capo yet.

I am not sure what tuning I should go with as my repertoire is still quite small but I hope to be able to play more complicated songs over time i.e..traditional, celtic and medieval music. Any suggestions for which bridge compensation is the most ideal would be gladly welcome

Thanks heaps!!!!!

Strumelia said:

Hi all,

You know, I hadn't been aware of this thread until just now, and I did not realize that we have over 50 members on FOTMD from Australia- but I saw that after reading this thread just now and doing an 'advanced' search by country as Mark suggested above. I now see that there are many more Aussie members than I thought, and that you are indeed having a hard time connecting effectively.

Anne did ask me yesterday about having a new Aussie group, and I decided against it, since I am very reluctant to add more new Groups over time.

But you know what? I now think that wasn't the best decision and I can see a real need for this here. I'm changing my mind.

Let me go ahead now and create the new Australia Group for you all, and you can all join up there and dive in.

You are a sweet lady Lisa, I am happy our Australian Friends have a group of their own. I hope that they will have a great time connecting.

Strumelia said:

Hi all,

You know, I hadn't been aware of this thread until just now, and I did not realize that we have over 50 members on FOTMD from Australia- but I saw that after reading this thread just now and doing an 'advanced' search by country as Mark suggested above. I now see that there are many more Aussie members than I thought, and that you are indeed having a hard time connecting effectively.

Anne did ask me yesterday about having a new Aussie group, and I decided against it, since I am very reluctant to add more new Groups over time.

But you know what? I now think that wasn't the best decision and I can see a real need for this here. I'm changing my mind.

Let me go ahead now and create the new Australia Group for you all, and you can all join up there and dive in.

Hi all,

You know, I hadn't been aware of this thread until just now, and I did not realize that we have over 50 members on FOTMD from Australia- but I saw that after reading this thread just now and doing an 'advanced' search by country as Mark suggested above. I now see that there are many more Aussie members than I thought, and that you are indeed having a hard time connecting effectively.

Anne did ask me yesterday about having a new Aussie group, and I decided against it, since I am very reluctant to add more new Groups over time.

But you know what? I now think that wasn't the best decision and I can see a real need for this here. I'm changing my mind.

Let me go ahead now and create the new Australia Group for you all, and you can all join up there and dive in.

I asked Strumella about an Aussie interest group, but, as there are over 60 other interest groups already, she suggested we just keep it at the forum/discussion level for now. I guess if enough people post often enough we may be able to think abut a group...

Hi Julian,

There seem to be a few of us don't there. Thanks for the email address, but I do think it would be good if we could have an Aussie players group on FOTMD so we could chat in the same time zone .... Do you know of Richard Troughear's dulcimers? I'll be seeing him on Friday, as he's visiting someone here in the Blue Mountains, and he'll have some instruments with him ... Looking forward to seeing him..

Mark Brothers said:

To get all the Australian members you have to use the advanced search and select Australia from the drop down list under the heading country. As you observed doing it any other way gives quite variable results.

A group is the way to go if possible.

Well, that way of doing the search worked, so thanks Mark....only still no Richard. I think a group would be nice too.

Ken Hulme said:

Mark - as Lexie pointed out in her response above, go to the Members section on the blue line at the top of the page. Then enter Australia in the Search box.

I know of at least one other Aussie here -- Richard Troughear, who mostly posts on Everything Dulcimers, and who has become moderately famous for his scientific experimental approach to dulcimer building.

There was also a man a couple years back, whom we helped talk through his first dulcimer build. If memory serves he is/was from Tasmania.

And don't forget Helen Seiler from Creswick, Victoria who posts here very frequently.

Hi Ken,

Helen welcomed me when I first joined, but it's interesting that her name doesn't appear when I type Australia in the members' Search box , or even a Victoria entry in the members' Advanced Search box. I also typed in Richard Troughear and got " Sorry, no members matching your search were found" ..

If I type in Australia, only 6 names appear, typing in Queensland gives me 8,Victoria gives me 12, NSW gives me 9 - hence my initial question. I do think an Aussie Group would be nice ...

Mark - as Lexie pointed out in her response above, go to the Members section on the blue line at the top of the page. Then enter Australia in the Search box.

I know of at least one other Aussie here -- Richard Troughear, who mostly posts on Everything Dulcimers, and who has become moderately famous for his scientific experimental approach to dulcimer building.

There was also a man a couple years back, whom we helped talk through his first dulcimer build. If memory serves he is/was from Tasmania.

And don't forget Helen Seiler from Creswick, Victoria who posts here very frequently.

Well, I was wondering about that, which is why I started this discussion.

Have you had a look at dulcimerschool.com, with Stephen Seifert? I enrolled, and it has quite a lot of good stuff. I'm also looking at dulcimercrossing.com, although I haven't enrolled in that one...

Anne

Hey Peter,

Thanks for replying. Where are you?

Anne

Hi Anne, I know how it feels to be far away from the dulci groups, that's why we have this fabulous site, so we can connect and learn together.

Anne Bowman said:

Hay LLexie,

Well, there are quite a few other Aussies, but we're quite a distance from one another ...

Hay LLexie,

Well, there are quite a few other Aussies, but we're quite a distance from one another ...

If you want to connect with folks from Australia, go to member page and in the search box type in "Australia" and this should show you members from that country.

Have fun struming those sweet sounds and hope you can connect to some great folks.

Hi all,

I was just wondering how many other Aussies there are in FOTMD ....

Cheers,

Anne

Chuck - Drop your middle string a tone (DGd) and try the original fret order I gave you.

The tune is Ionian as far as I can tell. DAd is a mixalydian tuning and won't sound so good with that FO.

Try Bob's suggestion of Ddd, or A'AA if you want something lower.

Hi Chuck,

The fret order I gave you is for melody string only and needs to be played up the fretboard to stop yourself dropping off the bottom end.

You can take it down an octave by subtracting 7 from the FO, but you'll need to borrow a couple of notes off the bass string,
6 => 3 on the bass.
5 => 2 on the bass.

What tuning are you using ???
As with the whistle, the FO doesn't change, it's the tuning that determines the key.

If you've got yourself cast in DAd you'll need a 6+, in this case reduce the FO by 3. (9 => 6+)

Hi Chuck,

The song was written by Dick Farrelly in 1950 - EMI hold the copyright which is why your having trouble finding a simple score for it. The film was 'The Quite Man'I have it on DVD

The tune has some accidentals which is why it is difficult on dulcimer.

You'll hear some refrains of the tune from the film score here

Describe 'trouble' and what is the key of the whistle.

Edit: If you half hole on the whistle you may need to 'bend' a note on the MD.

Hi Chuck,

Not sure which tune you're referring to here.

'The LAKE Isle of Innisfree' is a poem by W B Yates, though I've not heard it sung.

'The Isle of Innisfree' is an American popular song that I know from some old John Wayne film. Is this the one you want?

It's Ionian and goes something along the lines of :

7 10 11 12 10 7 5 10 9 9 8
11 10 9 8 7 8 7 6 5
7 10 11 12 12 12 12 11 10 13 8
11 10 9 7 6 7 9 11 10

D tuning would be DAA

G tuning would be DGd

Hope that's enough to get you going.

Joe seems that all great craftsman want to talk to their custumers and build them a great instrument, this has been my experience.

I am not familiar with this luthier, but what a nice article about him.

Do you like the sound of your dulcimer? I am glad you were able to talk to the builder.

Thanks Strumelia, I stumbled upon it last night.
Strumelia said:

At the moment I don't even no where to begin with finger picking. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Monica, do join the Finger Picking Group on this site, and get all kinds of awesome help in beginning finger picking!