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Strumelia
@strumelia
09/02/20 08:26:02AM
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What's the deal with Aquavinas?


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NateBuildsToys:

I totally overlooked this message but it's brilliant. I have just added a rubber ducky to the 'moat'



poolparty

Nate
@nate
09/02/20 05:05:18AM
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Are there fretless dulcimers?


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WOW. That is seriously cool. That slide dulcimer has mountain banjo vibes as well as lap steel! Thanks for sharing I have a new rabbit hole to fall down!

Nate
@nate
09/02/20 04:54:16AM
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What's the deal with Aquavinas?


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Strumelia:

This is super cool.
I think it would be additionally fun to make a little folded paper origami boat to float in the 'canal' while playing it.

I totally overlooked this message but it's brilliant. I have just added a rubber ducky to the 'moat'
Nate
@nate
09/01/20 11:14:21PM
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Glass Bottle Resonator Dulcimer


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David Bennett
@david-bennett
08/31/20 08:59:59PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Robin Thompson:

David, I watched your movie on YT yesterday-- well done!  

Thanks Robin!

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/31/20 07:11:55PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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David, I watched your movie on YT yesterday-- well done!  

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
08/31/20 01:57:36PM
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Magnetic pickup vs Piezo vs Mic pointed at dulcimer


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Something useful might be found on the CBGitty website.  They have 3- and 4-pole pickups and flat humbuckers as well.

David Bennett
@david-bennett
08/31/20 01:48:58PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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A friend came and played with me for Play on the porch day

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
08/31/20 11:50:29AM
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Magnetic pickup vs Piezo vs Mic pointed at dulcimer


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I have two dulcimers with built in piezo under saddle pickups. I think both do a very good job of reproducing the acoustic sound of the instruments. I used stick-on piezo pickups for a long time, but they not only amplified the sound of the strings, but also amplified pick noise and any touching of the dulcimer. Using a microphone can be tricky in that you need to find the proper placement for it. One reason I stopped using a microphone is a sound tech at a festival I was playing at insisted that the mic be suspended over the dulcimer. Well, when the mic slipped out of the holder and fell on top of the dulcimer, that was it for me. I went to direct plug-in.

As to magnetic pickups, I have no experience with them on a dulcimer. I know Folkcraft is now offering them on some models. I am not aware of anyone selling magnetic pickups for dulcimers, but maybe you do.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
@strumelia
08/31/20 09:10:47AM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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That's right, it's more about the doing of it, not the recording of it.
You did good playing for your friend, Irene.  flower

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/31/20 08:36:35AM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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@irene, in my book, you did play for PMOTPD!  The fact that you don't have a good recording is just a little thing.  

Rob N Lackey
@rob-n-lackey
08/31/20 08:12:58AM
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Magnetic pickup vs Piezo vs Mic pointed at dulcimer


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Since no one has yet answered, I'll give my 2 centavos.  I use a Schatten Dualie stick-on piezo I've had for at least 20 years.  I bought it to amplify nylon string guitars to get that "Willie" sound.  That being said, I also run it through a Boss GE-7 equalizer which has a small preamp built in. Like with the guitar, I run it into whatever amp I have available.  I was given a Roland Microcube this year and I love it. I was using the Squire version of a Frontman 15, which for what it is, a cheap amp, isn't bad at all. For larger gigs I have a Fender Acoustisonic 150. I haven't yet used a magnetic pickup on a dulcimer, however I'm thinking about building a strictly electric instrument with both a piezo and a magnetic.  If you want some input on magnetic pickups, contact Jerry Rockwell.  He also has a unique mounting system he invented to move magnetic pickups from dulcimer to dulcimer.  Think the old Rickenbacker horseshoe in reverse.  

 

IRENE
@irene
08/30/20 11:59:42PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Been finishing up dulcimer #48 and at the end of the day, remembered.   Grabbed my dulcimer and headed into Nauvoo to play for my friend that is going into a big cancer operation and we're all praying that he makes it.   I called and said he could stay inside and I play on his porch.   So I started my phone to record it, and handed it to his wife that was outside to take a photo.   hrumph.   All I got on the phone was a 2 second record playing that I was on......repeat.   ha ha ha.   but my friend and his wife enjoyed me playing for them.  A perfect day here as the sun went down on the porch.   Maybe NEXT YEAR, I'll be able to get my whole act together and have someone else record it.  or at least take one photo.....I'm grateful I got to do this for my friend.   He requested old 60's songs and yeah, I know those too.  aloha, irene

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/30/20 05:27:02PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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@don-grundy I'm sorry you got rained out!  You'll get to play a make up game now.  :)

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
08/30/20 05:17:56PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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It rained most of the day and then we ran errands.
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/30/20 05:15:13PM
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@gordon-hardy I watched your video yesterday and enjoyed it!  

Worldwide PMOTPD had so many participants this year-- more than ever, I imagine.  Thanks to all who participated and to all who watched videos!

@don-grundy, did you get to play on your porch?  

Any friends want to tell about your adventures with music on PMOTPD?  (We had a tech problem of some kind and it took well over an hour to upload our little film to YT.)

Wally Venable
@wally-venable
08/30/20 12:04:35PM
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Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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Also note that many dulcimers are sold in craft shops (not music stores) to and by people who do not play them. Exotic woods, fancy grains, etc. can play an important role in that process.

Gordon Hardy
@gordon-hardy
08/30/20 11:49:24AM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Robin Thompson:


Lovely playing and singing! Thank you!
Nate
@nate
08/29/20 08:42:57PM
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Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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Skip:

Keep in mind being a 'luthier' can be a hobby or a business.  If a hobby, the luthier can do what (s)he wants and can afford, In business, money and customer satisfaction is king.




That's a great summary dulcimer




Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/29/20 03:59:25PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Gordon Hardy
@gordon-hardy
08/29/20 03:48:56PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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World Wide Play Music On The Porch Day!! Here is my submission

LisavB
@lisavb
08/29/20 12:43:38PM
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worldwide Play Music on the Porch Day


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Today is the day!!!  Excited.  Looks like it will be nice weather here, planning to take out the dulcimer and the acoustic guitar later today and have at it!!!

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
08/28/20 01:30:37PM
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Loaner Dulcimer


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Capitals and accent marks indicate the octaves.  The first letter of a tuning name is usually the bass string, then the Middle Drone, lastly the Melody string(s).  CGG/CGc and DAA/DAd are the most common tunings.

C D E F G A B c d e f g a b

The Bass string is usually C or D.  The Middle Drone is then G or A.  If you are tuning to CGG or DAA, the melody string(s) ae the same as the Middle Drone.  If you are tuning CGc or DAd, the Melody string(s) are an octave higher in pitch -- as indicated by the lower case letters c or d.  If you refer to the line of letters above, and count 8 letters to the right of C or D, you will find c or d.   

The system goes both higher and lower than shown here, with accent marks indicating other octaves.

traildad
@traildad
08/28/20 01:11:52PM
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I notice it has capital letters and lower case. What does that signify?
traildad
@traildad
08/28/20 11:48:26AM
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Loaner Dulcimer


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Ken Hulme:

Not necessarily "one size down".  The Strothers string gauge calculator shows that for a 29" VSL tuned DAA/DAd or CGG/CGc, you want .010 for the two Melody strings, a .012 for the Middle Drone, and a .020 wound string.
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I didn't know there was such a thing. Thanks.
Skip
@skip
08/28/20 11:22:09AM
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Keep in mind being a 'luthier' can be a hobby or a business.  If a hobby, the luthier can do what (s)he wants and can afford, In business, money and customer satisfaction is king.

Strumelia
@strumelia
08/28/20 11:08:32AM
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Loaner Dulcimer


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Ken's point is  I think: "one size down.. from what?"- because there are all kinds of different gauge sets for dulcimers that people use, and it also depends on the tunings you want to use.

All that said, a .022 for the wound bass and a .014 for the middle string would likely work fine too. But I'd hesitate to put .012 on the melody string and tune it up to high D on a 29" VSL... it would probably be ok, but it'd be pretty tight and therefore not as comfy to play.  .010s would be perfect for melody strings on a 29"er.  :)


updated by @strumelia: 08/28/20 11:11:10AM
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
08/28/20 10:20:33AM
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Are there fretless dulcimers?


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Randy is "da bomb" when it comes to fretless dulcimers.  I don' think you can call the sound "sweeter"... just different.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
08/28/20 10:17:14AM
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Loaner Dulcimer


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Not necessarily "one size down".  The Strothers string gauge calculator shows that for a 29" VSL tuned DAA/DAd or CGG/CGc, you want .010 for the two Melody strings, a .012 for the Middle Drone, and a .020 wound string.
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Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
08/28/20 10:13:36AM
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Are there fretless dulcimers?


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I'm partial to this tune from Randy :) 

traildad
@traildad
08/28/20 10:04:51AM
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Strumelia:

It looks totally great!  It has the 6.5 extra fret, btw. I think you'll find that comes in handy.  Don't put too heavy a set of strings on it, considering it's a 29" VSL (vibrating string length).  Maybe .010 for the melody course.


Thanks for the reminder. I remember seeing that vsl affects string choice. One size down on all the strings?
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/28/20 09:44:29AM
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It looks totally great!  It has the 6.5 extra fret, btw. I think you'll find that comes in handy.  Don't put too heavy a set of strings on it, considering it's a 29" VSL (vibrating string length).  Maybe .010 for the melody course.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
08/28/20 09:43:59AM
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Are there fretless dulcimers?


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I'll second Strumelia's post. Randy Adams is a national dulcimer treasure and I'm happy to own an instrument he made which uses toothpicks for frets.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
08/28/20 09:41:40AM
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Choice of Wood: Pertinent or Purism?


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People tend to forget that for a good long time McSpadden dulcimers were made from laminated wood. It was used primarily in the back and sides. The reason the David Schnaufer model was discontinued is that the laminated cherry wood that he specified for the back and sides was no longer available. An advantage of laminated wood is that it is more stable than solid wood. A disadvantage is that it can be heavier than the same amount of solid wood depending upon variations in thickness.

I sometimes build a dulcimer with a spruce or cedar top, not for reasons of sound, but because I like the contrast in the woods; a light top and and a dark bottom.

Over the years I've made some very nice sounding instruments for low quality wood and some real clunkers from very nice wood. 

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Strumelia
@strumelia
08/28/20 09:39:27AM
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Are there fretless dulcimers?


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Nate, check out our member @Randy-Adams.  He is well known for building and playing fretless dulcimers . Most of the dulcimers he's made are rectangular boxes, some from cigar boxes.

He has his own unique playing style.  Note that some of his videos include playing on fretted dulcimers too... but particularly check out the fretless videos- they're pretty amazing.

Matt Berg
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08/28/20 07:28:22AM
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Let me second what Ken said.  Building any musical instrument is the product of hundreds of little decisions made by luthier as the instrument is constructed.  An experienced builder makes many of these decision almost subconsciously. Many builders also understand that the buyer needs something to justify whatever price they paid, expensive wood = expensive instrument = quality instrument?

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