Forum Activity for @gregg-schneeman

Gregg Schneeman
@gregg-schneeman
09/08/14 11:40:06AM
25 posts

Eppinette, Scheitholt, and Kantle player "Orange Kantele"


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

On You Tube one of my favorite people calls himself Orange Kantele. His playlists show he plays the Eppinette and Scheitholt versions of the Dulcimer and is constantly coming up with new tunes with very strange titles and beautiful drawings illustrating the melodies. I'm very impressed with how he is helping to keep an entire musical tradition alive. He also plays Kanteles and electronic music he writes himself, truly an amazing musician. But what surprises me the most is how few viewers he gets! I recently told him he should join up here on FOTMD and he said he'd look you folks up but I'm encouraging you folks to check out his work.


updated by @gregg-schneeman: 10/27/19 12:02:25PM
robert schuler
@robert-schuler
09/08/14 02:11:58PM
257 posts



Search Appalachian music. The bounty is endless... Bob.
Strumelia
@strumelia
09/08/14 02:04:24PM
2,404 posts



Those are great suggestions, John Henry.

John Henry
@john-henry
09/08/14 11:56:18AM
258 posts



Hello Juliana ! I'm not American, so do not claim to be any sort of expert on the matter, (tho' my Grandchildren reckon I look like a man of the mountains !) but here offer a selection of sources that please me, they offer just a taste of the things you seem to be looking for ?

The Dulcimer Book Jean Ritchie

Songs and Tunes of the Wilderness Ralph Lee Smith and Madeline Macneil

FolKSongs of Old Kentucky Ralph Lee Smith and Madeline MacNeil

Folk Songs of Old Virginia Ralph Lee Smith and Madeline MacNeil

Galex Dulcimer Phyllis Gaskins

I am sure that you will have many more suggestions from others better placed to offer them !

good luck

JohnH

Paul Certo
@paul-certo
09/11/14 11:53:08PM
242 posts



When you capo a guitar or banjo, the chromatic fret pattern lets you keep all the same fingerings, just changing the key. On a dulcimer, the mode as well as the key changes, unless you have a chromatic dulcimer. The capo is useful, but we do have to remember that the mode changes at each fret. Three of the modes are major, four are minor. This means when the guitarist capoes at the first fret and his D chord or scale become Eb, our DAd dulcimer capoed at the first fret gives us E dorian, a minor scale. To match the guitarist's Eb, we need to re tune. The capo has it's uses, we just can't always match positions with other instruments.

Susie
@susie
09/09/14 04:42:14PM
516 posts



I have one of these. Same concept, but a little less expensive. Works great.

http://elderly.com/accessories/items/WDC1.htm

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
09/08/14 01:11:27PM
1,851 posts



Charles, a guitar capo will not work on a mountain dulcimer since there is no neck involved.

I have both one of those brass clamp-on capos that Bryon points to and the more traditional capos such as those Ron Ewing invented and still sells for about $20 . The more expensive brass model does not actually work any better except for the fact that it is a little quicker, so if you are in multi-instrument jams where people switch from key to key really quickly, they can be helpful. But you can get pretty fast with the Ron Ewing design as well.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/08/14 08:02:28AM
2,157 posts



As Ken says, we need pictures. Detailed pictures. Your description could apply to any one of a thousand builders. Did you look inside through the soundholes to see if there is a Maker's label?

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
09/07/14 11:07:06PM
1,336 posts



A photo would help Dan.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."


updated by @ken-longfield: 02/12/16 01:02:47AM
Bryant Caruthers
@bryant-caruthers
10/17/14 12:43:41AM
2 posts

"Looking for book/cd recommendations"


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

I just got "Playing the Mountain Dulcimer Made Easy" Volume II from Amazon today. It looks like a great book for beginners. I noticed that there are quite a few hymns in there like: "I Saw the Light", "Amazing Grace", and "In the Garden". I just browsed through it briefly before I came to work tonight. I hope this helps.
Lois Sprengnether Keel
@lois-sprengnether-keel
09/07/14 10:40:11PM
197 posts

"Looking for book/cd recommendations"


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Dulci-more by Bill Schilling sounds like a book you'd like. It's mainly DAA, loaded with folk and traditional songs in the Public Domain and that includes many hymns and a back section of Christmas music. 250 songs in the first section and then 45 in the Christmas section. I don't see a traditional ISBN so I'm not sure if I bought it from Elderly or had a local music store order it. The book seems to be self-produced by the author who gives this contact info: 984 Homewood Ave., Salem, OH 44460-3816; 330-332-4420 & there are 2 sets of websites and emails bill@billschilling.org with

http://www.billschilling.org and bill@dulcimore.org with http://www.dulcimore.org .

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
09/07/14 03:27:11PM
1,336 posts

"Looking for book/cd recommendations"


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Hi Wayne. There are many book/CD combinations available from Mel Bay. Cripple Creek dulcimer has many good songs for playing at the park. Check them out at Mel Bay's website: http://www.melbay.com/Products/CategoryCenter/D09/dulcimer-mountain.aspx

While I have been depleting my stock of Mel Bay books, if you see any you like, you can PM me to see if I have it still in stock and I can make you a good deal on the price. Or you can email me at: longfieldsfolkmusicshop at embarqmail dot com. I hope you find some things you like. Enjoy your dulcimer journey.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Rev. Wayne McAllister
@rev-wayne-mcallister
09/07/14 02:28:24PM
17 posts

"Looking for book/cd recommendations"


Dulcimer Resources:TABS/Books/websites/DVDs

Greetings from Louisville, KY.,

I am a beginner (One Year Now) player and having an AWESOME JOURNEY !!! I recently purchased a book/tab & cd "Stephen Foster Mountain Dulcimer" set (from Shelly Stevens). My wife (Sharon-autoharp) and ILOVE this resource. The playing along has REALLY helped me with strumming, timing etc. I am "Attempting" to find OTHER book/cd combinations (to play along with). We have actually used the Stephen Foster cd when we play at the park (several times) and passer-bys stop and listen. It's an awesome experience.

Any help (with recomendations) would be great. Would really like to find resources with (but NOT limited to) Hymns AND Christmas.

THANKS for your help

Pastor Wayne


updated by @rev-wayne-mcallister: 06/11/15 07:41:53AM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/06/14 02:49:48PM
2,157 posts



First question is "What kind of music?" Child Ballads? Celtic? American folk? Hymns & other secular music?

Paul Certo
@paul-certo
09/12/14 12:01:48AM
242 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Type this into your browser: Amazing Grace - chords

You should get several web sites with lyrics & chords. Some of the sites will let you change the key to whatever key you want, others won't. You may not find every song you want, but there are thousands of songs available in this way. Try doing what others suggested above, and if something sounds wrong, let your browser find it for you. Over time, your ears will get good at telling you when it's right. This will help you until then.

This page came up in my browser: http://www.bing.com/search?q=Amazing++Grace+-+chords&pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
09/08/14 08:57:30PM
231 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Yes, I think the lights are coming on for me. Thanks Guy!!!

Guy Babusek
@guy-babusek
09/08/14 05:29:11PM
96 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Patty, if the song is in a major key, you can usually find the basic chords fitting into the I, the IV and the V chords of the key. For instance, if you are in the key of D major, your song can usually fit into D (I), G (IV) and A (V) chords. For the most part your I chord will be your "home" chord, as it is called the Tonic. Your IV chord tends to want to move to the V chord, and your V chord tends to want to move you home to I again. This is just a general rule of thumb and there will always be exceptions to this rule. In your melody, find out the strong beats of each measure, perhaps beat one. See if you can find a chord that shares a tone of the melody on the first beat of each measure. For instance, if your melody has the note "A" on beat one of a particular measure, you will notice that this note is in both the I chord (D) and the V chord, (A). Try each of those chords and see which one seems to sound most appropriate to your ear. Then do the same with beat one of the next measure and so on. Keep changing the chords around until you like what it sounds like.

Once you have arranged your song using those 3 chords, you may actually be happy with it, but you can also try substituting some other chords here and there. For instance, for some of your I chords (D) you may want to try some vi chords (b minor), for some of your IV chords you may want to try substituting a ii chord (e minor) and for some of your V chords you may try substituting a iii chord (f# minor). You will have to keep trying and changing things until it sounds good to your ear... that's the way arranging is! Once you have your chords done to your liking you can also try to arrange for a second dulcimer, playing a harmony part.

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
09/08/14 08:24:21AM
231 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Thanks Robin, Rob, Mary and Dusty!!! I understand about sounding right to the ear. Many times when I've hit the wrong note on the melody I know that it's wrong right away. Good to know my ear still works okay. Mary I"m glad you are back. I missed you! Dusty, thank you so much!!! Learning those three chords and especially the chord shapes will help tremendously!!! I've learned a lot more about music since joining this site than I ever have. You all are great

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
09/08/14 12:52:58AM
1,851 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Patty, each in our own way, everyone here is saying the same thing, though it might be hard to see that at first.

Let's start with just the main three chords, I-IV-V, or in the key of D, the chords of D, G, and A. Each chord is made up of three notes: the 1st, 3rd, and 5th notes of the major scale.

D chord: D-F#-A

G chord: G-B-D

A chord: A-C#-E

Within those three chords are all the notes of the D major scale: D-E-F#-G-A-B-C#-D.

So the basic idea is that when you play a melody note, you want to play a chord that has that note in it. You may note that (unless you play the autoharp) you do not want to change chords for every single note, so in general, you look at the notes in each measure and see which chord is going to cover the majority of them. Sometimes you will have a choice, and then you will want to rely on your ear. And there are some other basic prinicples. In general, songs end on the tonic, or key tone, meaning in this case D. And very often they will go to the V chord (in this case A) before resolving to that D.

Before you try to figure out the chords for more complicated songs that include minor chords and diminished chords and all that fancy stuff, start out with 3-chord songs. In fact I would bet 70 percent of folk tunes only have three chords. As I've said elsewhere, I encourage people to sing or whistle or hum the melody of songs they know well while they just strum chords until their fingers are used to strumming chords and, in your case, you are getting the hang out of guessing what chord to play.

And you can also do this without looking at music and without thinking about all those notes I mention above. As you play a melody on your dulcimer, stop on an important melody note. Whatever chord you play is going to have that note in it. One reason for learning those chord shapes is because you will know right away what your options are. But you can also do this by trial and error. While you play a melody note, try to find another note on another string that sounds good with it. Do that on the third string, and you're all set! You don't even have to worry about what chord that is! I did that for a long while, not really worrying about what chords I was playing but just trying different chord shapes on different parts of the fretboard until I found one that worked. Eventually I learned the fretboard better and can name those chords, but who cares? The important thing is find chords that sound good.

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
09/04/14 08:05:56PM
420 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Patty, If you're looking at a traditional hymnal, the low bass note may well be the root of the chord. Sometimes I just experiment with chords and see how it sounds. If it sounds good, I keep them; if it doesn't, I find something else.

Robin Clark
@robin-clark
09/04/14 09:27:37AM
239 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Hi Patty,

I start with playing the tune againstthe open strings- and when it sounds a little 'harsh' I know a different harmony note or notes on the open stringscould be needed (chords). In the key of D those chords are going to be D, G, A or possibly Bm. So it is not difficult to try them all against that phrase of the melody and see what works!

Robin

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
09/04/14 09:12:03AM
231 posts

How does one know what chords to play?


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I saw an interesting discussion on chords in the Beginner's group. A big thank you to Dusty for giving us instruction! I have a question that maybe many have been asking. Sometimes I run across some music that I would like to play but I'm not sure how to figure out the chords. I can figure out the melody. I can read notes on the staff. It sometimes takes me a bit but I get there eventually . My question is how do you figure out the chords for each measure? Also, if you only have the melody how does one figure out the chords? Sorry if these are dumb questions.


updated by @patty-from-virginia: 10/06/16 11:24:46PM
Colleen Hailey
@colleen-hailey
09/04/14 02:58:09PM
67 posts



Pam, both are good. I'm learning chord style right now, but plan to learn noter style in a few years when I'm more proficient. I love to watch the noter videos with the feather strummers flying across the keys! In fact, you may want to watch some videos to see what overall sound appeals to you.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
09/04/14 08:48:13AM
2,157 posts



I think every player owes it to him/her self to spend six months of solid practice/playing in each of the 3 basic styles: Melody-Drone with fingers, Noter & Drone, and Chord-Melody; to see which style and sound appeals the most.

I like to teach people first to play Melody-Drone as it is IMHO the simplest, most intuitive way to pick out a tune and learn it.

Strumelia
@strumelia
09/03/14 10:51:26PM
2,404 posts



You can experiment with a couple of different ways of playing Pam, just remember you don't have to stick with any one particular way to play. So feel free to try various things! Also keep in mind that anything new will feel a bit awkward at first- that's natural. Time spent practicing and experimenting makes everything smoother little by little.

Dan Goad
@dan-goad
09/03/14 09:33:20PM
155 posts



Of course, use a noter. If you want to. If you don't want to use a noter, you can use the ones at the end of your arms. It's all a matter of personal choice. No hard and fast rules except for the one rule that says "have fun". Welcome to FOTMD and the wonderful world of the mountain dulcimer.


updated by @dan-goad: 02/16/16 10:34:18AM
Karen Keane
@karen-keane
09/07/14 09:38:54AM
11 posts



It was an awesome event with good friends and great music.
Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
09/06/14 08:37:28AM
231 posts



I'm looking forward to it Dana!

Dana R. McCall
@dana-r-mccall
09/06/14 03:58:41AM
168 posts



Patty My daughter videoed the whole concert but has to break it down into smaller parts so I can post it. I'll get her on the ball so I can post some. Also will post pics of the classes a friend of mine took pictures all day so there will be some.

John Keane
@john-keane
09/03/14 06:46:11AM
181 posts



John, it was a pleasure to meet you and get to visit a bit!

Dana R. McCall
@dana-r-mccall
09/02/14 09:37:58PM
168 posts



John WHY didn't you come up and tell me who you were I was so busy. Glad you had a good time.

Patty from Virginia
@patty-from-virginia
09/02/14 07:15:08PM
231 posts



I am jealous too. I hope someone will post some pictures and videos

Skip
@skip
09/03/14 12:44:57PM
389 posts



Eric;

You can buy individual strings, just ask around, music stores, pawn shops [sometimes], and internet. All you need is the size [and end style if you need the little brass insert which can be removed if needed for loop ends].

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
09/03/14 10:34:02AM
1,552 posts



Hi, Eric! Page two of this thread may be of interest to you regarding playing melody on the middle string: http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/group/themusictheorycorner/forum/topics/a-theory-about-keys?commentId=3745489%3AComment%3A681001&xg_source=activity&groupId=3745489%3AGroup%3A22445
updated by @robin-thompson: 02/12/16 03:17:26AM
Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
08/31/14 07:56:19PM
1,336 posts



John, it would be helpful to know specific songs you would like to play. Rocky Top and Foggy Mountain Breakdown are songs that you will not find in most dulcimer tab books. I play Rocky Top but in DAd tuning. There are several places on the Internet where one can find free dulcimer tab. Here is one place: http://everythingdulcimer.com/tab/index.php#R

Ken

The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

James Phillips
@james-phillips
09/01/14 10:42:39AM
87 posts

Ginger model


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Sandra, I hate to say this, but I am lost trying to figure out what it is you are wanting to know. If no one responds, call up McSpadden or email them your question and they will be able to answer it.

sandra hehl
@sandra-hehl
08/31/14 09:26:39AM
9 posts

Ginger model


Instruments- discuss specific features, luthiers, instrument problems & questions

Could someone giveme the overall measurement of this dulcimer? I know the fretboard measurement but am looking for the eight tip to tip
updated by @sandra-hehl: 06/08/16 09:24:05PM
Ivan Bradley
@ivan-bradley
09/09/14 12:22:55PM
31 posts



I just got notice my tab submission at Everything Dulcimer has been accepted. You'll find it under "M" as "My Clinch Mountain Home."

Hope this version works for you, Mary.

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